North Carolina or Texas?

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Where to go for training week!

  • Dallas, TX: Oct 18-22, 2010

  • Herndon, VA: Nov 8-12, 2010

  • Raleigh, NC: Dec 6-10, 2010


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lupi

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herdon will suck, dallas could be decent that time, maybe not so hot. rlaeigh would be a decent other option if dallas weather hasn't cooled down by then.
 

fatpat268

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Yeah, well no to you too

:colbert:

To elaborate:

Your view of Texas is highly simplified and a bit inaccurate.

Texans love their football for sure, but I haven't personally seen any incidents where people ridicule or get violent to people wearing the "wrong jersey." Hell, you walk around Dallas with a Philadelphia Eagle jersey, and most people just don't give a shit. Or an OU jersery in Austin.

High School football is immensely popular, and a lot of the small town really get into their rivalries, but it's all in good fun.

But of course, the popular view of texas is that everyone wears cowboy hats and boots, everyone speaks with a southern drawl, and that everyone is a mindless buffoon. And that, is simply not true.
 
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herndon is a 30 min drive to downtown DC, or 15 min drive 30 min metro. there is dick all to do in herndon or reston itself though. not sure if your free time allows for it, but DC is a better tourist destination than either of the other 2.

dallas is a nice big city, big enough to keep a tourist busy for a week.

never been to raleigh though, so thats what i would pick.
 

trmiv

Lifer
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If it was me, I'd choose Dallas. Then again I live in Raleigh, so that may be a factor in my decision.
 

GuitarDaddy

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If it was me, I'd choose Dallas. Then again I live in Raleigh, so that may be a factor in my decision.

:thumbsup:

I would pick Raleigh because I've lived in DFW most of my life, despite the possibility of running into that braggart Zimfamous :D
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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:thumbsup:

I would pick Raleigh because I've lived in DFW most of my life, despite the possibility of running into that braggart Zimfamous :D

:D

(I'm only in Raleigh ~1 week/year these days, anyway. Your chances are slim.)
 

Phoenix86

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NC hands down.

I am from Raleigh. weather on 12/6 could be somewhere b/w 20-80. Who knows?


REAL BBQ and Bojangles....not that BS beef stuff that they try to pass as BBQ in Texas. :p
You and I need to have words good sir.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Anyway, the main point is that there is easily just as much to do and see around Raleigh. ...and the food is way better. ...except probably the mexican/texican food.

LOL, the best you got is that girly Carolina style BBQ, we got it all here baby! You want KC,Memphis,West Coast, and yes even Carolina style as well as dozens of Texas styles of BBQ. But I'll give you a win in the BBQ category cause thats all ya got:)

Our worst category for dining in this area IMO is seafood, we have a small handfull of excellent places but they are pricey because it all has to be flown in daily. The mid range seafood places are mediocre at best (Red Lobster types). We do have a great diversity of ethnic cuisine here. The key to fine dinning in this area is do your research or get guidance from a local source on what you desire. To visitors this area can be overwhelming and seem like a sea of chain reasturants, but if you look past that and find the gems in your favorite cuisines you won't be disappointed.
 

zinfamous

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LOL, the best you got is that girly Carolina style BBQ, we got it all here baby! You want KC,Memphis,West Coast, and yes even Carolina style as well as dozens of Texas styles of BBQ. But I'll give you a win in the BBQ category cause thats all ya got:)

Our worst category for dining in this area IMO is seafood, we have a small handfull of excellent places but they are pricey because it all has to be flown in daily. The mid range seafood places are mediocre at best (Red Lobster types). We do have a great diversity of ethnic cuisine here. The key to fine dinning in this area is do your research or get guidance from a local source on what you desire. To visitors this area can be overwhelming and seem like a sea of chain reasturants, but if you look past that and find the gems in your favorite cuisines you won't be disappointed.

let me clarify something: There is no "Carolina" BBQ. There is South Carolina style (made with that horrid mustard sauce D:), and there is western style NC (saucy), and Eastern style NC (vinegar-based, none of that worthless "BBQ sauce" crud). Hell, Even our state is divided over this issue!

We introduced this country to BBQ, the cooking method, all that jazz, so we're the first...so we got that! :D ..also, there is no "Carolina." We don't think much of those in SC, so we prefer not to be lumped in with them. Hell, they can't even get their own football team, so they lobbied to share ours (...which we originally took from you guys. :sneaky:)
 

joutlaw

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NC hands down.

I am from Raleigh. weather on 12/6 could be somewhere b/w 20-80. Who knows?


