Norton Systemworks 2003 $9.00 + Free S&H

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faZZter

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Can you install this on multiple computers like 2002? (with one disc)

I guess I'm asking if you have to register it and stuff to make it work?
 

papaschtroumpf

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Originally posted by: Packerbacker
You can uninstall NSW 2003 and install a new NSW 2003 to get another 1 yr subscription for NAV. Be sure to delete all entries referring to Norton or Symantec in the registry and it will work!! I just did it yesterday!!

I can't seem to get this working? ? ? ?
you wouldn't happen to have a list of all that needs to be deleted by any chance?
 

Sophia

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Originally posted by: papaschtroumpf
Originally posted by: Packerbacker
You can uninstall NSW 2003 and install a new NSW 2003 to get another 1 yr subscription for NAV. Be sure to delete all entries referring to Norton or Symantec in the registry and it will work!! I just did it yesterday!!

I can't seem to get this working? ? ? ?
you wouldn't happen to have a list of all that needs to be deleted by any chance?

Straight from the horse's mouth. (Although even after doing all that I still didn't have any luck and was finally told to call and have customer service extend the dates for a year (1-800-441-7234)).

Please follow the procedure to uninstall and re-install Norton SystemWorks (NSW), which are mentioned below:

1. Uninstall manually NSW.
2. Uninstall LiveUpdate.
3. Uninstall LiveReg.
4. Search and delete the subscription files.
5. Prepare your computer before installing NSW.
6. Clean boot for Windows.
7. Re-Install NSW.

1. Uninstall manually NSW.
For instructions on how to manually uninstall NSW, please refer to the document in the link provided below:
NOTE: If you have an OEM version then please contact your vendor before uninstalling.

Title: 'How to uninstall Norton SystemWorks 2002, 2003, or 2004'
Document ID: 2001072709142207
> Web URL: http://service1.symantec.com/Support/nsw.nsf/docid/2001072709142207

2. Uninstall LiveUpdate.
For instructions, please click on the following link:

Title: 'Removing LiveUpdate after Add/Remove Programs does not work and no other Symantec products are installed'
Document ID: 1999092114074613
> Web URL: http://service1.symantec.com/Support/sharedtech.nsf/docid/1999092114074613

3. Uninstall LiveReg.
For instructions, please follow the steps mentioned below:
1. Click Start, point to Settings, and click Control Panel. The Control Panel appears.
2. Double-click Add/Remove Programs. The Add/Remove Program Properties window appears.
3. Scroll through the list of installed applications and select LiveReg.
4. Click Add/Remove. LiveReg will be uninstalled.

4. Search and delete the subscription files.
First, please configure Windows to show all files:
1. Double-click the My Computer icon on your Desktop.
2. Click the Tools menu in the top toolbar and then click Folder Options.
3. Click the View tab.
4. Uncheck "Hide file extensions for known file types."
5. Under the "Hidden files" folder, click "Show hidden files and folders."
6. Click Apply, and then click OK.

4b. Now, search for and delete all Symantec folders.
1. Click Start, Search, and then select "Files or Folders".
2. "Look in" is set to "All drives" or to (C).
3. Make sure that "Search subfolders" is checked. (You may have to click the "Advanced Options" arrow to display this.)
4. Click All files and folders.
5. In the "All or part of the file name box" type--or copy and paste--the following text: Catalog.LiveSubscribe
6. Click Search.
7. Delete all files that are found by the search.
8. Please repeat the search for MyProfile.UserProfile and delete all files that are found.

5. Prepare your computer before installing NSW.
After uninstalling, you have to prepare your system for installation of NSW. You have to ensure that your computer meets
the minimum system requirements for a smooth and uneventful installation. For instructions on how to prepare your system,
please refer to the article in the link provided below:

Title: 'How to prepare your computer before installing Norton SystemWorks'
Document ID: 2000033109195107
>Web URL: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nsw.nsf/docid/2000033109195107

6. Clean boot for Windows.
Please perform a clean boot on Windows. A clean boot is a restart of Windows with no applications running and with as few
extra drivers loading as possible.

To perform a clean boot of Windows XP, refer to the following document from our Online Knowledge Base that has instructions
you need to follow:

Title: 'Configuring Windows XP to clean boot'
Document ID: 2001053014402339]
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001053014402339

7. Re-Install NSW.
Now you can re-install NSW. For instructions, please refer to the document in the link provided below:

Title: 'Installing Norton SystemWorks? 2002, 2003, and 2004'
Document ID: 2001072514174307
> Web URL: http://service1.symantec.com/support/nsw.nsf/docid/2001072514174307
 

Richard98

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Got mine in the mail a couple of days ago. Bought it primarily for Ghost since I recently got NAV 04 FAR. I did like the 03 version of Ghost better than the 02 version. With the 03 version, you set up the paramaters for the backup within Windows, reboot the machine and it automatically completes the backup and reloads windows when the backup is complete.
 

