No thread on the democratic debate?

Linux23

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I guess not. I had to spend time with the GF so I missed it. Thanks for the link. Watching it now.
 

compuwiz1

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I caught a snippet. Hillary was on some kind of a rant about stopping gun manufacturing in the USA. Fuck that!

I don't trust that woman at all, especially with my 2nd amendment.
 

Hugo Drax

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Why, its just going to be softball questions to make sure Hillary looks good.
 

trenchfoot

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I would have but I've been working this whole weekend. Someone post some highlights.

Same here. I just got off from a 24 hr. shift a few hours ago. Happens once in a great while but damn it's pretty disorienting.

ivwshane thanks for the link.:thumbsup:

G'nite.
 

Moonbeam

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I watched the CNN 3 min version. Bernie said he's a one issue candidate, restoring the Middle Class. Hillary says he's a one trick pony and voted to shut down the car industry. Bernie will probably win because you have to be able to think to see the real issues.
 

JSt0rm

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I caught a snippet. Hillary was on some kind of a rant about stopping gun manufacturing in the USA. Fuck that!

I don't trust that woman at all, especially with my 2nd amendment.

omg. We will miss your vote.
 

JSt0rm

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Same here. I just got off from a 24 hr. shift a few hours ago. Happens once in a great while but damn it's pretty disorienting.

ivwshane thanks for the link.:thumbsup:

G'nite.

tweaker is a good name for you then,
 

JSt0rm

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So you would of voted for Clinton if she didn't want to go after gun makers?
 

SP33Demon

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Hillary will cave to gun regulation PC FUD. No thank you, and no thank you to higher taxes for her "free college education for all" handouts. Obama eroded middle class wealth with obamacare and now hillary is attempting to do even more damage. How long until you middle class Dem's actually stand up for your paycheck? Or are you willing to keep conceding 5% here, 5% there until we are paying as much as much as the EU in taxes? Give an inch, our "loyal" politicians will take a mile. It's not even about the Dems vs the Repubs but the middle class vs the government. They will always be trying to get their hand on your wallets, that is the part people don't understand. Because the poor don't offer them anything but something to make your heart bleed, and the rich are the ones benefiting from the stat quo and trying to push you (the middle class) away from them even further in the form of more taxes.
 

soundforbjt

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Hillary will cave to gun regulation PC FUD. No thank you, and no thank you to higher taxes for her "free college education for all" handouts. Obama eroded middle class wealth with obamacare and now hillary is attempting to do even more damage. How long until you middle class Dem's actually stand up for your paycheck? Or are you willing to keep conceding 5% here, 5% there until we are paying as much as much as the EU in taxes? Give an inch, our "loyal" politicians will take a mile. It's not even about the Dems vs the Repubs but the middle class vs all of the politicians. They will always be trying to get their hand on your wallets, that is the part people don't understand.

Where's the money coming from to build up the military that all R candidates are talking about? Have any of them addressed that?
 

ivwshane

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Hillary will cave to gun regulation PC FUD. No thank you, and no thank you to higher taxes for her "free college education for all" handouts. Obama eroded middle class wealth with obamacare and now hillary is attempting to do even more damage. How long until you middle class Dem's actually stand up for your paycheck? Or are you willing to keep conceding 5% here, 5% there until we are paying as much as much as the EU in taxes? Give an inch, our "loyal" politicians will take a mile. It's not even about the Dems vs the Repubs but the middle class vs the government. They will always be trying to get their hand on your wallets, that is the part people don't understand. Because the poor don't offer them anything but something to make your heart bleed, and the rich are the ones benefiting from the stat quo and trying to push you (the middle class) away from them even further in the form of more taxes.

You have the shiniest brain I have ever seen! I'm guessing it's from all that brainwashing you've been subjected to.
 

ivwshane

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Where's the money coming from to build up the military that all R candidates are talking about? Have any of them addressed that?

It's nothing! It'll costs less than all that free College the dems keep talking about!
/s
 

SP33Demon

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Where's the money coming from to build up the military that all R candidates are talking about? Have any of them addressed that?
Some ways:
[CNBC economist] Kudlow said he found Trump’s platform very agreeable to free-market growth: “He has a very good corporate tax-cut plan, across the board, for large companies and small companies. He’s got a 15 percent rate — we’re about 35 to 40 percent now.”

“So let’s say that became law,” Kudlow continued. “You’d see a movement, a tremendous movement, of capital and labor back to the United States, that’s in China and overseas, because we’d have a more hospitable business tax environment. You include immediate deductions for new business investment, and you include repatriation, which is all in Trump’s plan, and you’ve got yourself a powerful incentive to move back to the USA.”


Kudlow thought such “incentive economics” were better tools than the tariffs Trump has proposed for punishing businesses that move overseas, preferring carrots to sticks. However, he agreed that stern measures were needed to deal with China, which Bannon described as a “mercantilist society” — the government actively harming foreign competition to give native industries an edge.

