Non religious reasons to oppose gay marriage

[soulcougher73]

So since he is opposed to discrimination against groups liberals care about he is opposed to discrimination.

Got it.

The fail is strong with this one.

 

[soulcougher73]

The Top 8 Ways To Be 'Traditionally Married' According To The Bible

http://www.upworthy.com/the-top-8-ways-to-be-traditionally-married-according-to-the-bible?g=2&c=la2

 

[LunarRay]

I'm 64% Irish and 33% French; my wife is 44% Irish and 56% French. Clearly we have enough between us to be married. Or are we screwed? (Well if we are then at least we're screwing)

I'll have to check my bible to see if there's some special dispensation you may be entitled to but suspect that if you are it will require some amount of penance...

Back... It seems that in Numbers there is some reference to Dudeyou'reontome where it speaks to Genesister and some Giants who slept with some chicks... They, the giants, were Irish and from some gay place called Frisco. The chicks, it appears, are the result of the entire town being populated by Adam, Eve and Cain... Six vowels and five constanents in three names beget words like Nicea, Ma and a Dave... WE all know Dave is a bit out of it so... we're left with Nicea and Ma where Constantine Proclaimed Gallic The language of Rome... Now in Gallic some words are the same as the old Latin but have different meanings... Ma historically meant Gay sex.. and Since Gay sex can't make babies they labeled folks created by those giants again.. as Irish...

You could be more Irish than and probably are more that the figures you calculated indicate.
IF you are screwing as you say... You must be Irish and Irish enough to screw.

Edit: The French bit was just a Justification cuz it fit my situation and God loves me and stuff so he said it was ok... but only in America...

 

[LunarRay]

You all are replying to n256?

Hasn't he proven to be a recalcitrant spam troll already?

Have you never been to the turtle races?.... Without the turtles they'd have to change the name. Turtles are essential to the race... all the turtles are. We know the turtles have turtle minds but it allows us to ignore their mutterings and scream and yell as they meander here and there...

 

[nehalem256]

The Top 8 Ways To Be 'Traditionally Married' According To The Bible

http://www.upworthy.com/the-top-8-ways-to-be-traditionally-married-according-to-the-bible?g=2&c=la2

Are you telling me that I am being denied my right to have a concubine :\

Also, I call BS

man could acquire his wife's property including her slaves

Implying that women could hold property. I think not

 

[cybrsage]

No what we need to do is untangle your interpretation of marriage from religion. Marriage is not a religious construct. They mearly adapted it to their beliefs. It existed long before the bible.

In the US, marriage was clearly a religious institution long before the government violated the Constitution by putting the force of law behind it.

This is easily proven, do you need to me prove people were married in the States prior to the formation of the United States Government?

 

[cybrsage]

I see you still haven't grasped it yet. It's okay. Not everyone is born average.

I agree, I am well above average. It embarasses me slightly that you brought it to everyone's attention, though.

So lets see. We can either force people to accept something that discriminates other people or we can force people to accept something that doesnt discriminate other people . Tough call.

FINALLY! You now admit you are doing the same thing you decry others for doing, which is forcing people to accept your views. Took you long enough to admit what was obvious.

 

[cybrsage]

Do you understand that having rational standards is the foundation of worthwhile opinions? He's not tolerant to a fault. He's rationally tolerant of things that don't impose on his freedom and further, he champions the freedoms of others in the face of irrational bigotry.

When someone is intolerant of the views of another, that person cannot rationally claim to be tolerant of the views of others.

 

[thraashman]

In the US, marriage was clearly a religious institution long before the government violated the Constitution by putting the force of law behind it.

This is easily proven, do you need to me prove people were married in the States prior to the formation of the United States Government?

Do you need to have proved that people were married in native American cultures and that the US government was formed with a decent basis on the Six Nations of the Iriquois Confederacy? You're wrong here. Like in pretty much everything you talk about on his forum.

 

[nehalem256]

Well to borrow liberal logic from this thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2246053&page=6

No, it's a special right. Women simply have control over their bodies, you want men to have a special extra right in addition to having control over their bodies. This is not hard to understand, so I'm not sure what you aren't grasping.

Gay people are asking for a new special right. Society is not obligated to it to them right?

 

[fskimospy]

Well to borrow liberal logic from this thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2246053&page=6

Gay people are asking for a new special right. Society is not obligated to it to them right?

No, you ridiculous idiot. Same sex marriage would be open to everyone. Equality for all.


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[her209]

Gay people are asking for a new special right. Society is not obligated to it to them right?

You're free to get gay married.

:sneaky:

 

[nehalem256]

No, you ridiculous idiot. Same sex marriage would be open to everyone. Equality for all.

Everyone is already free to get a heterosexual marriage. Equality for all :thumbsup:

 

[fskimospy]

Everyone is already free to get a heterosexual marriage. Equality for all :thumbsup:

I'm glad to see that it only took you two posts to realize the point you were trying to make was retarded this time. Gay people are not asking for special rights, they are asking for all people to have the same right to marry the person of their choosing. Truly, equality for all.