Blain

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The GoBack 3 on SW 2003 has saved me several service calls on a system I built for a lady.
She loves it and so do I for the time it's saved me.
Every full system I build will have SW 2003 utilities and GoBack. For $9, you can't beat it! ;)

Since SW 2004 has to be "activated", I'll stick with the 2003 version. There's not much difference anyway.
 

jst0ney

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Originally posted by: MadCityGuy
<blockquote>Quote
Originally posted by: John P.
<blockquote>Quote
I already have Norton Systemworks 2003 installed and it's starting to count down my renewal time. If I buy a new copy of Systemworks 2003 and install it on my PC will it give me another year of updates? Any hints to make this work (and I really don't want to reformat my drive and start over!)

Just uninstall the old Systemworks 2003 before you install from the new disk. I had NAV 2003 from a prior installation and Systemworks 2003 would not update my subscription. However, after I uninstalled NAV2003 it updated the subscription date just fine.[/quote]

No dice. I uninstalled NSW2003 from my XP Pro system, installed a new copy, and before registering it showed the end date. I then Gobacked to before I uninstalled the software, uninstalled it again, removed every directory I could find that looked like Norton or Symantec, then went through the registry and deleted everything I could find that had Norton or Symantec in it. (Except for a few registry entries that are compatibility entries and Regedit won't allow me to remove). I then installed new NSW2003 and again, old date. I needed to go on so I connected, paid the $19.99+tax (yup, it's $19.99, not $9.99), downloaded all the updates, ran the scans, etc.

Finally, when I was done, I hit my forehead with my palm. I should have exported the registry immediately before paying and updating the date, then exported the registry immediately afterward to see what changed. I'm sure it's in there someplace.

Anyway, a word to the wise - if you have Norton Systemworks 2003 already installed and it's expiring, buying a new copy for $7 isn't the bargain it seems.

Oh, and if someone else foolishly does what I did, would you compare the registry immediatly before and after paying for a year's service? I have other PCs coming due in the next month.[/quote]


regedit is your friend and Nortons enemy
 

zettler

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Hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone who can find a 2004 SystemWorks Pro deal...

For the last three years, I have been able to buy the 2004 OEM Norton SystemWorks software for under $15 delivered but can't seem to find one now.
 

thaugen

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>>I got in on this same deal from them sometime last year. No problems at all for me. No billing issues, software was legit, and it showed up within a couple days. Ymmv.<<

Ditto.

FWIW, a few months ago I ordered other software from them that they said was returned disk / no manual, paid $30 (about a fifth of retail ) and got the disk shortly thereafter. Unfortunately the disk was cracked and wouldn't install, so I emailed them I wanted to send it back for replacement, not refund. After my fifth email in which I said legal action would be next, they finally responded saying to send it back. After about a week they said they didn't have another copy and would refund instead. I just got the refund.

Someone in a prior thread said they were not good on communications. I agree, but next year I'll probably buy NSW 2004 from them.
 

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Originally posted by: zettler
Hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone who can find a 2004 SystemWorks Pro deal...

For the last three years, I have been able to buy the 2004 OEM Norton SystemWorks software for under $15 delivered but can't seem to find one now.

you were able to buy Norton SystemWorks 2004 for the last 3 yrs?? doesn't seem likely.
 

ttown

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Does norton personal firewall allow limiting outbound connections by application BY SITE ??
Every advertisement I've seen does not indicate that it does -- just outbound by app. I want _by site_.


I know personal-firewall is not part of systemworks, but I thought most people reading this would likely have norton products.
I use a package called "AtGuard" (the best firewall/ad+cookie+refers blocker ever) on my win98 machine that does the above, but it doesn't work on XP. AtGuard was bought by norton a few years ago from WRQ. What I want is "AtGuard" (or equiv) on WinXP.

You listening, Norton? "AtGuard" was perfect -- simple, small, fast, intuitive -- nothing extra thrown in just because hard-drive space and memory are cheap.
 

zettler

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: zettler
Hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone who can find a 2004 SystemWorks Pro deal...

