Not all Cops are bad

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iGas

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A cop's job description includes helping elderly folks deposit checks into their bank accounts and help them pay bills?

BTW you're pretty much like all of the other naysayers. No matter what news reports might be published here (cop chops off his arm to save a little baby from drowning), you people will still claim he's doing it for the money/fame :rolleyes:
How many fire fighters that risks their lives to save people and they doesn't treat people like garbage when compare to the cops?

In fact many fire fighters in the surrounding area around here are un paid volunteers that risks their lives to help people. I can't say the same thing for cops that abuses their authority.
 

moshquerade

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There are definitely more good than bad in that profession. It's just we hear about the bad more readily.
 
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:thumbsup:

Nice to see a thread like this for a change. Granted, there are unfortunately a number of police officers that do things that make me ashamed, but not all officers are bad. Some of them ARE trying to do some good, whether the masses on ATOT choose to believe that or not.

Many of the masses on ATOT just hate cops because they get tickets because thye suck at driving.
 

dabuddha

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Yes, to serve and protect that is what they are paid for.

A RN nurse job description is that they help diagnostic & record patient condition, and drugs administration, but how many times do you see that they step out of their way to physically help a patient and sometimes clean up after them (house keeper & cleaner job)?

They are paid to work with the public, and that is what my tax dollar are for. Not abusing the power that is entrusted in them.

As for helping the populous. I'm sure that most people including myself would do exactly the same thing as those cops with out any momentary gains.

PS. I have help in many soup kitchens and I haven't met one cop that ever donate their time off to help people, and the only time they put in for charities are for money or publicity stunts.

To serve and protect is a little vague. Where exactly in their exact job description does it say they have to help elderly folks deposit their welfare checks, etc?
 

RadiclDreamer

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There are definitely more good than bad in that profession. It's just we hear about the bad more readily.

MY issue with the bad ones is that the good ones who should be their superiors dont do more to punish them when they get caught doing something stupid. Too much "protect each other no matter what" kinda stuff going on.

If they are wrong, they are wrong and should be punished and if its bad enough terminated, not "suspended with pay" for a while until it blows over.
 

RadiclDreamer

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To serve and protect is a little vague. Where exactly in their exact job description does it say they have to help elderly folks deposit their welfare checks, etc?

I'm a tax payer and I approve of them helping people when its called for. They are PUBLIC SERVENTS after all.
 

dabuddha

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I'm a tax payer and I approve of them helping people when its called for. They are PUBLIC SERVENTS after all.

Oh I'm definitely all for them helping folks as well. I just don't think it's in their job description so when they do these small things, I feel they should be commended and not mocked.
 

RadiclDreamer

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Oh I'm definitely all for them helping folks as well. I just don't think it's in their job description so when they do these small things, I feel they should be commended and not mocked.

Agreed somewhat, depends on your interpretation of "serve"
 

Bateluer

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In all my dealings with police, I've never had an issue with them. They've always been professionals. Heck, closest thing I can say bad was about the Police Department in Grand Rapids Michigan, there wasn't adequate parking near the building when I needed to dispute a police report filed against me by an idiot drive.
 

FallenHero

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Yes, to serve and protect that is what they are paid for.

A RN nurse job description is that they help diagnostic & record patient condition, and drugs administration, but how many times do you see that they step out of their way to physically help a patient and sometimes clean up after them (house keeper & cleaner job)?

They are paid to work with the public, and that is what my tax dollar are for. Not abusing the power that is entrusted in them.

As for helping the populous. I'm sure that most people including myself would do exactly the same thing as those cops with out any momentary gains.

PS. I have help in many soup kitchens and I haven't met one cop that ever donate their time off to help people, and the only time they put in for charities are for money or publicity stunts.

If that were true, police services would not be needed. But you are welcome to continue to live in your fantasy land there.
 

ahenkel

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I don't have a problem with cops either. I do have a problem with the mentality that they are infallible and the associated we'll stand behind our brother officer no matter what. "Oh officer dick killed and ate a jewish baby.. well he was hungry what do you expect him to starve"
 

BoomerD

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Okay, so 2 cops do ONE good deed BIG DEAL, now what about the 100,000 other sheethead cops who will be harassing working-class people on their way home with fines and tickets and maybe even tazerings?

Flying Pig? Izzat you?
 

PimpJuice

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Okay, so 2 cops do ONE good deed BIG DEAL, now what about the 100,000 other sheethead cops who will be harassing working-class people on their way home with fines and tickets and maybe even tazerings?

I'd like to personally welcome ATOTs newest Troll although I'd assume its just a new account cause your other one was banned.
 

AMDZen

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This is canada, people are all around more nice in canada, it stands to reason that the cops would be too.
 

tcsenter

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A RN nurse job description is that they help diagnostic & record patient condition, and drugs administration, but how many times do you see that they step out of their way to physically help a patient and sometimes clean up after them (house keeper & cleaner job)?
Not many. Most nurses put in their shift and go home to their family, like cops do.
 

iGas

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If that were true, police services would not be needed. But you are welcome to continue to live in your fantasy land there.
I'm not sure what land you live in but most if not all countries donot require to be police states, and not everyone are conspiracist tinfoil hat wearer that are arms to the teeth and have fallout bunkers in their back yard.

I'm not saying that we don't need the police. What I'm trying to convey is that we need humanize laws abiding cops and totalitarian cops shouldn't be protected by their badge.

IMHO, it would be more productive if the cops view the public as law abiding citizens instead of viewing the public as potential criminals.

The odd thing is we have way too many bad incidents with the police abusing their authority these days, therefore we go out of our way to praise them when they do their job.

PS. The OP news article praising the cops for doing their job is a PR stunt by the Victoria police force (a little cop told me this last summer), because their relationship with the public is at an all time low due to many incidents that the cops abuses their authority in this town in the last couple of years.

It started with this incident: B.C. councillor and sons face murder charge (they were found not guilty for for showing up to the place with a purpose and repeatedly beaten a man to death)

The RCMP (police) didn't arrest perps (father & 2 sons: drugs related) right away or help the beaten man (he died soon after, broken neck at 3 places and others complications) that was dumped by the perps (sons) in the RCMP parking lot, because their father is a friend of the RCMP chief. And, the Times Colonist painted the perps as law abiding citizens and are victims, while the Vancouver Sun had a different story to tell.
 
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Cops should not be managed by other older cops-turned-police chiefs, there has to be a civilian watchdog group like the one we have here in Toronto, the Police Services Board, made-up of civilians and who rain down hard on cops when they start acting like King Kong. They are here to Serve and Protect not to harass and abuse their power. The moment a cop starts acting superior to the citizens that pay his wages he should be disciplined, you won't see this blatant ego abuse with other civil servants. Cops are just that, civil servants, and they should be under the supervision of a civilian disciplinary watchgroup.
 

tcsenter

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Cops are just that, civil servants, and they should be under the supervision of a civilian disciplinary watchgroup.
They are in almost any decent sized city with more than 100K population (e.g. civilian advisory boards), and fail of that, the attorney general of the state, and fail of that, the US Department of Justice.
 

iGas

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They are in almost any decent sized city with more than 100K population (e.g. civilian advisory boards), and fail of that, the attorney general of the state, and fail of that, the US Department of Justice.
Not in BC. Cops are over sees by other cops. And, another cop shop in a different town gets to do a review of the cop shop that is being investigated. For instant Vancouver cop shop review Victoria cop shop, or an Alberta/Saskatchewan cop shop review Vancouver BC cop shop.