You realize most of this is hyped up crap, sure it will have power sure it will be great for games but computers will always be used as gaming machines. Consoles are extremely liner and the extra features they add on the xbox are like toys in a happy meal. Communication sucks on consoles and for gaming that?s a big thing. Outside websites, clan websites, IRC channels, mods, new patches, on and on. Gaming on a computer is a lot different then sitting in your living room and playing on your xbox.
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I still feel strange playing fps games without keyboard + mouse. Though I really liked Goldeneye for N64 back in the day...that was before I was formally introduced to Quake 3 though. I don't think consoles will ever take out the pc gaming market. Price/performance doesn't mean anything when a computer does 1000x the amount of things that a console can do. IMO it's like comparing two completely different things.
Leper Messiah
Banned
No. You don't get it. In the first 3 months or so, xbox 360 may approach the graphics of a P.C. then, guess what? a NEW generation of PC graphics comes out! And they still pwn the xbox 360. Your max resolution is like 1080i, which isn't even 800x600, and there's no AA or AF. Plus, the controller for the xbox is the suck. I will pwn the best xbox fps player (being most likely mediocore myself) with a keyboard and mouse. So why don't you STFU n00b and go troll another forum.
StrangerGuy
Diamond Member
1080i = 1920x1080 interlaced
Which is a lot better than the 800x600 you mentioned.
I can hardly believe you can "pwn" anyone when you cannot even spell "mediocre" correctly.
hahaha ahhh man well said. That made me laugh.
BUT think of the things Bill Gates and M$ could do... You know like on Terminator 3 theres a certain system or software that controls EVERY computer in the world... Sounds just about like M$ to me... You never know ( and no imn ot a geek that likes star trek or anything i just find this weird )
BUT think of the things Bill Gates and M$ could do... You know like on Terminator 3 theres a certain system or software that controls EVERY computer in the world... Sounds just about like M$ to me... You never know ( and no imn ot a geek that likes star trek or anything i just find this weird )
Leper Messiah
Banned
1080i = 540p. which isn't even 800x600. unless you like seeing things flicker by at 43hz or so, which i don't. Then again, my "PC" will do 1600x1200 at 75hz. And, last time I checked, there is no correlation between spelling ability, and FPS ability. Judging by CS players, in fact, there might even be a reverse correlation...
Aenslead
Golden Member
Is that a penguin on your nick? yeah... it is.
Well, that's been the wet-dream of most linux supporters... with the rise of consoles, Linux gets not much difference from what any Win can do. Its ok, though... I do agree with some points with you. I would rather buy a console than a $300usd video card.
To short a stock, you sell someone a stock that you dont actually own, hoping it will lose value, thus you profit (take a negative loss).
It's pretty common knowledge that the PC boom is dying down and international deals will only stretch it so far. Soon, inevitably, companies who primarily manufacture home pc components will have to shift into a dividend business model rather than one of expansion. Dividends are a share of the companies profits paid out to stockholders. I've seen Intel put out a few coin dividends here and there, I don't remember ever seeing AMD pay dividends.
Anyway, Im sure you can see where I'm going with this. It's kind of a thinking man's "Yo momma so stupid..." joke.
Annual Report 2004
While it's still a truckload of money to fill Uncle Bills Money bin, when you break down the cost of business you can see it's nowhere near the total revenues they actually collect. Such is the cost of doing business, and why it takes money to make money so to speak.
It's not accurate. Just messin around. Personally, I doubt the two technologies will ever cross (PC and console) simply because to own and use extreme PC hardware, some level of PC know-how will be required. As for consoles, they are made to require the least amount of technical knowledge - they're made for kids (mainly)! Then there'll be the modders. Enthusiasts love to open up their PCs and modd, upgrade, change components. I doubt MS or Sony want anyone fiddling around the insides of their consoles. Besides, I dont think ATI or nVidia would want the two technologies to cross, coz that would mean they'd loose a lucrative market - the PC enthusiasts market. Then there's pple like me who just dont understand how one can play an FPS without a keyboard and mouse. I've tried it.... I just cant! I mean, I have a gamepad which I use for NBA Live and POP, but to use it for FarCry....??? Naahhh. But that's just me.
WdnUlik2no
Member
As good as the XBOX 360 looks, it will not replace my PC. A PC will always be more versatile than a console. Besides I already have the original XBOX and I am still quite happy with it, so there is no need for me to rush out and get the 360 this year or anytime soon for that matter. I may pick it up later when the price comes down. For me rushing to buy it now for $500 would be foolish.
Ok, let me clarify this one more time. Some of you are still not getting it. Also, PS3 looks like they have the best rig coming out.
Xbox360 or PS3 = 500
30 inch tv = 500
games = 50each
PC with comparable hardware: 5000
Games = 50
PC that can do todays special, and future tasks(except for the very few that use it to make movies, graphic design, nuclear simulations etc, but then they should be using another type of setup) = $1000 at most, which include 19 inch lcd monitor.
so 2000 for a next gen console and a pc that can do reg pc tasks and more for the rest of our lives
or 5000 for a gaming rig that hopefully can equal the performance. (havent seen any games come out for todays top hardware even today on the PC)
So yeah, all these new chips by AMD and Intel are officially useless.
The future will be cheap pc or laptops and gaming consoles.