For the last three years, I have been able to buy the 2004 OEM Norton SystemWorks software for under $15 delivered but can't seem to find one now.

you were able to buy Norton SystemWorks 2004 for the last 3 yrs?? doesn't seem likely.


Man, I have been making a lot of typos lately.

What I MEANT to say, I have been able to "purchase that particular year's Norton SystemWorks Pro OEM" for less than $15....

Am I forgiven?
 

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Originally posted by: zettler
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: zettler
Hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone who can find a 2004 SystemWorks Pro deal...

For the last three years, I have been able to buy the 2004 OEM Norton SystemWorks software for under $15 delivered but can't seem to find one now.

you were able to buy Norton SystemWorks 2004 for the last 3 yrs?? doesn't seem likely.


Man, I have been making a lot of typos lately.

What I MEANT to say, I have been able to "purchase that particular year's Norton SystemWorks Pro OEM" for less than $15....

Am I forgiven?

only God can forgive my son.

i'm not sure that norton is gonna allow this type of OEM sales anymore. :( bad thing because i bought a lot of these for clients over the last 2 years.
 

Kaido

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Thought I'd share my experience with Ghost...I posted this on my college hardware class's bulletin board last semester. My system at the time was a 1.4ghz Athlon Thunderbird, 2x512mb pc133, and a 5400rpm 40gb maxtor hard drive.

I finally had a chance to play with Norton Ghost
(thanks, Microsoft BSOD :p). I thought I'd share what I
learned.

A week or so ago my computer (running Windows XP Pro)
started having some serious errors. It had been awhile
since I had installed Windows, so I decided to reinstall
to have a fresh, clean system. I had purchased Norton
Systemworks 2003 Professional awhile back, and it came
with a program called Norton Ghost, which lets you
backup your computer in a neat way. Basically, it takes
a snapshot of your hard drive, called an "image", and
lets you back that image up to CD, DVD, or a file. You
can then use that image later to reinstall the system
exactly as you had it at the time you backed it
up.

I decided to make a couple images. The first image I
made was a basic Windows XP install. I installed the
OS, ran disk clean and defrag, installed Norton Ghost,
and set it do make an image disc for me. Ghost will
automatically make a bootable CD or DVD for you. I
decided to use a DVDr, since the XP install was pretty
big. Even if the image is bigger than 700 megs or so,
you can use CDr discs, because Ghost will let you span
multiple discs.

The image and boot info took up about 800 megs on the
DVDr. I decided to give the disc a try...I let Windows
98 format the hard drive halfway so it was rendered
useless. Then I inserted the Norton DVD and let it do
its thing. 20 minutes later I had the system installed
exactly as I had had it before. Pretty nice!

Next I decided to do a "perfect system" DVD. I
installed Windows XP, downloaded service pack 1a and all
the updates, downloaded drivers, updated Quicktime,
Windows Media Player, DirectX, installed Flash,
Shockwave, etc. I also installed some basic utility
software such as Nero, Spybot, and Ad-Aware. Then I set
the settings the way I like them in Windows, ran a disk
cleanup, defragged, and installed Ghost. I made a
bootable DVD of this "perfect system" and tried it out.
It took approximately one hour to install completely
(from scratch - Ghost will let you overwrite whatever is
on the hard drive, whether it's blank or has a corrupted
Windows installation on it).

So, anytime I have a serious problem with my computer,
all I have to do is pop in the DVD and in an hour I have
a perfect system! I don't have to spend an entire day
installing and configuring Windows, downloading and
installing updates, and trying to find drivers for my
hardware.

In addition, I bought a 50-pack of CDr discs to do
regular backups of my data...so now, anytime I have a
problem, I can get my system back up and running in
about an hour, pop in a CDr with the files I need, and
be back to work like nothing happened. I think this is
a great solution for when Windows has problems or you
get a virus.


Hardware/software:

I found a place through the Anandtech.com Hot Deals
forum that sells Norton Systemworks 2003 Pro (OEM
edition - it just comes in a sleeve with the serial
number, which lets you get a 1-year subscription) for
$9.00 with free shipping. I bought it mainly for Ghost,
but Systemworks includes other stuff like antivirus
software, which I've found to work pretty well. Here's
the URL:

Norton Systemworks 2003 Pro

CD burners are going for pretty cheap nowadays. You can
pick up a fast burner from newegg for $37.00 shipped
(free t-shirt, too!):

Lite-On Black 52X32X52 CD-RW Drive

I got the 50-pack of CDr discs at a local Staples for
$10 or $15. So, for about $50, you can have a pretty
nice backup system.

