No wonder Obama is so unpopular.....

JEDIYoda

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I always wondered how Obama could be so unpopular. Mind you I voted for him 2 times.....I know fool me once.....fool me twice....lolol

I have to agree with Letterman -- Being President is a lonely gig!!

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/no-wonder-the-guy-so-unpopular

David Letterman’s monologue last night included some observations that stood out for me:

“This is what happens when we have the midterm elections. The Republicans, of course, have turned against Obama, and the Democrats have also turned against Obama. That’s a lonely, lonely gig being president, ladies and gentlemen.


“Take a look at this: gas under $3 a gallon – under $3 a gallon. Unemployment under 6%, whoever thought? Stock market breaking records every day. No wonder the guy is so unpopular.”
As the saying goes, it’s funny because it’s true.

In the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, respondents were asked, “All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in the right direction, or do you feel that things are off on the wrong track?” The good news: the “right direction” number inched to a six-month high. The bad news: the overall results were lopsided, with 63% of Americans believing the country is on the wrong track, and only 27% believing the opposite. Other recent national polling found very similar results.

And with so much of the country in a dour, pessimistic mood, much of the electorate is blaming President Obama, whether or not that makes sense.


Indeed, over the last several months, countless hours of attack ads have aired, hammering home a simple Republican message: “You should hate the president and vote accordingly against everyone in his party.” The pushback from Democrats, defending the president and the White House’s popular policy agenda? Well, that never really happened this year. The political results were predictable.


But this only helps underscore why Letterman’s quip is memorable: there’s reason for some national optimism. Voters just haven’t heard much about it.

There is more... http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/no-wonder-the-guy-so-unpopular
 

Moonbeam

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In a world full of shit throwing apes, the shit throwing apes win. It's always easier to tear down than to build. The CBD is only interested in the destruction of the enemy, even when the enemy is the nation itself. There is no greater manifestation of imbecilic moronic irony than the desire to become the government you hold in contempt at the cost of making yourself contemptible.
 

nageov3t

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I too have seen that Facebook meme.

tbh, it's hard caring too much about the stock market and unemployment rate when we still have flat wage growth and a huge amount of people giving up and leaving the workforce (driving down the unemployment #'s since they're no longer actively looking for work)
 

Pneumothorax

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Maybe it's because food is still hella expensive, houses are still underwater, and our paychecks are still smaller than before 2009?
 

Newell Steamer

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Yeah, yeah, yeah,... whatever good news you post about Obama, is not REALLY good news,.. because;

1) 'creative' accounting
2) you need to provide the proof, of what Obama did exactly, to deserve credit for those benefits
3) you are dumb for believing what the news tells you
4) you linked MSNBC, we all know that stands for Must Suck Not Baseball Cows,.. they are NOT a real news outlet
5) Benghazi
6) Barack Hussein Obama
7) ,... BLAAAAARRRRGGHHH!!!
8) <reserved for something I am sure I forgot>
9) I heard a guy, that has a brother, that once dated a gal, that lived across the street from a family that was once at a picnic where the cook was once on a bus and he overheard someone say that Obama was bad for this country
10) ,.. did we mention Benghazi??
 

PokerGuy

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Looking at three numbers without any context (gas price, unemployment rate and the stock market levels) is meaningless and stupid. You need more context and more complete information to understand what (if anything) they mean. Not only that, but assigning blame or credit for such things to one person (be it the president or anyone else) is generally also stupid. There is much more that goes into it.

So basically, the public generally feels the country is on the wrong track (and I agree with that sentiment by the way), and anecdotal information about the price of gas or stock market levels means nothing.
 

JEDIYoda

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You see for me the thread was well shall we say a reason to allow certain people who I knew would foam at the mouth the opportunity to bad mouth our President a chance to increase their post count.

One question for you Steamer Newell.....
Would you hold a republican president up to the same scrutiny.....

