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Nokia Lumia 1520 "Bandit" - 6.0" display, 1080p, 20-MP camera

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It's rumoured that Nokia is releasing the new massive phone at the end of September. Great news for everyone who has been waiting on a quad-core, 1080p phablet Windows Phone with a great camera. It looks like it's running GDR3 with support for an additional column of tiles (makes sense for the larger high-res screen).

We've been hearing rumors of a Nokia phablet for a while now, so it's good to finally see it confirmed, at least by a leaked image and specs. The phone will probably be officially announced only after IFA - which is next week - so there will be a ton of new Android phones out on the market before it releases. Still, it's good to see Nokia continuing to update their range of phones and challenge the other manufacturers on other platforms. Even at half the resolution of the 1020, this phone should take fantastic shots.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57600544-94/nokia-lumia-1520-smartphone-sighting-in-leaked-photo/

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In the US, I'd expect it to be available only on AT&T and maybe (maybe) Tmobile.

Not interested until WP8.1. Microsoft is the biggest thing holding Nokia back right now.
 
bearxor said:
Not interested until WP8.1. Microsoft is the biggest thing holding Nokia back right now.
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Exactly. If MS could at least figure out a way to do 2 significant updates a year, Nokia could have a lot more momentum. Right now, if you buy any WP, it's the same exact thing from smallest device to largest. There really is barely anything differentiating them from each other. What I mean is that the OS is so optimized that it just doesn't matter what CPU/GPU is in there right now.

Also, 1080p almost certainly means the GDR3 update or WP8.1 will be out very, very soon as WP doesn't support 1080p or quad-cores currently.

One more thing, in a way, Nokia is the Samsung of the Windows Phone world. They've released... 18 Windows Phones (that I could find) since the OS came out. They aren't as bad in that they release 100 phones in a year, but they're pushing out their devices quickly.

What's everyone's thoughts on Nokia using Android as their primary OS? Do you think they would be able to push Samsung out of the way with their superb build quality, hardware, and camera technology or would they get lost in the shuffle of every other manufacturer? I think they could easily be top dog in the Android world, but that's a completely different timeline it would be in.
 
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While I like the Nokia build quality I find their phones to be a tad on the larger side of what I like.

Take the Lumia 920 or 928 for example. The phones are brick-like to me and large for the screen size. If they could make the phone a bit lighter and smaller with the same screen size I think it'd fair extremely well. Much nicer than the Samsung phones that are going out.
 
dlock13 said:
Also, 1080p almost certainly means the GDR3 update or WP8.1 will be out very, very soon as WP doesn't support 1080p or quad-cores currently.

One more thing, in a way, Nokia is the Samsung of the Windows Phone world. They've released... 18 Windows Phones (that I could find) since the OS came out. They aren't as bad in that they release 100 phones in a year, but they're pushing out their devices quickly.

What's everyone's thoughts on Nokia using Android as their primary OS? Do you think they would be able to push Samsung out of the way with their superb build quality, hardware, and camera technology or would they get lost in the shuffle of every other manufacturer? I think they could easily be top dog in the Android world, but that's a completely different timeline it would be in.
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This will certainly require GDR3 at the very least. If I had to guess, the SoC in this device will probably be a Snapdragon 800.

Nokia hasn't been flooding the market with Windows Phone devices to quite the same extent as Samsung does with Android. Yes, there are 18 unique Lumia model numbers, but when you consider different carrier-exclusive variants as a single device (such as 810/820/822 or 920/925/928), you realize there are really only 11 unique Lumia devices right now.

Nokia would've likely crashed and burned in the Android market. When they adopted Windows Phone, they needed the money that Microsoft was supplying them pretty badly - I really don't think Google would've done them the same service. The Android market also happens to be extremely saturated at this point. Android also wouldn't have allowed for Nokia to push absurdly low price points (Lumia 520 at $100) while retaining respectable performance.

One thing I do find humorous is that an above poster mentioned that hardware didn't really seem to matter with Windows Phone 8 - and it almost seemed like they viewed that as a bad thing!
 
saratoga172 said:
While I like the Nokia build quality I find their phones to be a tad on the larger side of what I like.

Take the Lumia 920 or 928 for example. The phones are brick-like to me and large for the screen size. If they could make the phone a bit lighter and smaller with the same screen size I think it'd fair extremely well. Much nicer than the Samsung phones that are going out.
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Lumia 925

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Just thought I'd point out that comparing screen sizes between a GS4, One, and Lumia 925 isn't entirely fair. The One and GS4 don't have the same aspect ratio as the Lumia 925. "4.5 inches" vs. "5 inches" doesn't really mean much without that context.
 
I really don't think MS could have picked a better partner than Nokia for WP. And to the reality that Nokia is becoming the de facto hardware supplier for the platform, I say all the better. They are making consistently excellent hardware and doing it across a very broad price spectrum. Not to mention the software they've developed for the platform - it really is second to none.
 