REAL BBQ and Bojangles....not that BS beef stuff that they try to pass as BBQ in Texas. :p

Popeyes>Bojangles any day of the week.
 

erikistired

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i went to texas once for a few days. i'll never go back. worst experience ever.

north carolina is nice, but i'd rather visit during october than december, still won't be too bad. i lived down in matthews for a year or so, near charlotte.
 

trmiv

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Oct 10, 1999
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Anything to do at night after my training?

Depends how old you are. If you're early to mid 20's there is a lot of clubs and bars to hang with the college aged crowd. If you're in your mid to late 30's or 40's you can always stay in your room and watch movies.
 

lxskllr

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I have no desire to see Texas, but I'd probably go there anyway. It's very different from VA, and NC which I'm already fairly familiar with.
 

joutlaw

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lol. that is so fucking wrong. sad. really.

just...just sad.

why do you hate fried chicken? :(

The last Bojangles I went in was like a time machine from the 80s. The girl at the register gave the order over a PA. The spicey chicken biscuit was weak at best. Then the hashbrowns were soggy and nasty. Maybe it was a bad experience, but even in MS I've had better service and food in Popeyes. This Bojangles was close to Asheville that I stopped at on the way the French Broad to go rafting.

If I want friend chicken I go to a couple local places. We have a place called Two Sisters in downtown Jackson, MS that is by far the best fried chicken I've ever had. It's a small place that is always packed. The other place I go to is Mama Hamils. They are a barbeque buffet type place, but they have some good fried chicken considering they feed 300+ easily at lunch on any given day. They are constantly bringing food out.

As far as barbeque... I'm a baby back rib person. I like dry rub ribs though and no sauce. Rendezvous is some of the worst I've had though... don't judge dry ribs if those are the only ones you've tried.
 

Svnla

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Nov 10, 2003
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Never been to either place, but, NC sounds cool, Texas to me makes me think of a treeless desert...

Maybe in West Texas but East Texas has a lot of trees.

Austin = lot of trees/greens/hills area.

<<---grew up in East Tx/North La/South Ar
 

Svnla

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Yep, and the State Fair ends on 10/17, even though I think that whole thing is overated as hell. Who really wants to eat fried jellybeans and fried coke?

I think this year the State Fair has "fried beer". I will try it for sure.
 

boomhower

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Weather in NC is early December isn't bad. A little chilly but not freezing by any means and snow is rare that time of year. That said, I would go to Texas in October.
 

zinfamous

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The last Bojangles I went in was like a time machine from the 80s. The girl at the register gave the order over a PA. The spicey chicken biscuit was weak at best. Then the hashbrowns were soggy and nasty. Maybe it was a bad experience, but even in MS I've had better service and food in Popeyes. This Bojangles was close to Asheville that I stopped at on the way the French Broad to go rafting.

If I want friend chicken I go to a couple local places. We have a place called Two Sisters in downtown Jackson, MS that is by far the best fried chicken I've ever had. It's a small place that is always packed. The other place I go to is Mama Hamils. They are a barbeque buffet type place, but they have some good fried chicken considering they feed 300+ easily at lunch on any given day. They are constantly bringing food out.

As far as barbeque... I'm a baby back rib person. I like dry rub ribs though and no sauce. Rendezvous is some of the worst I've had though... don't judge dry ribs if those are the only ones you've tried.

I much prefer dry rub ribs to saucy. NC is definitely not the place to for ribs, though...but there are some decent places. That's just not what we do.

Bojangles, in my estimation, is easily the best fast food fried chicken you will find. Sucks you had a shitty experience. That happens sometimes. Small, independent places should have better fried chicken.

Their biscuits far outclass anywhere else (except maybe Biscuitville. yum). Only "biscuits" I've had from popeyes are little lumps of un-frozen batter. certainly not fresh. Their fries are either the best, or the worst. depends on how old they are. But that's true of most places. They also do a country ham biscuit...and breakfast menu all day. awesome.

Popeyes is like a minor step above KFC if you ask me....
 

DT4K

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well, if you're going with DFW, then why not compare to the Triangle Area? (Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill) About 1 million in the entire area, also the highest concentration of PhDs in the world! /feels good, man.

Probably depends on what you include, but when I googled it, it said the triangle has 1.7 million people.

I live in Charlotte and have spent very little time in the Raleigh area, but as far as the weather, I think it's pretty similar. Snow is possible, but not likely. Temp could be 20 degrees or 70 degrees. One of the things I like about NC is that in the winter, you can have one weekend when it's in the 20's and the next weekend, it's in the 70's and I'm playing golf in shorts.

Personally, if I was going to have enough free time to travel a little, I'd pick VA and spend some time wandering around DC, just because I've never been there.