Yeah, yeah, yeah,... whatever good news you post about Obama, is not REALLY good news,.. because;

1) 'creative' accounting
2) you need to provide the proof, of what Obama did exactly, to deserve credit for those benefits
3) you are dumb for believing what the news tells you
4) you linked MSNBC, we all know that stands for Must Suck Not Baseball Cows,.. they are NOT a real news outlet
5) Benghazi
6) Barack Hussein Obama
7) ,... BLAAAAARRRRGGHHH!!!
8) <reserved for something I am sure I forgot>
9) I heard a guy, that has a brother, that once dated a gal, that lived across the street from a family that was once at a picnic where the cook was once on a bus and he overheard someone say that Obama was bad for this country
10) ,.. did we mention Benghazi??
 

fskimospy

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Looking at three numbers without any context (gas price, unemployment rate and the stock market levels) is meaningless and stupid. You need more context and more complete information to understand what (if anything) they mean. Not only that, but assigning blame or credit for such things to one person (be it the president or anyone else) is generally also stupid. There is much more that goes into it.

So basically, the public generally feels the country is on the wrong track (and I agree with that sentiment by the way), and anecdotal information about the price of gas or stock market levels means nothing.

The stock market level, unemployment, and the average price of gas are not anecdotal information.

Otherwise, I agree that numbers need more context. In particular, low levels of unemployment like this generally coincide with rising wages, which is a decent contributor to people feeling better about the economic situation of the country. It looks as if wages will finally start to move up now, but it hasn't happened yet.

Rightly or wrongly (wrongly), people attribute the economic performance of the country to the president.
 

Newell Steamer

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Eeeew...stepped in a newell steamer again ;)

Your wonderful insight and brilliant observations are on full display again. Carry on.

You are grown man, who has exhibited quite a few times a severe lack of logic, common sense and comprehension of basic concepts of math: this is not a "brilliant" observation,.. it is a sad one.

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Remobz

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You see for me the thread was well shall we say a reason to allow certain people who I knew would foam at the mouth the opportunity to bad mouth our President a chance to increase their post count.

One question for you Steamer Newell.....
Would you hold a republican president up to the same scrutiny.....

Yeah, yeah, yeah,... whatever good news you post about Obama, is not REALLY good news,.. because;

1) 'creative' accounting
2) you need to provide the proof, of what Obama did exactly, to deserve credit for those benefits
3) you are dumb for believing what the news tells you
4) you linked MSNBC, we all know that stands for Must Suck Not Baseball Cows,.. they are NOT a real news outlet
5) Benghazi
6) Barack Hussein Obama
7) ,... BLAAAAARRRRGGHHH!!!
8) <reserved for something I am sure I forgot>
9) I heard a guy, that has a brother, that once dated a gal, that lived across the street from a family that was once at a picnic where the cook was once on a bus and he overheard someone say that Obama was bad for this country
10) ,.. did we mention Benghazi??

The Jews hate Obama and want to bring him down every chance they get.
 

Lash444

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You know how you know when the country is doing better?

When the opposing side says that its stupid to blame or give credit to one man only.
 

fskimospy

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Why is Obama unpopular?

Bull market

Employment getting better

Not enough wage growth

Gas prices below $3

Hussein Obama

Assad still in power

Zero action on immigration

Inflation is low
 

PokerGuy

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You know how you know when the country is doing better?

When the opposing side says that its stupid to blame or give credit to one man only.

Yeah, except the "opposition" -- or rather, me -- has been saying that forever, decades before your wonderful messiah came to the white house. It's simple logic.
 

Newell Steamer

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One question for you Steamer Newell.....
Would you hold a republican president up to the same scrutiny.....

Where and when deserved, within a sane and reasonable frame of criteria, yes I will. Sure, I may ask for 'stupid' little things like arrest records, trails, convictions and time served in prison (for example),.. but, yes, I would need proof and backing to some claims.

Most of Obama's critics do not even know WHAT they are complaining about - or, what they are even asking to be backed. They are just (to borrow Moonbeam's phrase) shit throwing apes.

