NOOBS NEW BUILD GOES SOUR

RedTail

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Greetings,
I am having two issues:

1) When I power on....the system repeatedly goes off then back on (maybe even 6-9 x's) then it stays on with no problem. I am using a rather large 1000 watt power supply. Could this be a possible BIOS power issue? Single rail PSU adjusting voltage? MOBO protecting itself due to to much power?

What is strange is that I had the exact same problem so I returned all the products thinking something was defective....now the exact same problem.....something possibly is not compatible. Symptoms appear to be a short but I dont think it is. I carefully put all motherboard off sets from the case and did not overtighten any screws. When the power goes off and on....everything lights up....fans kick on....led's light up.....then bam off for about 1 second on for like 4 then off for 1 .....happens again and again......

2) Graphics card is receiving power because I see the lights.....but monitor remains black. Mointor will not detect the card whatsoever. I checked the obvious power to the monitor..etc...etc...

Im a one desperate frustrated NOOB! I want to diagnose this power issue first.

I listed my Hardware below.

Thanks,
RedTail

PSU -- OCZ EliteXStream OCZ1000EXS 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V
HDD -- WD Caviar GP WD7500AACS 750GB SATA 3.0Gb/s
OPTICAL -- ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner / SATA Model DRW-2014L1T
RAM -- CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel
MOBO -- ASUS M3N-HT DELUXE/MEMPIPE AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
CPU -- AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core
GRAPHICS cARD -- EVGA 01G-P3-N897-A3 GeForce 9800 GX2 SSC 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
CASE -- XCLIO A380BK / ATX

 

RadiclDreamer

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No, your power supply isnt "too much" the parts will regulate and only grab the power needed.

With reboots like this I tend to recommend reseating all of your componants to make sure that one of them isnt just a tad loose. Also, make sure your cpu fan is plugged into the right header on the motherboard since some mobos detect the fan speed and if it doesnt detect cpu fan it wont boot.

Also, check the front panel headers, its possible that one of them is loose or misplaced
Other than that make sure it isnt grounding itsself against the case or a loose screw
 

boomerang

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You say you returned everything. Everything?

Don't give the PS a second thought.

I would reset the CMOS following the instructions in the manual.

I know you feel you do not have a grounding issue, but you can be certain by assembling the components outside the case and firing it up. I usually put the motherboard on the box it came in to do this.

Do you have the additional 4 pin power connector plugged into your motherboard?

Do you have the CPU fan plugged into the correct header?

Try with one stick of RAM.

Can you try the on-board video for troubleshooting purposes?

Try starting with just one stick of RAM, the CPU and a monitor hooked up to on-board video. You can add one component at a time to troubleshoot if you have a problem child.
 

RedTail

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Greetings,

CPU Fan Spinning With No Problems....In fact all fans are spinning and all leds are on. Motherboard light says on during whole kick off kick on process.

I did actually return EVERYTHING because I thought that there was one bad component that could be shorting something out or not jiving. ....Now having exact same problem.
I can hear the HDD kicking on after they system will stay on. Probably booting up to BIOS ... just cant see it.

Even if I get it to boot correctly, im stilling going to have this pwr. issue.

I also tryed the alternate PCIE-2 for the graphics card with no avail.

I have the mobo off set screws connected to the case and they are not overtightened.

If yall dont think it is the PSU....Hmmm.....why the hek would it kick off and back on .... then just stay on? Before returning other system....it would kick off and on as well....but of course once its on ... its on....in fact graphics and everything worked and even installed XP......The power issue continued to happen and just got frustrated and got everything replaced.

One concern of mine is that I dont blow something out before diagnosing issue. Scared to turn the dang thing on....Reseated graphics and pic NIC.......yes...mobo pin is grounded and of course standard power is connected to mobo.

Front panel headers are nice and tight ... just like previous system.....

All screws are set perfectly...

On the previous system...I did take the mobo out --- kicked it on ---Same issue was happening.

CPU fan has one header ... right next to the heatsink....dont think thats it....

What are the chances of the cmos needing to be reset on both systems?

If RAM was a issue would it eventually stay on after kicking off and on 6-9 times before staying on?

Once the system kick on ... I do hear one beep

Monitor test screen stays on until I connect the DVI then power immediately goes off.


Very Confused,

RedTail

 

boomerang

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Plug it into a different outlet. This sounds like you've got a problem with the house wiring.
 

RedTail

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Aint this some "YOU KNOW WHAT"

This is directly off of ASUS website --- apparently a bios issue between my board and the amd 9850:

0901 2008/05/29 update

Description 0901 BIOS
1.Fix the problem that CrashFree function is abnormal sometimes.
2.Fix the problem that it may takes 4 to 8 times of cold boot to enter OS with Phenom 9850 and 9950 CPUs.
3.Fix the problem that the chassis fan will suddenly stop.

File Size 745.33 (KBytes)

So.....I call and get a extremely rude tech from ASUS....he said there is no way that I can update that bios myself. I will have to call tommorow to order a updated cmos chip. What a drag. Dont even know if I believe him cuz he was such a jerk.
System will stay on after about 9 off an on's....I feel like im gonna blow something at the number of offs and ons im going through. Computer is not posting, no beeps, no video.
WOW........tempted to just return the board and cpu again. Hate to do that though but jeezamoley. No way its a short now......A bios that would not even allow the system to boot was the last thing on my mind. I kept thinking that this was a component that was not installed right. Just dang sick. Hopefully if someone out there happens to run in this issue...maybe our post would help them.

RedTail



 

Old Hippie

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I will have to call tommorow to order a updated cmos chip.
That's gonna be kinda tuff because the chip is soldered to the board....

However, we must note that the BIOS chip on the Asus M3N-HT Deluxe as with all of Asus' current generation motherboards is actually soldered onto the motherboard, and not a socketed unit -- meaning the chip is not self-replaceable. This could lead to BIOS flash problems that would require the whole motherboard to be replaced.

Maybe we better go to plan B..........
 

RedTail

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Greetings,
After some long hard work and help from the forums.....I have the box up and running. The board was not compatible with the cpu until a bios update was performed. I found a old am2 sempron, threw it in....then updated the bios....then all power issues were resolved with the 9850. Also, the ram was a problem, would not boot with that Corsair. So....bottom line is that I had two issue going on. Tons of work was done thinking that this was a short or connection...etc..etc...for all the newbs out there wanting to build....DONT GIVE UP....KEEP DIGING. The payoff of building your own system compared to buying .... is infinite...money and performance wise. The only issue that im having now is the board sees one type of hdd but not another....another post is inevitable but im certainly getting there with everyones help.
thanks,
RedTail
 

robisbell

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glad to see it's working, always make sure the ram is 100% compatible via the memory manufacturer.