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Non US Citizens: how would you vote?

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AreaCode7O7

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For the non-US folks, as you're watching the election and probably rolling your eyes a bit at the US, what would you do if you were in our shoes? Who would you vote for?

For the US and non-US alike, who would you put on the ballot (assuming that if you put them there they'd have a fighting chance, even if they wouldn't in reality) that would get your vote?
 
Economically, Senator McCain would probably be better for my country - Canada - he's made less protectionist noises during the campaign so far.

Senator Obama is someone whose judgment I would trust, though, both as the leader of our biggest trade partner and neighbour, and as the "leader of the free world".

It's kind of win-win for us really. 😛
 
I lived in the U.S. for over 20 years as a permanent resident and have a deep love for what the country stands for. My vote would have been for McCain had he not picked Palin. That was an expedient rather than a wise choice and will now be beholden to the extreme right nutcases. Another Cheney White House is the last thing we need.

My doubts about Obama is really whether he can stand the ultimate leadership test. If his choice of VP is anything to go by, he'll be more conservative in his decision making. He will probably exhibit the same tentativeness of the JFK white house and will grow into the job. Also, I doubt he is as extreme as a lot of conservatives are making him out to. Nor is he the second coming of Jimmy Carter. The million dollar question is whether he'll be tough enough on the job.

After weighing all of these, my vote would be for Obama. I think he'll bring some calm to the incendiary situation that exists around the world and will bring respect to the U.S. rather than the fear and loathing that exists right now. That is the need of the hour. It's obvious he's extremely smart, so I'll take a rain-check on him on the toughness issue.
 
The only person I have ever met who would vote McCain is my politically inert fanatically patriotic American distant relative.

Here in the UK (from those I have spoken to at least) most openly laugh at McCain (especially Palin with her church's "Pray the gay away" as an immensely common/easy target) - and practically all are stunned that 50% still vote Republican.

edit: My European and Canadian relatives are also in no doubt over who they would like to see elected.
 
Originally posted by: Cellulose
The only person I have ever met who would vote McCain is my politically inert fanatically patriotic American distant relative.

Here in the UK (from those I have spoken to at least) most openly laugh at McCain (especially Palin with her church's "Pray the gay away" as an immensely common/easy target) - and practically all are stunned that 50% still vote Republican.

edit: My European and Canadian relatives are also in no doubt over who they would like to see elected.
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Saw Eddie Izzard about a month back, and part of his intro was about the election. "America, please, please, PLEASE vote! And vote for Obama!"
 
Originally posted by: tvarad
I lived in the U.S. for over 20 years as a permanent resident and have a deep love for what the country stands for. My vote would have been for McCain had he not picked Palin. That was an expedient rather than a wise choice and will now be beholden to the extreme right nutcases. Another Cheney White House is the last thing we need.

My doubts about Obama is really whether he can stand the ultimate leadership test. If his choice of VP is anything to go by, he'll be more conservative in his decision making. He will probably exhibit the same tentativeness of the JFK white house and will grow into the job. Also, I doubt he is as extreme as a lot of conservatives are making him out to. Nor is he the second coming of Jimmy Carter. The million dollar question is whether he'll be tough enough on the job.

After weighing all of these, my vote would be for Obama. I think he'll bring some calm to the incendiary situation that exists around the world and will bring respect to the U.S. rather than the fear and loathing that exists right now. That is the need of the hour. It's obvious he's extremely smart, so I'll take a rain-check on him on the toughness issue.
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If it was my country I'd go for Obama. But McCain is probably better for the European economy considering he wants to keep following Bush' path of pissing off as many countries as possible, totally ruining the US economy and educational system, and getting as many US citizens killed in his war for oil as possible. The only big risk for us with the McCain/Palin combo is that they decide it is time to start the apocalypse, and start tossing around nukes. But even with Palin's level of insanity I don't think the chance of that happening is much higher than 80%.

The choice between McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden is about as difficult as the choice between allowing Al Qaida to get nukes or to allow a policeman to carry a gun.
 
"A poll conducted by the BBC shows that residents in 22 foreign nations, including most of Europe, prefer Democrat Barack Obama to Republican John McCain for president of the United States."
more from www.bbc.co.uk

The way rest of the world sees it:

Bush politics = bad
Any change = good
->
McCain = Bush politics part II
Obama = change

... you get the idea.
 
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If it was my country I'd go for Obama. But McCain is probably better for the European economy considering he wants to keep following Bush' path of pissing off as many countries as possible, totally ruining the US economy and educational system, and getting as many US citizens killed in his war for oil as possible. The only big risk for us with the McCain/Palin combo is that they decide it is time to start the apocalypse, and start tossing around nukes. But even with Palin's level of insanity I don't think the chance of that happening is much higher than 80%.

The choice between McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden is about as difficult as the choice between allowing Al Qaida to get nukes or to allow a policeman to carry a gun.
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That is also a key concern here for most - the "them and us" foreign policy.

Unfortunately if the USA Economy fails, so does the UK's :frown:
 
I would vote Obama (as would probably at least 80% of Norwegians). Obama is so much more likeable and skilled in retoric than McCain would ever dream of beeing. Obamas vice president seems like a guy with the experience Obama lacks, and he also seems to have a good track record. McCain seems somewhat ok, but the vise president candidate is just laughable/terrible/comic - pick your choice.

 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
WTF does it matter what non-citizens think? They have NO vote, so their opinion is valueless.
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Now that's a brilliant way to think of the situation. Is that really what you believe is the right way to think about such a matter? And I thought Palin's foreign relation and policy experience was awful...
 
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: BoomerD
WTF does it matter what non-citizens think? They have NO vote, so their opinion is valueless.
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The irony in this post just blew my mind!
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: BoomerD
WTF does it matter what non-citizens think? They have NO vote, so their opinion is valueless.
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Now that's a brilliant way to think of the situation. Is that really what you believe is the right way to think about such a matter? And I thought Palin's foreign relation and policy experience was awful...
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Then 'splain why the opinion of anyone who is NOT a US citizen matters in US politics...

I don't give a rat's ass who Canada or Mexico elects in their political offices. Sure, in one way or another it might affect things in the US, but it's NOT MY COUNTRY, my opinion doesn't matter.

Should we here in the US take opinion polls from other countries to see who THEY think we should elect?


Fuck that.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Then 'splain why the opinion of anyone who is NOT a US citizen matters in US politics...
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That's an easy one. Our country heavily influences many aspects of other countries. The world isn't isolated anymore. It is quite the opposite. It flows together now and it keeps getting smaller. What we do doesn't just effect us anymore regardless of whether we want it to or not. That's why they call it a "global economy" which is only one aspect proving why the US is not isolated and why the quality of our leaders is a concern to other countries. It may not be quite as big of a concern to them as it is to us and their concerns may be different from our concerns, but they still exist and they are still important. Likewise, the leaders of many other countries effect us as well. These concerns and differences in opinion play a very large role in foreign relations which the US obviously relies heavily on.
 
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