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Nokia + Microsoft vs Google vs Apple... let the fight begin!

nublikescake

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More competition = good for us consumers, right?

Nokia needed to move on from SymbianOS anyway. It's really lacking compared to the competition. Windows Mobile can give them the boost that they were looking for. See the analysis at the bottom. Two turkeys...



Nokia and Microsoft form partnership

Nokia has joined forces with Microsoft in an attempt to regain ground lost to Apple and Android-based handsets.

The deal would see Nokia use the Windows phone operating system for its smartphones, the company said.

Microsoft's Bing will power Nokia's search services, while Nokia Maps would be a core part of Microsoft's mapping services.

Earlier this week Nokia chief executive Stephen Elop sent a memo to staff warning that the company was in crisis.

The memo, published first by technology website Engadget, warned that the company was standing on a "burning platform".

The new strategy means Nokia's existing smartphone operating systems will be gradually sidelined.

Symbian, which runs on most of the company's current devices will become a "franchise platform", although the company expects to sell approximately 150 million more Symbian devices in future.

The announcement is widely seen as a response to the growing pressure from other smartphone platforms, including Google's Android and Apple's iPhone.

"This is a clear admission that Nokia's own-platform strategy has faltered," said Ben Wood, an analyst with research firm CCS: Insight.

"Microsoft is the big winner in this deal, but there are no silver bullets for either company given the strength of iPhone and Android," he added.
Nokia's share of the smartphone market fell from 38% to 28% in 2010, according to monitoring firm IDC.

Nokia's upcoming Meego operating system also appears to have been sidelined, to some extent.

According to the company statement: "MeeGo will place increased emphasis on longer-term market exploration of next-generation devices."
The new platform was expected to form the core of Nokia's future smartphone and tablet strategy.

The company says it still plans to ship one Meego device by the end of 2011.

For Magnus Rehle, the Nordic managing director of research firm Greenwich Consulting, Nokia may have difficulty juggling its three operating systems: Windows, Symbian and MeeGo.

"Three platforms is a lot to work with. I'm not sure there is room for so many platforms," he said.

And, as with any tie-up, there could be clashes between the two firms.
"Elop has to convince the best people to stay and some people will inevitably be jumping off the burning platform," he said.


Rory Cellan-Jones Technology correspondent, BBC News
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"So Stephen Elop has pushed Nokia off that now infamous burning platform he described to staff some days ago and into the unknown.
His chosen lifebelt is Windows Phone 7, a new smartphone operating system that has won critical praise but, so far at least, only a tiny share of the market.

So Nokia is moving from an ailing system Symbian - which still has a large chunk of the market - to a fledgeling which has yet to prove itself, made by a firm with a poor track record in mobile.

Why then, did Mr Elop not opt to go with Google's Android, the operating system with momentum behind it? Perhaps he feels more comfortable with the culture of Microsoft, where he worked until joining Nokia.

The cruel verdict from some is that two turkeys don't make an eagle - but you can't fault Mr Elop for his audacity. This is a huge moment which could shape the future of an industry."
 
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I think that Nokia is doing a lot better than people realize. They might not be a leader in smartphones yet, but they produce and sell more entry level camera phones around the world than anyone else does.

I would have preferred if they started making Android phones to catch up in the smartphone space, but it anyone can pull off a good Windows 7 phone it will be them.
 
Yeah I don't know, everything I hear is either about iphones or android. Hardly hear anything about win7 mobile
 
I think that Nokia is doing a lot better than people realize. They might not be a leader in smartphones yet, but they produce and sell more entry level camera phones around the world than anyone else does.

I would have preferred if they started making Android phones to catch up in the smartphone space, but it anyone can pull off a good Windows 7 phone it will be them.

In 5 years, smartphones will have a larger volume than "camera phones". The smartphone of today is the entry-level phone of 5 years in the future.

The whole point is that Nokia is doing terribly because they aren't prepared for that. When the current "camera phone" dies off and is replaced by cheap smartphones, they will have nothing to offer. Suddenly their ~$20 billion in revenue disappears.
 
I think that Nokia is doing a lot better than people realize. They might not be a leader in smartphones yet, but they produce and sell more entry level camera phones around the world than anyone else does.

Hello.. US =/= world.

If you take world into consideration, Nokia is the leader in smartphone sales.. although the sales are decreasing pretty fast. IIRC Andriod over took symbian as the most popular OS in 2010.. but overall.. Nokia sold more smartphones than any other cellphone maker.
 
I got my first smartphone back in 2004 to get stock quotes at work (ipaq 6315). Ive been loyal to MS ever since. Might consider Nokia, but I love HTC.
 
Windows 7 is pretty neat, but I don't think this was the best decision for Nokia for the long term. On the other hand, they probably don't want to be Yet Another Android Handset Maker, but they really better incentivize people to develop for W7 or they're done.
 
Windows 7 is pretty neat, but I don't think this was the best decision for Nokia for the long term. On the other hand, they probably don't want to be Yet Another Android Handset Maker, but they really better incentivize people to develop for W7 or they're done.
I think it's a good move. It combines a great hardware company with a great software company. Microsoft has a nice ecosystem with the Zune Marketplace and Xbox Live. There is room for a few app stores in the market, but you're talking a fifth app store if Nokia tried it on their own. Apple, Android, Zune, HP/webOs being the more developed players. From what I've heard, Microsoft really is supporting WP7 developers and game integration with Xbox Live really is going to be a huge selling point in the future.
 
I'll be honest this could be exactly what Microsoft needs to get back into the smartphone game. Good move if they work together properly. The whole Live account thing can go far if MS does a good job at tying together all their platforms. I see a lot of potential for Microsoft in the future, I'm just hoping their slow moving ways don't dampen it.
 
Uh.. with Windows 7 and Kinect I have to disagree. Both are phenomenal products

Fixing the fuck up that is Vista was going to sell of course. Verdict is too early on Kinect. Everyone I know who got on at Christmas has it collecting dust.
 
I'm all for this. Competition is good and this seems like a good marriage of two capable companies (both of whom are lagging in the mobile department at the moment).
 
Nokia has the license to customize WP7. Actually, they claim they'll be working in partnership with MS to that purpose. So, I'm aready assuming that the WP7 OS we'll find on Nokia phones will be to some degree different (albait compatible, I really hope) from the one on other hardware producers.

I also think it will be quite likely we'll see other features I can't really understand why are currently missing in WP7, such as thetering and Sync with Outlook.
In other words, I think this degree of exclusivity may be enough to generate that uniqueness that is indeed needed to compete against the iPhone.

Check this to see what other developers have to say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfWFvCJJaNs
 
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