Non-exhistant Network

[Raj70]

i have set up the hardware correctly, which consists of a hub and 2 PCs. I have installed the network on both PCs using the network setup wizard. My client PC is recognising the network, however is coming up with the error, saying that there is limited connectivity, when i press repir, it tries to renew the IP address, of which it does not succeed. My main PC is not recognising that there is a network at all, the network is not in the network places, or in network connections. I do not think that there is anything wrong with the hard ware as both computer's lights are lit up on the hub.

even though they are shown as being shared, the shared dowcuments are not showing up on the client pc. In additon any networking features are not working, it does not connect to the internet nor can it use my printer.

On each machine, I did this:

Open a DOS window and type:

IPCONFIG /ALL >C:RESULT.TXT

Form this i got the following results:

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Raj

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



PPP adapter Speedtouch Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.56.34.209

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 62.56.34.209

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 158.152.1.58

158.152.1.43



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%4

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 3E-38-22-D1

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:3e38:22d1::3e38:22d1

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:836b:213c::836b:213c

2002:c058:6301::c058:6301

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 3E-38-22-D1

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:62.56.34.209%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Well, first off, I think it shows that the IPv6 upgrade from Microsoft is installed, I was recommend to uninstall that first. You have nothing that requires IPv6, and it's really not ready for Prime Time IMO.

Next, I noticed that NETBIOS over TCP/IP is disabled everywhere, that's a problem for file/print sharing, it must be enabled on the interface that you connect the other machines to.

So i tried to unistall IPv6, then run MS-KB Q299357 - Reset XP TCP/IP Stack, and start over with the configuration over.

However, I could not find the update on my add or remove programs.

This is where i got stuck, i had no further ideas.

I would greatly appreciate it if any could help me resolve this issue.

Thanks

Raj

 

[amdskip]

What kind of internet connection are you sharing? A hub will not share a cable/dsl connection in most situations as you only get one IP from your ISP to use.

 

[Raj70]

i am using dsl.

However, even if this is true, file and printer sharing is not working either

My computer totally refuses to recognise the pressence of a network

 

[amdskip]

Well with a hub you should set up IP addresses manually. I would look into purchasing a simple 4 port wired router.

 

[JeffMD]

your computers wont see eachother because someone has the ip from the modem, and someone does not. You will then end up with computers on 2 different subnets.

as practice, setup your IPs manually. One computer be 192.0.0.1 and another be 192.0.0.2. subnet mask will be 255.255.255.0 and gateway will be 192.0.0.1

At this point (you should unplug and replug the network to reinit connections again) your computers shoulde beable to ping eachother, and you can see eachothers file shares and printer sharing by typing in a computers ip a \\192.0.0.2\ ect in explorer.

How ever in the end, you are either going to a) Callup and ask your isp for 2 IPs, then you can set each computer up to use DHCP, b) buy a router, or c) buy a 2nd network card for a computer so that it can connect directly to the mode, and then you can invoke network sharing so the 2nd pc on the hub can talk to the net through the first computer.

 

[Raj70]

one problem, im not too sure how to set th IP addresses manually

Also, would the ISP charge extra for this.

If i got a router, i woul dnot need to IP addresses??

Thanks

Raj

 

[Xennon]

To set the IP Address manually you hae to go to Network Connection, START>>Controll Panel>>Network Places.
When in Network Places right click the network icon that say Local Network. After right cliking select propeties, the properties dialog window should pop up. Under the Gneral tab select the Internet Protocal (TCP/IP), then push the prperties button. You should be able to set it there. Make sure to make tthe IP Addesess close.

 

[JeffMD]

There is a good chance your isp would charge about 5 bucks a month for an extra ip.

A router would fix this, escentialy the router grabs the one IP your isp gives, and then sets up a local network with local IPs for all of your computers, and they all access the net through the router. Also since the router has a DHCP server built in, most configuring is compleatly automatic since windows defaults to detecting DHCP server for getting the IP and all that. This is probably the best way to go, cause routers are a nice method of hardware protection. Not quite as strong as a firewall, but most hacker junk on the outside world will get stoped at the router.

 

[Raj70]

i have uninstalled ipv6, but the network does still not operate. My computer still isntshowing a lan connection.

What is interesting though, i ran ipconfig on both computers, mine came up with this:



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Raj

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



PPP adapter Speedtouch Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.56.22.138

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 62.56.22.138

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 158.152.1.58

158.152.1.43

However the PC which recognises the network shows DCHP as enabled.

ANy suggestions??

Thnkas

Raj

 

[Raj70]

In additon, for some reason the lights are not appearing on the hub, only one PC's is appearing (the one that is not giving me trouble)

I know that it is not the wire, beause i have changed the wire, to no avail

Thanks

Raj

 

[SpunkyJones]

Originally posted by: JeffMD
There is a good chance your isp would charge about 5 bucks a month for an extra ip.

A router would fix this, escentialy the router grabs the one IP your isp gives, and then sets up a local network with local IPs for all of your computers, and they all access the net through the router. Also since the router has a DHCP server built in, most configuring is compleatly automatic since windows defaults to detecting DHCP server for getting the IP and all that. This is probably the best way to go, cause routers are a nice method of hardware protection. Not quite as strong as a firewall, but most hacker junk on the outside world will get stoped at the router.

Bingo! Follow this advice, it will make your life easier.