Northeast Loses 40% of House Seats

[xBiffx]

The only thing I brought up was all the basic analytic failures that the OP had in it. I'm sorry if that made you mad.

I'm not mad. You are just a condescending douche bag. That doesn't make me angry either. After all, that's your problem.

 

[cbrunny]

Just split already. The northeast can come join Canada. We'll have raging pop-and-chip parties while simultaneously treating everyone's health ailments.

The South can then cheer about rich people not paying tax and then complain about crumbling infrastructure.

 

[bshole]

I feel pretty confident that no matter the analysis, if it doesn't fit your conclusion it won't matter. I really don't care what you think the reasons are. But when several of the states gaining seats in the article are no income tax states and many others are lower income tax states, ignore taxes as the likely reason is retarded. The fact remains, people are pouring out of the northeast and it will change the makeup and therefore politics of Congress.

The people flowing in are retirees. That demographic is a net loser for a state. They are going to need LOADS of services and they are on incomes. I suspect as the retirees age, those low-no income tax states are going to need to make changes to their taxation policies.

 

[xBiffx]

The people flowing in are retirees. That demographic is a net loser for a state. They are going to need LOADS of services and they are on incomes. I suspect as the retirees age, those low-no income tax states are going to need to make changes to their taxation policies.

Nevada will be the last state to have an income tax.

 

[Jaskalas]

Just split already. The northeast can come join Canada. We'll have raging pop-and-chip parties while simultaneously treating everyone's health ailments.

The South can then cheer about rich people not paying tax and then complain about crumbling infrastructure.

I approve this message.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm not mad. You are just a condescending douche bag. That doesn't make me angry either. After all, that's your problem.

Clearly

 

[ivwshane]

I'm not mad. You are just a condescending douche bag. That doesn't make me angry either. After all, that's your problem.

Oh oh eskimospy! He's starting to feel like he's being attacked! You'd better let him win this argument, he might put you on ignore!

Lol! Has there been a thread where you have been right about anything biff?

 

[Jhhnn]

Washington Examiner & ALEC... no right wing spin there, I'm sure.

The OP is down on it like an East Colfax hooker on a Fifty.

 

[glenn1]

The #1 reason by a country mile is simply high housing costs and the resulting high standard of living. One thing the Northeast has done poorly is that they have far too many building regulations in place, especially considering the exploding demand for people that want to live here.

That being said, the Northeast is already so densely populated that it's simply not possible to grow at the same rate other places do. The Northeast Corridor alone has something close to 20% of the US population in 2% of the land area. Where would we put all the people?

The northeast's appeal is simply becoming more selective, eh?

And the population (and resulting poliitical power) getting diffused from the NE to the rest of the country more broadly is a good thing, in numerous ways but most of all the diversity of political opinions and interests it will bring to the table.

 

[Fern]

The people flowing in are retirees. That demographic is a net loser for a state. They are going to need LOADS of services and they are on incomes. I suspect as the retirees age, those low-no income tax states are going to need to make changes to their taxation policies.

You make them sound like illegal immigrants. :sneaky:

Fern

 

[sm625]

The northeast is like a whole different world. There are so many bogus jobs created out of government deficit spending and fed money printing. Most of the military contractors are located in that region, and of course most of their money comes from deficit spending.

 

[boomerang]

For anyone interested in a long read, click on the link in the article for the 137 page report. I've read about one quarter of it so far and I find it very interesting. I don't feel it's suitable for lefties though because it deals in harsh realities with studies and footnotes to back everything up. It is not emotion based, it's based around logic and that is something that is really lacking in the Hope and Change crowd.

 

[boomerang]

The people flowing in are retirees. That demographic is a net loser for a state. They are going to need LOADS of services and they are on incomes. I suspect as the retirees age, those low-no income tax states are going to need to make changes to their taxation policies.

Hmm, why do you feel they will need loads of services?

What services do you feel that retirees would be in need of that would unduly burden a state?

It appears that your assumption is that these services must be supplied by government. Why do feel that government would be providing them versus the private sector?

I know your post is based on "feelings" so I have not pinned you down to any specifics. Your feelings as they relate to these questions will be adequate.