I got my DVD burner (Lite-On 401s) at Wal-Mart for $99
last December, and the price has probably dropped since
then. Every DVD burner that I know of also has a
built-in CD burner. DVDr discs let you hold about six
times as much data as a CDr disc, which is pretty nice
if you're using Ghost to backup your system...you will
only have to use one DVDr if you have a basic install.

There's also a great PDF with more information about
using Ghost called the "Radified Guide to Norton Ghost",
available at:

Guide

Hope that helps!
 

zettler

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Kaido,

I wish I had done that a LOOONNNGGG time ago.

My daughter's PC is totally screwed up. It has/had SystemWorks Pro OEM 2003 and some spyware got on it and bewteen it and me trying to "fix" it, the PC is totally screwed up now. Now I cannot get Norton off. AND, I can't install it due to remnants. And Windows XP is REALLY screwed up now. Until I deleted MS Money 2003, every time I clicked on something, it tried to install it - again, and again, and again!

So, now, I am going to wipe it clean and rebuild it. A process I do not relish or enjoy. All Hackers, spyware doofuses, and the like ought to get neutered and placed in a prison chain gang in Alabama or Mississippi for the rest of their male life!

I was worried that Norton wasn't going to release it 2004, as I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Plus, hadn't I read it somewhere that there were real issues with 2004 SystemWorks Pro???
 

wakemaker

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Staples had NS 2004 Pro, 5-16 thru 5-22, for $69 with $40 Staples rebate and Norton $30 upgrade.

So it's been available for almost nothing, recently.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: zettler
Kaido,

I wish I had done that a LOOONNNGGG time ago.

My daughter's PC is totally screwed up. It has/had SystemWorks Pro OEM 2003 and some spyware got on it and bewteen it and me trying to "fix" it, the PC is totally screwed up now. Now I cannot get Norton off. AND, I can't install it due to remnants. And Windows XP is REALLY screwed up now. Until I deleted MS Money 2003, every time I clicked on something, it tried to install it - again, and again, and again!

So, now, I am going to wipe it clean and rebuild it. A process I do not relish or enjoy. All Hackers, spyware doofuses, and the like ought to get neutered and placed in a prison chain gang in Alabama or Mississippi for the rest of their male life!

I was worried that Norton wasn't going to release it 2004, as I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Plus, hadn't I read it somewhere that there were real issues with 2004 SystemWorks Pro???

Yeah...I've read that you can only install 2004 on one or two computers, that it isn't as good, and that it doesn't come with Norton Ghost. I've been happy with the 2003 edition of Systemworks (which doesn't have those problems ;)). Just make sure to get a good firewall!

Here's what I do with a new system:
1. Install Windows
2. Install drivers
3. Download updates
4. Install Ghost (only Ghost...don't install all of Systemworks 2003 just yet)
5. Run Disk Cleanup and Defrag
6. Make a Ghost image of the drive (onto CD or DVD)

Now that you have your basic system copy, go ahead and install the rest of Systemworks 2003. The Antivirus works on a 1-year subscription status, and if you install it before you ghost your drive and then reinstall like a year later, your subscription will be out of date. If you reinstall with only Ghost on the drive, then install Systemworks, it creates a new subscription every time. It's a lot less of a headache to install it once than to have to uninstall and then reinstall.

If you have the inclination, after step #3 go ahead and install your favorite programs...it will make the Ghost image bigger, but you won't have to spend time installing stuff like Microsoft Word or Counter-Strike after you reinstall.

Here's my Weekly Checklist:
1. Update and run SpyBOT
2. Update and run AdAware
3. Update Windows (optional...sometimes updates screw up your computer, lol)
4. Update Systemworks (using the Liveupdate feature)
5. Clean out Internet stuff (clear history, delete cookies, delete files)
6. Run Disk Cleanup
7. Run Disk Defrag

If you do these things, you'll have a smooth-operating, ad-ware free machine, for the most part. I like to reinstall Windows at least once, if not twice a year. Windows tends to get bloated after time...reinstalling things make it run lots faster. Using Ghost speeds up the process and makes it near-painless.

Here's a post-Ghost-install checklist:
1. Install Norton Systemworks 2003 (or other Antivirus software)
2. Install a firewall (ZoneAlarm, Norton Firewall, etc.)
3. Download Windows updates
4. Install whatever programs you want
5. Copy your personal files to the hard drive

Yeah, it's no fun sitting and doing all this stuff, but once you've made a perfect Ghost backup cd/dvd, it'll save you some headaches...you always know there's a perfect edition of your computer sitting 20 minutes away :)

Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers,
Kaido