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Nomar to White Sox for Magglio Ordonez?!
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man.. with the addition of ARod, Curt Schilling, and Magglio and with the lack of Manny, it sure is gonna be hard for me to root against the RedSox next year... Arod is the best player in baseball no question, i've always liked him... I've always liked Magglio and have always HATED manny.. Manny is a whining baby.. that's all there is to it...
Several thoughts -
Weaver can pitch -won 17 with the Tigers, which is no small feat - he'll be much better off in the NL and out of NY.
Encarnacion is much better than Jordan was - they should be improved - I'm assuming they are going to play Ventura at 1b, and Green in RF, with Roberts in CF and Encarnacion in LF - that is an improvement from last year.
Also, Dodger fan, you are blessed with the 2 best pitching prospects in ALL of major league baseball, so you have plenty of pitching depth to deal from. If you could deal O.Perez and somehow end up with Nomar that would be quite a feat!
I'll be honest, I'm not sold that the Red Sox are doing much more than PR in this latest round of trades. ARod and Ordonez, if true, aren't much better than Manny and Nomar - are they? Perhaps a bit more power, but lower batting avg...though getting rid of Manny helps in the clubhouse too...I'm not 100% sold that Texas would keep Manny around, though he and Hart at least have a positive relationship.
Foulke is a nice addition for the Red Sox - so much for the committee approach!
Vasquez and Brown, to go with Mussina, still give the Yanks a formidable top 3, and NY has also beefed up its middle relief, which was a weakness last year.
The AL East will again be the premier division in all of baseball, with Toronto improved and Baltimore, which has already added Tejada, looking to add Guererro and Lopez or Pudge, the division only grows stronger...
What is the Yanks payroll up to now anyway? Is 200Mill far off?
Weaver can pitch -won 17 with the Tigers, which is no small feat - he'll be much better off in the NL and out of NY.
Encarnacion is much better than Jordan was - they should be improved - I'm assuming they are going to play Ventura at 1b, and Green in RF, with Roberts in CF and Encarnacion in LF - that is an improvement from last year.
Also, Dodger fan, you are blessed with the 2 best pitching prospects in ALL of major league baseball, so you have plenty of pitching depth to deal from. If you could deal O.Perez and somehow end up with Nomar that would be quite a feat!
I'll be honest, I'm not sold that the Red Sox are doing much more than PR in this latest round of trades. ARod and Ordonez, if true, aren't much better than Manny and Nomar - are they? Perhaps a bit more power, but lower batting avg...though getting rid of Manny helps in the clubhouse too...I'm not 100% sold that Texas would keep Manny around, though he and Hart at least have a positive relationship.
Foulke is a nice addition for the Red Sox - so much for the committee approach!
Vasquez and Brown, to go with Mussina, still give the Yanks a formidable top 3, and NY has also beefed up its middle relief, which was a weakness last year.
The AL East will again be the premier division in all of baseball, with Toronto improved and Baltimore, which has already added Tejada, looking to add Guererro and Lopez or Pudge, the division only grows stronger...
What is the Yanks payroll up to now anyway? Is 200Mill far off?
matt426malm
Golden Member
Yah but who are we going to trade for a crappy run down stadium with vines and lots of beer. 🙂
Weaver used to be able to pitch, but he did well on a bad team. He had one and a half season of pretty putrid pitching. He would do fine for a few innings but then totally collapse just as soon as anything would go wrong. And it wasn't like he was on a team that didn't give him run support. He has talent and good stuff, for the sake of Dodger fans I hope he can get his act together.
No, not quite up to $200 million yet but getting fairly close.
Hell yes!
Todd Walker should have been resigned. I cannot stress how much we overpaid Keith Foulke. The guy choked against us for goodness sake. :frown:
Trade Manny Ramirez, trade Nomar Garciaparra, for Alex Rodriguez. I like both Manny and Nomar but they don't have the leadership that Arod possesses.
Resign Trot Nixon, Jason Varitek, David Ortiz to long term contracts.
Get rid of Gabe Kapler and Jeremy Giambi, Byung Hyun Kim, John Burkett, Scott Williamson, Ramiro Mendoza, and Todd Jones.
Todd Walker should have been resigned. I cannot stress how much we overpaid Keith Foulke. The guy choked against us for goodness sake. :frown:
Trade Manny Ramirez, trade Nomar Garciaparra, for Alex Rodriguez. I like both Manny and Nomar but they don't have the leadership that Arod possesses.
Resign Trot Nixon, Jason Varitek, David Ortiz to long term contracts.
Get rid of Gabe Kapler and Jeremy Giambi, Byung Hyun Kim, John Burkett, Scott Williamson, Ramiro Mendoza, and Todd Jones.
Possible 2004 opening day roster.
Johnny Damon
Bill Mueller
Alex Rodriguez
David Ortiz
Juan Gonzalez?? (if he comes cheap)
Trot Nixon
Kevin Millar
Bill Mueller
Mark Bellhorn 😕
Starting rotation
Pedro Martinez
Curt Schilling
Derek Lowe
Tim Wakefield
??
Setup - Timlin
Closer - Foulke
Johnny Damon
Bill Mueller
Alex Rodriguez
David Ortiz
Juan Gonzalez?? (if he comes cheap)
Trot Nixon
Kevin Millar
Bill Mueller
Mark Bellhorn 😕
Starting rotation
Pedro Martinez
Curt Schilling
Derek Lowe
Tim Wakefield
??
Setup - Timlin
Closer - Foulke
SP33Demon
Lifer
Like I said in an earlier thread, Foulke isn't overpaid, he got 7mil/year and saved 43/45 games. Yes one was blown against the A's, but that was after a 12 pitch battle with Manny blasting a shot to left to tie the game. You can't fault him for that, Manny is a great hitter.
Look at the salary of a couple of other good closers:
Wagner is getting 8 mil, had 44 saves last season. Perceival is getting 7.83 and had 33 saves w/ injury.
Foulke signed for less than both.
In your lineup you listed Mueller twice, and Boston's getting Ordonez not Juan Gone. If Sox still have Kim he will probably be 5th starter over Burkett.
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