Florida is a state with a very high percentage of retiree's and has been for a long, long time. How much longer do you feel they have before Florida is in a financial bind?

 

[Matt1970]

The northeast is like a whole different world. There are so many bogus jobs created out of government deficit spending and fed money printing. Most of the military contractors are located in that region, and of course most of their money comes from deficit spending.

They sure try like hell to get it in taxes though like here in NY. My girlfriends property taxes are just about to break the 4% mark. Mike are 3% but the mayor promised to not hike them. We have the highest gas tax in the nation, almost the highest state income tax, and the highest cigarette tax in the nation.

 

[fskimospy]

The northeast is like a whole different world. There are so many bogus jobs created out of government deficit spending and fed money printing.

The northeast is a large net contributor of federal tax dollars. It pays out considerably more than it gets back. How exactly are these jobs created out of government deficit spending if that is the case? That makes no logical sense.

Most of the military contractors are located in that region, and of course most of their money comes from deficit spending.

Actually, with the exception of Washington DC all the cities with the most defense jobs are outside of the northeast.

http://www.military.com/veteran-jobs/search/aerospace-defense-jobs/top-defense-job-cities.html

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

 

[theeedude]

That is not accurate. From 1950 -1990 CA went from 30-52 seats. In 2000, CA gained 1 more seat to 53.

From 1899-1991, the period of greatest growth, Republicans held the governorship all but 20 of those years possibly indicating CA was more conservative then than it is today.

I see 23 here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1950#California

Edit: Looks like it became 30 after the 1950 sensus, which would be the 1952 election.

 

[DominionSeraph]

The northeast is like a whole different world. There are so many bogus jobs created out of government deficit spending and fed money printing.

 

[theeedude]

First half of that time period has something notable about it.

The Democrat super majority is something it turned towards recently, the past two decades. I attest that the only reason California is not losing population is due to its immigrants.
Americans ARE fleeing it, especially when the impact of this drought hits.

California gained 5 seats under Reagan's governorship, and 8 under previous Democrat Pat Brown's governorship, so no, Republican Jesus is not disproportionally responsible for this gain.

 

[boomerang]

What's your point? The left is enamored with redistribution of wealth. That's what I see in that chart - redistribution of wealth. Is the data from 2005 still relevant today? I feel you can do better.

 

[Jhhnn]

What's your point? The left is enamored with redistribution of wealth. That's what I see in that chart - redistribution of wealth. Is the data from 2005 still relevant today? I feel you can do better.

Gee, I wonder how places like Mississippi can have such low taxes? Or why state taxes are so high in New Jersey?

Maybe your friends at ALEC can have a panel of experts figure it out for you.

And, uhh, just because the overall tax rate is low, that doesn't mean it's not regressive. Witness Alabama-

http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/04/02/states-with-the-highest-and-lowest-taxes/4/

Maybe that'll help you figure out why they drink a lot of moonshine, too...

 

[Slew Foot]

California has high taxes but that hasn't stopped them from gaining population. It does slow them down compared to places like Texas with lower taxes but high taxes aren't the only issue.

Its not smart wealthy people willing to pay those taxes that are moving to CA though. The population is growing because of all the mexicans.

 

[Jhhnn]

Its not smart wealthy people willing to pay those taxes that are moving to CA though. The population is growing because of all the mexicans.

That doesn't even begin to offset the right wing advantage in the Senate- two for California, and two for North Dakota.

It's all part of the conspiracy to persecute conservatives, I'm sure.

 

[DominionSeraph]

What's your point?

Woosh.

What are you even doing on this site?

 

[sandorski]

Every Winter 10s of thousands of Canadians travel to Florida, Arizona, and other southern US States to spend the Winter Months. Not because of Taxes, but because of Climate.

 

[glenn1]

That doesn't even begin to offset the right wing advantage in the Senate- two for California, and two for North Dakota.

It's all part of the conspiracy to persecute conservatives, I'm sure.

Or you could just support greater federalism, stop trying to decree everything from DC and do whatever the fuck you want in your state leaving the rest of us alone. But for your side getting to impress your enlightened views on everyone is the fun part, eh?