So lower business tax rate will bring companies back to the U.S., and he can smack China's hand with tariffs to bring some manufacturing back.

I agree that our military needs a little more funding, they've been getting reduced every year since 2010 (almost 800 billion).
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Defense budget is lower than Reagan-era levels. I'd bring it up to $600 billion at least.
 

SP33Demon

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You have the shiniest brain I have ever seen! I'm guessing it's from all that brainwashing you've been subjected to.
You should paypal me 5% of your annual salary instead of giving it to hillary's higher taxes. I'd do something better with it than your heroes, like donate it to DC Central Kitchen. Giving it to entitled millennials for "free college" isn't the answer.
 

compuwiz1

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Where's the money coming from to build up the military that all R candidates are talking about? Have any of them addressed that?

Cutting off the moochers, that are at an all time high under Obama's administration. Let's take a look at what disability really means. There are people who are drawing disability, who park in the handicap parking and pay with EBT cards, but they don't seem to limp too much, once they start shopping. Just because someone has a degree of physical impairment doesn't mean they can't do something. They can do many things that don't require walking or much physical activity. There are people who make conscious choices not to work and make those who do, take care of them. Weed them out and make them earn their pay. Get rid of fraudulent, wasteful government spending.

Create a work for gain society again. Make it illegal for politicians to gain votes by promising free things. Make people understand that life is not fair and nobody is entitled to anything. If it's to be it's up to me. DO NOT get rid of social safety nets to take care of those who cannot help themselves.

I have a cousin, bless her heart, who got involved with a guy who moved to Montana, to be with her. He is supposedly some kind of engineer, who got laid off. He ran out all his unemployment, then refused any job that didn't meet his standards, creating a lot of hardship for the family. I'm sorry, but you take what jobs you can find and you take care of your family! In the end, he found a doctor who could make a case that he had enough physical impairment to collect disability. Well, he doesn't have problems riding dirt bikes, hiking, fishing, or cutting wood to build a barn. He doesn't have any problems digging post holes and mixing concrete. He doesn't like me very much.
 

soundforbjt

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Cutting off the moochers, that are at an all time high under Obama's administration. Let's take a look at what disability really means. There are people who are drawing disability, who park in the handicap parking and pay with EBT cards, but they don't seem to limp too much, once they start shopping. Just because someone has a degree of physical impairment doesn't mean they can't do something. They can do many things that don't require walking or much physical activity. There are people who make conscious choices not to work and make those who do, take care of them. Weed them out and make them earn their pay. Get rid of fraudulent, wasteful government spending.

Create a work for gain society again. Make it illegal for politicians to gain votes by promising free things. Make people understand that life is not fair and nobody is entitled to anything. If it's to be it's up to me. DO NOT get rid of social safety nets to take care of those who cannot help themselves.

I have a cousin, bless her heart, who got involved with a guy who moved to Montana, to be with her. He is supposedly some kind of engineer, who got laid off. He ran out all his unemployment, then refused any job that didn't meet his standards, creating a lot of hardship for the family. I'm sorry, but you take what jobs you can find and you take care of your family! In the end, he found a doctor who could make a case that he had enough physical impairment to collect disability. Well, he doesn't have problems riding dirt bikes, hiking, fishing, or cutting wood to build a barn. He doesn't have any problems digging post holes and mixing concrete. He doesn't like me very much.

So, the old republican favorite to go with Trump's use of Reagan's first campaign slogan...The Welfare Queen. You guys can't come up with anything new even with a supposed outsider as a candidate.

You won't get enough money to build up the military that they're talking about with the amount you'd get in actual fraud savings. So try again. where's the money coming from?
 

ivwshane

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Some ways:


So lower business tax rate will bring companies back to the U.S., and he can smack China's hand with tariffs to bring some manufacturing back.

I agree that our military needs a little more funding, they've been getting reduced every year since 2010 (almost 800 billion).
bg-defense-spending-fy-2016-chart-2-825.ashx


Defense budget is lower than Reagan-era levels. I'd bring it up to $600 billion at least.

LOL! You know you've gone full retard when you are comparing marginal rates and effective rates and claiming the difference would bring economic prosperity the likes of which have never been seen due to any tax cut in history.

Btw, fluffer, currently the effective tax rate for corporations is around 13%!
So your boy either plans on raising taxes, duping you one again, or he thinks that raising taxes will also bring in more money and businesses back to the US, which totally contradicts how you think economics works.

Starting a trade war with the second largest economy and one that we need more than they need us also seems like a really good idea! Well, to a trump fluffer like yourself;)
 

SP33Demon

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It takes a especial kind of troll to call economist Larry Kudlow a retard. Only from you 'free college' Dems. I've never seen anyone go full retard before like you. Just quit while you're ahead.