[Nordic Hardware] AMD introducing Radeon hd7000 Dec. 5th

[flopper]

7970>eyefinity 120hz>its a given>OC to 1200mhz>pure awesomeness Barney style.

 

[Skurge]

So if this is genuine, finally a single card that can run 3 monitors. I'll be saving up for that.

 

[tviceman]

Your pricing estimate is pretty good according to rumors. XT back at $500.

It wasn't long ago when rampant rumors (and I mean wide-spread belief), closer to the release of Southern Islands than we are now from Tahiti, foretold the hd6970 was going to cost $500 and be 50% faster than the gtx480 in tessellation.
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Looks like people have very short memories.

 

[Will Robinson]

It wasn't long ago when rampant rumors (and I mean wide-spread belief), closer to the release of Southern Islands than we are now from Tahiti, foretold the hd6970 was going to cost $500 and be 50% faster than the gtx480 in tessellation.
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Looks like people have very short memories.

Yes,apparently...:whiste:

 

[exar333]

The 7950 and 7970 specs seem too close to me. I agree with a few others here that the VRAM memory amount may be different between the two. Prices are a little high, but if the performance backs them up, would fit into the existing price structure well. IMHO, the 6950 is too low for what you get; it could easily be $299 and still be a fair price. Im not one to complain about prices being too low though....

 

[Vdubchaos]

Chances are they will come out with midrange cards first (7870 and 7850)....and 79XX will follow in few months (just like they did with 6000 series)

 

[Grooveriding]

The 7950 and 7970 specs seem too close to me. I agree with a few others here that the VRAM memory amount may be different between the two. Prices are a little high, but if the performance backs them up, would fit into the existing price structure well. IMHO, the 6950 is too low for what you get; it could easily be $299 and still be a fair price. Im not one to complain about prices being too low though....

I am expecting big boosts because of the skipping of 32nm and GCN. $450 would be reasonable for 175% of a 6970, but they may be even faster than that.

 

[Silverforce11]

It wasn't long ago when rampant rumors (and I mean wide-spread belief), closer to the release of Southern Islands than we are now from Tahiti, foretold the hd6970 was going to cost $500 and be 50% faster than the gtx480 in tessellation.
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Looks like people have very short memories.

And thats why in my other posts regarding this coming gen, to not trust anything until its ready to ship with final bioses.

Last gen we had every tech site out there spewing "authentic" slides, gpuz shots, benchmarks with all vastly different specs and performance, all AMD certified to its partners.

Could it happen again? Who knows.

Though this time around, because they are going in first with the 28nm release, they are likely to be releasing info to hype people up to get them to wait a bit before purchasing NV products over the holidays. Refer to the gtx580 big price reduction post.

 

[tviceman]

nvrmnd

 

[Bobisuruncle54]

It wasn't long ago when rampant rumors (and I mean wide-spread belief), closer to the release of Southern Islands than we are now from Tahiti, foretold the hd6970 was going to cost $500 and be 50% faster than the gtx480 in tessellation.
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Tessellation? I don't recall ever seeing that rumour. Performance certainly, and that was due to the apparent 10% die space saving the 4 shader architecture had over the 5 shader arch, but it turned out the space saving (and therefore 2048/1920 shader count for the 6970/6950) was no where to be seen.

 

[tviceman]

So I guess this unveiling event turned out to be a false rumor?

 

[Subyman]

So I guess this unveiling event turned out to be a false rumor?

Aye.

 

[videoclone]

Mobile GPU's and to big brant it companies... they now have laptop models with 7000 series..

but no high end desktop stuff yet

 

[StinkyPinky]

Well this was all very underwhelming.

Guess we wont hear anything until after Christmas now.

 

[3DVagabond]

Why would the first 28nm GPU's be mobile?

 

[videoclone]

Because laptops outsell Desktop PC's 2 to 1

 

[Blitzvogel]

Because laptops outsell Desktop PC's 2 to 1

The midrange mobile graphics sector has become quite heated up, though the lack of GDDR5 penetration across entire GPU ranges really just drives me bonkers though.

 

[Bateluer]

Why would the first 28nm GPU's be mobile?

Because laptops outsell Desktop PC's 2 to 1

Laptops get more of a benefit from the power savings than desktop parts do. But, could make the argument that people are more likely to buy a new graphics card rather than a new laptop though.

 

[3DVagabond]

Laptops get more of a benefit from the power savings than desktop parts do. But, could make the argument that people are more likely to buy a new graphics card rather than a new laptop though.

Laptop GPU's are typically lower clocked versions of desktop GPU's. It just seems strange to release the mobile version first. I wonder if there's a problem with TDP or yields?

 

[Stuka87]

Laptop GPU's are typically lower clocked versions of desktop GPU's. It just seems strange to release the mobile version first. I wonder if there's a problem with TDP or yields?

Doesn't seem strange to me. The mobile market is FAR larger than the desktop market. And by releasing them now, they can get into laptops that are just about to ship, or will be shipping soon.

Plus if yields were bad, mobiles would not be the first out. They are far mor strict TDP's than desktop parts.

 

[IlllI]

a lot of times those laptop gpus are nothing more than renamed older models

 

[3DVagabond]

Doesn't seem strange to me. The mobile market is FAR larger than the desktop market. And by releasing them now, they can get into laptops that are just about to ship, or will be shipping soon.

Plus if yields were bad, mobiles would not be the first out. They are far mor strict TDP's than desktop parts.

OK, let me reword it. Have you ever seen them make a mobile GPU that wasn't first a desktop one? I don't ever remember that happening. (Maybe it has?)

The reason I'm pointing to yields and/or TDP is that 1: Because of it being a larger market if they didn't have enough chips for both, which market would they cater to? Likely the larger one. 2: TDP could be too high at target clocks. At the lower clocks that mobile runs at, they might be fine though. I say this because as clocks are pushed power draw increases exponentially. The reverse is also true as clocks are lowered.

 

[BrightCandle]

OK, let me reword it. Have you ever seen them make a mobile GPU that wasn't first a desktop one? I don't ever remember that happening. (Maybe it has?)

The reason I'm pointing to yields and/or TDP is that 1: Because of it being a larger market if they didn't have enough chips for both, which market would they cater to? Likely the larger one. 2: TDP could be too high at target clocks. At the lower clocks that mobile runs at, they might be fine though. I say this because as clocks are pushed power draw increases exponentially. The reverse is also true as clocks are lowered.

Clock speed is a linear relationship with power consumption, all else being equal. The lower voltage at those clocks is what will really reduce the power consumption.

But actually it might be that SemiAccurate was right about the High performance and low power processes from TSMC. They said that the high performance was running very late and that the low power was about ready. We may be seeing AMD releasing laptop not because they want to but because its the only silicon process available. The low power variant is unlikely to be competitive in the desktop space.

 

[LtGoonRush]

Props to NordicHardware for getting this story right, even if they were a day early. That said, given how terrible this announcement is I wish this had been a hoax