'nuff said
Xbox360 or PS3 = 500
30 inch tv = 500
games = 50each
PC with comparable hardware: 5000
Games = 50
PC that can do todays special, and future tasks(except for the very few that use it to make movies, graphic design, nuclear simulations etc, but then they should be using another type of setup) = $1000 at most, which include 19 inch lcd monitor.
so 2000 for a next gen console and a pc that can do reg pc tasks and more for the rest of our lives
or 5000 for a gaming rig that hopefully can equal the performance. (havent seen any games come out for todays top hardware even today on the PC)
So yeah, all these new chips by AMD and Intel are officially useless.
The future will be cheap pc or laptops and gaming consoles.
'nuff said
otispunkmeyer
Lifer
yeah these things wont replace PC's they'll simply do as they've always done and reside along side PC's as means to complete and round ones media and gaming experience.
ill still play CS:S and UT2K4 etc on pc, then ill go have a blat on GT4 (GT5 😀) later on, they wont replace, they will co-exist
though if they did give PS3 and keyboard and mouse, and an internet browser, and a media player and things like that, then it would be good, but then they'd need a more complicated OS and the over head that comes with it. and it probably wouldnt be a console anymore
BlingBlingArsch
Golden Member
Pc ownz Console, as long as console is so imcompatible to other devices and interests.
The Boston Dangler
Lifer
I don't understand how people can say such a foolish thing. Microsoft demo'ed 0 (ZERO) working XBOX's, ATI had a partial system running way below spec speed.
Please, go to your consoles, and stay there.
Chode Messiah
Golden Member
by the time the consoles are out, the new comp hardware will have been out for several months. We'll have the dual-core amds and the g70/r520 cards out, and the consoles won't look as hot as they do now. I'm gonna get a PS3, but it doesn't mean that it is better than my desktop. I think my comp will own a nextgen console. (4000+(SD)@2.9ghz,audigy 4 pro,6800u's @540/1280,raptor satas,etc.) Also, I'll have that physics card when it comes out. I might even upgrade to g70s, and the 6800u's will go in new rigs on nf4 ultra mobos. Plus, I'm gonna make a new rig based on the m2 socket when it comes out.
IBM5100 or the linux watch > Honeywell Kitchen Computer(w/ cutting board) > IBM thinkpad 365 >
Packard Bell Statesman>Origninal NES > My Computer > next gen consoles> apple products >fesces
IBM5100 or the linux watch > Honeywell Kitchen Computer(w/ cutting board) > IBM thinkpad 365 >
Packard Bell Statesman>Origninal NES > My Computer > next gen consoles> apple products >fesces
Games on the PC can cost $100, once people are forced to see the true worth of PC's.
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EA Sports worked out a deal with Nascar, and are now the only company that can produce a Nascar racing sim for something like 5 years. Their first effort bombed royally with Nascar SimRacing 2005. It is not a SIM, but is instead an Arcade Game, like Nascar Thunder. So Sim racers had to stick with the old standard, Nascar Racing 2003, which you could have bought 2 years ago for $9 (shipped free, Amazon). It is now going for upwards of $100. EA Sports has stated they will not produce a a Racing Sim for the consoles because PC's are the only thing that can properly support a "Sim". Console racing games will be marketed as Arcade "games".
Every other Saturday we have 7 to 10 of us (in the same room) connect our PC's for 8 hours of LAN SIM racing. Try that with a console. And, I can build the PC powerful enough to run this SIM for just under $200. It's funny that some of the guys who LAN race with us, also get together on the open Saturdays to play with their consoles together. If they had to give up a Saturday, it would be the console multiplayer gaming, as it can't touch a PC LAN. (BTW, our age group ranges from 25 to 50, with most of us in the 30's and 40's. The console guys are the under 29 portion). Other points to note are that PC gamers use a No-CD patch, which allows them to safely store their expensive game away after initial installation. Modified exe files can add more and more features to PC games. Heck, many games made for PC's allow you to purchase one game, and share that same one game with many players running on your LAN. No need to 5 to each spend $50 a pop.
Every PC and Console gamer knows EA as a company that will be selling us software.
Here is what they say about Console Vs PC users (comparing racing):
James Hawkins: One of the most important lessons learned from our previous releases is that both PC and console gamers are unique. PC gamers are especially simulation and reality oriented. PC gamers want a deep, complex, and realistic driving model, attention to detail / authenticity, the ability for 43 players to race simultaneously online, and a whole lot more.
While the above applies to racing, it can also be applied to anything PC gamers do. PC users demand more than Console users with such things as reality oriented, deep, complex and realistic models, attention to detail / authenticity, and huge groups of painless multiplayer. So even the software makers think PC's have the edge in these areas. They do make some good Girly-Man racing games for consoles though, that do look real pretty, (such as the puke NFSU2, also available for PC).
XBox 360 doesn't offer anything. PS3 does have some appeal, but still will end up being way overpriced by the time you are done spending your wad on actually doing anything fun with it. (remember, you must also have a HDTV to enjoy the better graphis shown in the demo's). In any event, those same graphic cut scenes you are now seeing with XBox 360 and PS3 will be at least as good on next years PC's. Besides, we already have screens capable of High-Def graphics, which is something most of the 16 to 25 year old console target market does not yet have (HDTV's).
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