 

[thraashman]

Everyone is already free to get a heterosexual marriage. Equality for all :thumbsup:

That's the same argument that was used when interracial marriage was fought against. "Everyone is free to get a heterosexual marriage with someone of the same race". Marriage equality would be that two consenting adults are free to get married.

 

[cybrsage]

Do you need to have proved that people were married in native American cultures and that the US government was formed with a decent basis on the Six Nations of the Iriquois Confederacy? You're wrong here. Like in pretty much everything you talk about on his forum.

Go for it, show the US Government was formed based on the Six Nations of the Iriquios Confederacy.

 

[nehalem256]

I'm glad to see that it only took you two posts to realize the point you were trying to make was retarded this time. Gay people are not asking for special rights, they are asking for all people to have the same right to marry the person of their choosing. Truly, equality for all.

Yes they are. They want same-sex marriage to exist. That is a special right.

 

[her209]

Yes they are. They want same-sex marriage to exist. That is a special right.

Hilarious. Next up, you're going to be convincing us that women's suffrage is a special right. Good one brah.

 

[cybrsage]

That's the same argument that was used when interracial marriage was fought against. "Everyone is free to get a heterosexual marriage with someone of the same race". Marriage equality would be that two consenting adults are free to get married.

Yep, and then new rights were created.

 

[cybrsage]

Hilarious. Next up, you're going to be convincing us that women's suffrage is a special right. Good one brah.

It required an amendment to the Constitution to create the right.

 

[Craig234]

Yes they are. They want same-sex marriage to exist. That is a special right.

I stand by my statement responding to you is a waste of time.

Pointing out that 'equal rights' are not 'special rights' won't get through to you.

And then you say 'they can marry the opposite sex like anyone else'.

Then I say 'ya, like banning interracial marriage isn't discrimination because they can marry anyone of the same race they want like anyone else'.

Pathetic.

 

[shira]

I have to disagree with your criticism of rchiu's very valid argument.

Gays can NOT be allowed to marry until they demonstrate their marriages last.

Kind of a Catch 22.

And of course since we know for sure that marriages involving alcoholics are much less stable than non-alcoholic marriages, we must make it illegal for alcoholics to marry.

 

[HumblePie]

Go for it, show the US Government was formed based on the Six Nations of the Iriquios Confederacy.

Show the Us government was formed around Christians as well as you seem to be stupid enough to put out.

The main reason Europeans came to America was to flee religious persecutions and worship how they want. Many that came here originally were NOT Christians as they were fleeing the Christian churches and their oppression back in Europe at the time.

Some of the "founding fathers" were Christian but most were not.

Again, Marriage has always been a tool of societal government LONG before any religion has been around. The fact that the US government was founded on previous governments is no surprise either. Other governments used marriage thus the US does. There is more proof than that though, but since you seem to be spewing shit out your ass on this topic, I am not going to bother to take the time to lay it all out before you.

 

[LunarRay]

Well to borrow liberal logic from this thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2246053&page=6



Gay people are asking for a new special right. Society is not obligated to it to them right?

Since the SCOTUS holds that under the umbrella of Privacy are some of them Rights thingi... The Right to Marry is right there near The Right to abortion in the first trimester... among others.
[Too bad the ERA didn't get ratified.... it might have settled the issue right then and there... " Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."

In any event, it would seem that without a prohibition for same sex marriage the State ought not be able to deny that. And why they, quick like a bunny, get those prohibitions in law. I would think that silence on the subject gives consent.

 

[alzan]

I'll have to check my bible to see if there's some special dispensation you may be entitled to but suspect that if you are it will require some amount of penance...

Back... It seems that in Numbers there is some reference to Dudeyou'reontome where it speaks to Genesister and some Giants who slept with some chicks... They, the giants, were Irish and from some gay place called Frisco. The chicks, it appears, are the result of the entire town being populated by Adam, Eve and Cain... Six vowels and five constanents in three names beget words like Nicea, Ma and a Dave... WE all know Dave is a bit out of it so... we're left with Nicea and Ma where Constantine Proclaimed Gallic The language of Rome... Now in Gallic some words are the same as the old Latin but have different meanings... Ma historically meant Gay sex.. and Since Gay sex can't make babies they labeled folks created by those giants again.. as Irish...

You could be more Irish than and probably are more that the figures you calculated indicate.
IF you are screwing as you say... You must be Irish and Irish enough to screw.

Edit: The French bit was just a Justification cuz it fit my situation and God loves me and stuff so he said it was ok... but only in America...

I could offer to do the ministrations of the Celtic cross & a dozen Hail O'Leary's if it'll help. I've been a faithful Guinness abuser since before we were married. The wife is tall enough for Harp's but not stout enough for Guinness. Also we both like French ports, like Calais.