And, on thew subject of what is deserved, I've bashed Obama on two issues:
1) ACA - no matter the success stories, it's frankly not good enough; he should have fought for Universal Healthcare.
2) Syria - the secret aid sent to the "rebels" in Aug '12 could have very well been one of the elements that created ISIS.

This man is not walking away with a perfect record - oh no. But, he certainly is not the monster the shit throwing apes are trying to make him out to be.
 

doubledeluxe

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Its better than under bush but in no way should people be excited about the direction we're going.

Obama always had an uphill struggle because he had to correct the ship after dumbass bush. Unfortunately he didn't do enough.
 

PokerGuy

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The stock market level, unemployment, and the average price of gas are not anecdotal information.

Yes, they are anecdotal in the sense that they are cherry-picked data points out of a large pool of possible data points that might have predictive value with regard to how the populace feels about the direction of the country and it's leadership.

It looks as if wages will finally start to move up now, but it hasn't happened yet.

I hope you're right, but I doubt it. We'll see.

Rightly or wrongly (wrongly), people attribute the economic performance of the country to the president.

Agreed, people assign too much blame or credit to the sitting president, and there are many reasons why that doesn't make sense, but they do.
 

BoberFett

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Hooray for chain email.

If we took a snapshot of Dubya's terms, we would have cheap gas, low unemployment, and a booming stock market too.

Guess he should have been very popular.
 
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Spungo

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&#8220;Take a look at this: gas under $3 a gallon &#8211; under $3 a gallon.

The price of oil is usually an indicator of the economy. In Obama's earlier years, conservatives were giving "credit" to Bush for running the price of oil (aka the economy) into the ground:

crude-oil-prices-by-the-what-matters-weblog-1998-2009-monthly-averages-data-by-the-eia-updated-may-162009.jpg



Obama doesn't deserve credit or blame for the oil price. It's just a natural side effect of a global depression. Japan has ramped up QE because their economy sucks, Europe is still a total disaster, China is crumbling (the bill for those ghost cities finally arrived).

Other reasons he's unpopular:
home ownership at 19 year lows
top 0.1% own as much as the bottom 90%
declining wages
business startups at 30 year lows
 

Londo_Jowo

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Let me get this straight, Obama worked with the Saudis to get them to reduce their oil prices which resulted in lower gas prices and effectively reduced output from US oil sources.

Hooray for chain email.

If we took a snapshot of Dubya's terms, we could would have cheap gas, low unemployment, and a booming stock market too.

Guess he should have been very popular.

LMAO!!!! So true.
 

JEDIYoda

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You see for me the thread was well shall we say a reason to allow certain people who I knew would foam at the mouth the opportunity to bad mouth our President a chance to increase their post count.

So don`t quote me...quote the article......

I was doing a public service to allow peoples post counts to get higher...
 

cubby1223

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The day a Republican gives a Democrat credit for anything is the day a Democrat gives a Republican credit for anything. It ain't happening on either side.
 

cubby1223

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But the truth of the matter is, Obama does not want people on the right of the political spectrum to like him. Obama's best skills are in adversarial politics, the same game the GOP is playing. Having "the right" not like him is precisely how Obama thrives.
 
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rudder

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Why is Obama unpopular?

Bull market

Thank you Federal Reserve bank for pulling $4 trillion+ out of your ass

Employment getting better

Wages are stagnant. Lots of people employed part-time who want full-time work. Labor participation rate still at historic lows.

Not enough wage growth



Gas prices below $3

Gas was under $2 when Obama took office. It has been above $3 for a helluva long time. There are a lot of reasons why the price of oil is dropping.... None of which Obama had a hand in...but will that stop lefties from taking credit?

Hussein Obama

Sheesh.

Assad still in power

Too long to do into detail about obama's failures in the Middle East. I mean just take a look at how Libya is doing. They have copied the Somalian government model.

Zero action on immigration

Plenty of action on immigration. Kids are pouring over the border. Adults in Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras have been given amnesty if they have a parent in the U.S.

Inflation is low
Strange how I that happens after the Feds put so much money into the economy. What's the flood of cash is released by the financial institutions who benefited from QE almost infinity.. We will see.