Originally posted by: 3NF
Oh, but they are not complete nutjobs .. they aren't!! I've met them .. have you? I can understand your point of view or questioning .. I would do the same thing. That's why I actually went to a seminar. Can you at least suppress your opinion until you've actually met them? 🙂
Raelians are the coolest people on the planet, without question 🙂
I was hoping that the OP was at least some kind of joke/shens post.
Fine, they're nice people. Crazy people can still be friendly.
It looks like another rehashing of intelligent design, except not by a deity, but by extra-terrestrials.
Fine, maybe we are seeded from space. Big deal. Stop with the cheesy cult-following and worship of them, and trying to interpret their "wishes" based on voices in your head. I don't worship my parents, nor do I dress up all weird or travel the country trying to convert people to the religion of Parentology.
Originally posted by: destrekor
what are we gonna do if the Raelians are right in some context, that extraterrestrials started life. My theory of life is that we are a complete product of natural evolution, but that the seeding of Earth with the material to create RNA and DNA may have been intentional by another race of creature, making Earth their sandbox. We can't be the most intelligent species to ever grace the Universe, if so, then evolution and the nature laws of the Universe are seriously flawed. 😛
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Technically, there is a possibility that we are the most intelligent life forms in existence. It's pretty damn slim, but it's a possibility, the same way that it's "possible" to vomit on your keyboard, and the resulting short circuits will type out the complete New York City phonebook.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Let me say this .. evolution is a myth, or a misinterpretation. It says that we, humans, came about by CHANCE, through natural selection weeding out traits that don't fit in.
The ecology on the planet we see today was DESIGNED. Think about it .. can you tell the difference, or prove, that it was designed, or happened by chance?
To say that it happened by chance is wrong .. it leaves the door open. What does "CHANCE" mean? It leaves a layer above it opened, which you can't prove or disprove. However, all it takes is common sense to see the answer 🙂
This tired argument has been gone over so many times in evolution vs creation threads.
"Chance" is a bit ambiguous. The Universe follows certain laws, simply because that's the way it is. These laws lead to certain conditions and happenstances. We see it as "orderly" because that's just the way we operate. We like to create order so that life makes sense. If water flowed uphill 30% of the time, that would be the "order" of the Universe, and we'd marvel at how perfect it was that the water does that. Surely it
must be by design.
Another reason we see order is because of our short lifespans. We often don't see extreme disorder by that nature. The place is freaking chaotic. 5 billion years ago, this region was a big cloud of gas and dust, with a dense region that was slowly accumulating matter. Soon it was massive enough to start a fusion reaction in the center. Suddenly the region is bathed in electromagnetic radiation, and the solar wind began stirring things up.
Small lumps of matter coalesced into planets and asteroids. Bodies were flying all over the place. Eventually something about the size of Mars slammed into Earth, and the result was a satellite, our Moon.
In time, various molecules by chance acquired the property of self-replication by way of interactions with other molecules, among a vast ocean warmed by sunlight, and stirred by turbulence. With the abundance of energy, both radiant and chemical, these molecules increased their complexity over time, giving rise to primitive bacteria. Bacteria begin working together, and soon you have multi-cellular life forms, all of which constantly adapt to changing environmental conditions. Those that don't adapt die off, erasing their genes from existence, in a place that no longer needs them.
From a chaotic cloud of dust to a ball of metal and rock orbiting a giant ball of plasma. And on that tiny ball is a thin film of self-replicating, self-sustaining reactions, some of which are able to say, "Where the heck did all this come from?"
Yeah,
really perfectly created.
At which stage exactly would these "intelligent designers" have intervened? The molecular stage? The stage where homo sapiens amazingly sprung into existence from absolutely nothing in a very imperfect environment?
(Seriously, there are tons of ways that this "created" environment can kill the life forms it was supposedly created for.)
