North Korea threatening physical response this weekend

[IndyColtsFan]

What's my national? Is it NK? China? Russia?

I'm talking from a neutral stance but your nationalistic pigheadedness won't recognize such thing.

If by "neutral," you mean post ignorant rants always critical of the US and consistently portraying NK as a victimized innocent, then you are the most "neutral" person I have ever met.

 

[shiner]

Seems like Urban Dictionary nailed this one......

AZN
retarded form of "asian." immature children who's eyes have not been open to the world who claim "asian pride," usually high school/high school drop outs and under with bleached hair that spend their days at the local arcade playing DDR, also types "LyKe Dis On thE InTerNeTzZzZz"

 

[AzN]

Errrr...you're the delusional freakshow around here. Why would the US want to invade China? You don't think the US could gain military bases on other countries bordering Russia or China? Such as Kazakhstan, for example? The US has military presence in Japan and South Korea and those are already on China's doorstep. Any military action the US would take against China would be from the air and both SK and Japan are well within range of US air forces, not to mention carrier battle groups.



Again, what makes you think the US is eager to invade China? China needs the US to survive financially, as it is China's largest market. NK doesn't matter to them at all and are more of a pain than anything. At worst, Skoorb's suggestion would probably happen -- China would want to be involved in any military operation in a "peacekeeping" role so they'd have a final say as to what happens with NK. The US has no intention of fighting China -- if that were America's plan, we would have done it in the 50s.



Oh, REALLY? You just said a few weeks ago that you were pretty sure that the US sank it but now, you "don't know." How interesting.



The US backed off the Yellow Sea for diplomatic reasons, not for fear of China. Additionally, regarding China having military drills with NK -- I can guarantee that the US definitely wouldn't be threatening nuclear war unlike your pals in NK. At any rate, the US military is decades ahead of anything NK has and China is probably 20 to 25 years behind as well.

You are hopeless mental defect of American mass. So US has been having all this proxy wars surrounding China with military bases for nothing I suppose.

 

[AzN]

If by "neutral," you mean post ignorant rants always critical of the US and consistently portraying NK as a victimized innocent, then you are the most "neutral" person I have ever met.

I understand you don't want to hear any bad doings by your country but you are obviously full of nationalistic shit to think US doesn't instigate around the globe.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

You are hopeless mental defect of American mass. So US has been having all this proxy wars surrounding China with military bases for nothing I suppose.

Why didn't the US finish off China in the 50s, when it would have been extremely easy to do so?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I understand you don't want to hear any bad doings by your country but you are obviously full of nationalistic shit to think US doesn't instigate around the globe.

No, little man, I do understand that every country in the world has both positives and negatives and the US has had its share of stupid foreign policy decisions. However, with respect to NK (which, after all, IS what we are discussing), the only mistake the US probably made was not finishing off NK and China in the 50s.

 

[pcgeek11]

No I am not a retired veteran but I have paid taxes for 20 + years and therefore have a right to my say.

While I do not agree with the courtmartialing of the "fat lip guys" but I do see the need for a zero tolerance policy. When unchecked aggression infiltrates the core we see the horrors that John Kerry highlighted in his post war accounts....

I agree you do have a right to what you think and can say whatever you like. But from a professional military point of view, you cannot enter a war and expect to have any degree of success when you have to second guess every move and base your actions on politics. You will have your ass handed to you every time. AKA Vietnam which was not fought like a war but was run from Washington DC by the politicians. Look how great that turned out. If you are fighting a ruthless enemy you have to also be ruthless. No I am not advocating the needless slaughter of innocents without any regard, but they cannot be your main concern.

John Kerrys post war accounts are garbage. He spent 4 months doing pickup duty ( picking up downed Airmen ) in the Gulf of Tonkin. and then 4 months on PBRs. and after three minor scraps left Vietnam. Every war has atrocities. It happens when you see many of your closest friends get hacked to pieces and then you catch the bastard(s) that did it. Sorry but it is a fact of life.

Kerry's BS was also rejected by his SWIFT Boat comrades ( Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT). It is bad when your own turns against you. There is a reason when this happens to a fellow serviceman.

We each have our own opinions... which we are entitled to.

 

[manimal]

I agree you do have a right to what you think and can say whatever you like. But from a professional military point of view, you cannot enter a war and expect to have any degree of success when you have to second guess every move and base your actions on politics. You will have your ass handed to you every time. AKA Vietnam which was not fought like a war but was run from Washington DC by the politicians. Look how great that turned out. If you are fighting a ruthless enemy you have to also be ruthless. No I am not advocating the needless slaughter of innocents without any regard, but they cannot be your main concern.

John Kerrys post war accounts are garbage. He spent 4 months doing pickup duty ( picking up downed Airmen ) in the Gulf of Tonkin. and then 4 months on PBRs. and after three minor scraps left Vietnam. Every war has atrocities. It happens when you see many of your closest friends get hacked to pieces and then you catch the bastard(s) that did it. Sorry but it is a fact of life.

Kerry's BS was also rejected by his SWIFT Boat comrades ( Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT). It is bad when your own turns against you. There is a reason when this happens to a fellow serviceman.

We each have our own opinions... which we are entitled to.

Glad we can agree one a few things

The swift boating of John Kerry was a concerted political effort to discredit him and had all the hallmarks of a Bush's Brain scheme.

The problem with the dead paradigm of war as you see it is that while effective militarily its impact in the connected world is nothing but negative. While I mourn every single death and read the sticky at the top of this page periodically to honor the fallen their sacrifices are starting to look in vain... I have lost a family member in Iraq and would the opportunity arise I would strike down the guilty party without thinking about it. The problem with blood is it only leads to more blood.

As we speak the political winds are changing in this country. Soon Afghanistan and Iraq will be memories that we need to learn from. Have we learned the right lessons?

To look at Vietman and only take away that it was misrun by Washington is to look at history with rose colored glasses. While I do agree many mistakes were made back to the French involvment the underlying conditions that existed in the region would have made any military strategy ineffective. Without the support of the man on the street and his family all wars are lost.... Lets not romanticize war and specifically Vietman.... It was a mistake from the getgo and cost more lives and instability in the subsequent decades. Sadly we are going to see the same thing in Iraq-Afghanistan- can we please learn this lesson soon so no more sons and daughters pay the price for national hubris...

 

[Kirby]

I understand you don't want to hear any bad doings by your country but you are obviously full of nationalistic shit to think US doesn't instigate around the globe.

This is fucking rich coming from a NK supporter. :lmfao:

 

[SammyJr]

Deficits... deficits.. rabble rable... deficits... socialism... grandchildren... deficits... waaaar? USA! USA! USA! Send in the troops! Nuke those commies! USA!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Deficits... deficits.. rabble rable... deficits... socialism... grandchildren... deficits... waaaar? USA! USA! USA! Send in the troops! Nuke those commies! USA!

Uh........WTF are you talking about?

 

[SammyJr]

Uh........WTF are you talking about?

I very very quickly skimmed the first few posts and it seemed like the deficit hawks were getting all wet for another expensive war.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I very very quickly skimmed the first few posts and it seemed like the deficit hawks were getting all wet for another expensive war.

Nah, I don't think anyone wants a war with NK but if one breaks out, we should be prepared to finish it quickly. I think we're all just throwing around different scenarios.