GTRagnarok said:
^ Doesn't that prove his point? For a 4.5" phone, it's about the same size as 5" Galaxy S4.
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It might be hard to see in the photo, but the S4 is a little taller.
There's less bezel on the S4 to be sure, though.
I'd take the 925 over the S4's body because in my experience the Lumias have a better look and feel than the Samsung phones, and pretty good durability even if they are a bit, uh, chubbier. 😀

Lumia 925: 5.08 x 2.78 x 0.33 in,
S4: 5.38 x 2.75 x 0.31 in
 
Way too big for me, but more power to them.

I will agree that I feel like the bezel on my 928 could stand to be a bit slimmer but that's a pretty minor complaint to me.
 
It seems like Nokia does not understand that larger screened phones need way less bezel, not the same thick bezel as their smaller models...
 
Red Storm said:
It seems like Nokia does not understand that larger screened phones need way less bezel, not the same thick bezel as their smaller models...
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You need the same or more bezel on the top and bottom because you're going to be using a phablet a lot in horizontal mode.
 
PingviN said:
You need the same or more bezel on the top and bottom because you're going to be using a phablet a lot in horizontal mode.
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I was talking about the sides actually, guess I should have been more specific.

You definitely don't need more bezel on the top or bottom.
 
Is that a 920 next to it? Good grief that's huge. I had a 920 and moved over to a Note 2. The Note 2 is lighter and easier to hold than the 920 was. I can't even imagine the ergonomics of this thing. Let alone the weight.

Do you even lift bro?
 
I don't really understand complaints about weight. I understand that the phone may be too large, but heavy? Even particularly heavy phones (like the Lumia 920) are pretty hard to notice. The Lumia 520 I'm currently using feels like a toy compared to my Lumia 920.
 
pantsaregood said:
I don't really understand complaints about weight. I understand that the phone may be too large, but heavy? Even particularly heavy phones (like the Lumia 920) are pretty hard to notice. The Lumia 520 I'm currently using feels like a toy compared to my Lumia 920.
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Well, the thing is if it's that large and maintains the weight to size ratio of the Lumia 920/928/1020/etc.. then expect this thing to weigh a massive amount and be one heavy beast to hold though I could be wrong. Given Nokia's past with their flagship devices and their weight, it's a huge possibility.
 
dlock13 said:
Well, the thing is if it's that large and maintains the weight to size ratio of the Lumia 920/928/1020/etc.. then expect this thing to weigh a massive amount and be one heavy beast to hold though I could be wrong. Given Nokia's past with their flagship devices and their weight, it's a huge possibility.
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This isn't likely to be the case. The Lumia 925, 928, and 1020 are all lighter than the "monstrous" 920.

If we look at the case of the Lumia 925 vs. Lumia 1520, we observe that the screen is 71% larger in surface area. Assuming that the Lumia 1520 retains a design language similar to the Lumia 925, we can expect similar thickness.

Assuming the weight of the phone scales linearly (it is likely less than a linear relation), we can set a likely upper bound for the weight of the Lumia 1520 at 238g. That said, I would honestly expect it to come out significantly lighter than that.
 
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This isn't likely to be the case. The Lumia 925, 928, and 1020 are all lighter than the "monstrous" 920.

If we look at the case of the Lumia 925 vs. Lumia 1520, we observe that the screen is 71% larger in surface area. Assuming that the Lumia 1520 retains a design language similar to the Lumia 925, we can expect similar thickness.

Assuming the weight of the phone scales linearly (it is likely less than a linear relation), we can set a likely upper bound for the weight of the Lumia 1520 at 238g. That said, I would honestly expect it to come out significantly lighter than that.
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Thank you for doing that math for me whilst I'm at work. The Nexus 7 (2013) is 290 g according to Google's spec listing. Like you said, it's probably going to weigh a bit less than the 238 you listed so it definitely isn't as bad as I first anticipated.
 
Posting this on the Lumia 928, this is actually a pretty nice device. The phone has a slab like feel to it that reminds me of some Moto phones. I am curious to see this new phablet, wonder if it will be thinner?
 
Crono said:
Lumia 925

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I see the 925 is slightly smaller. Bezel is still a touch large but I'd take it over the S4 body all things being equal. I like the lightness of the S4 but it feels flimsy thin and I much prefer the build and tougher feel of Nokia and LCD screens to amoled. Personal preference though.

Also keep in mind it's all subjective. I prefer smaller phones to bigger any day of the week. I'm typing this on an iPhone 5 right now. Meets all my needs but a 4.3 would be about perfect for me I think. They could slightly decrease bezel on top and bottom.

But overall I like the build of certain phones. I sported the lumia 928 for a few weeks and adjusted to it. Nice phone and device. Felt solid. But so heavy and thick. Wasn't a huge fan of how it felt in my pocket.

GTRagnarok said:
^ Doesn't that prove his point? For a 4.5" phone, it's about the same size as 5" Galaxy S4.
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That's more what I was getting at. I don't need a 5" phone but a 4.5 I'd prefer be slightly smaller and lighter compared to what it is currently.
 
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