No Tag 4 U!

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Aharami
if you homeschool, your kids wont get ANY social interaction. as opposed to the little they would be getting in a school. homeschooling is not the answer, IMO, for parents who dont support this ban. Those parents who are afraid their kids getting hurt while paying tag should be the ones who homeschool.

You're lucky there aren't many homeschool parents here, because you just opened a can of worms!

Not that I disagree with you entirely, all of the former homeschooled kids I knew in college were a bit odd.

I'm close to a family who homeschools their kids, and they are FREAKS. The parents are control freaks and the kids are CLUELESS and totally IGNORANT.

I won't paint the whole homeschooling bunch with that brush, but my interactions with homeschooled families has been less than positive.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
Originally posted by: Queasy
I'm pretty sure that has been banned now and the blacktop is called something else as well for political correctness purposes.

Negrotop?
Africanamericantop?
 

WhiteKnight

Platinum Member
May 21, 2001
2,952
0
0
When my school halfheartedly banned dodgeball back in 1997, we arrived at the gym one day to find everything setup for dodgeball anyway. I asked the gym teacher what was going on, and he said, "Ball Avoidance".
 

rise

Diamond Member
Dec 13, 2004
9,116
46
91
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
I read where a school has BANNED every student from ever having a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch, even if brought from home, because ONE KID in kindergarten was allergic to peanuts.
both my son's school and my neices/nephews schools all did the same in MA. ridiculous.


 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
31,796
2
0
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
We are, without a doubt, destroying our children and our society.

VeggieFrog caught part of a cartoon where the main character was winning a race and stopped short of the finish line to wait for all his friends. when questioned why he did so, he repsonded that he did not want to make the other racers feel bad for not winning, so would wait for them and they could all cross the finish line together. He said that although he did not win the race he did feel like he won the best friend in the world prize.

I read where a school has BANNED every student from ever having a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch, even if brought from home, because ONE KID in kindergarten was allergic to peanuts.

There is a school in NY that BANNED Mother's Day because of ONE KID who had two gay men as parents.

I remember when....if you could not read at a third grade level, you did NOT go to fourth grade. They don't do that anymore... because they don't want the kids to feel bad.

I read that they want to do away with RED ink when marking papers in grade school because RED is an angry color. This one school picked PURPLE ink because PURPLE is a freindly color.


Eh... rant over!

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Yup. My son is allergic to peanuts as well. Fortunately his allergy isn't so bad that we have to ban peanuts from the house altogether. Only bothers him if he ingests it.

There was a story about a kid in Houston who had peanut allergies so bad that simply some peanut oil that was on someone's hand when they turned a door handle and he later touched that door handle set off a severe allergic reaction in him.

 

Leros

Lifer
Jul 11, 2004
21,867
7
81
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Aharami
if you homeschool, your kids wont get ANY social interaction. as opposed to the little they would be getting in a school. homeschooling is not the answer, IMO, for parents who dont support this ban. Those parents who are afraid their kids getting hurt while paying tag should be the ones who homeschool.

You're lucky there aren't many homeschool parents here, because you just opened a can of worms!

Not that I disagree with you entirely, all of the former homeschooled kids I knew in college were a bit odd.


I've seen kids go from homeschooling into a public high school and its not pretty. They don't know how to interact with people. They act like spoiled little brats. Quite frankly, they don't do well at first because things are so different.

If your kid can't function in a school environment, what makes you think your kid will function in the real world.
 
Aug 23, 2000
15,509
1
81
Originally posted by: NFS4
Imagine the day where they ban the physical activity of having sex and make everyone reproduce in a lab a la Demolition Man.

You mean no fluid transfer?


Are there really that many pussified people in this country that they are the majority now? I guess it's time to cut up some tires and make some shoulder pads out of them and start eating rat burgers.
 

Leros

Lifer
Jul 11, 2004
21,867
7
81
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
We are, without a doubt, destroying our children and our society.

VeggieFrog caught part of a cartoon where the main character was winning a race and stopped short of the finish line to wait for all his friends. when questioned why he did so, he repsonded that he did not want to make the other racers feel bad for not winning, so would wait for them and they could all cross the finish line together. He said that although he did not win the race he did feel like he won the best friend in the world prize.

I read where a school has BANNED every student from ever having a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch, even if brought from home, because ONE KID in kindergarten was allergic to peanuts.

There is a school in NY that BANNED Mother's Day because of ONE KID who had two gay men as parents.

I remember when....if you could not read at a third grade level, you did NOT go to fourth grade. They don't do that anymore... because they don't want the kids to feel bad.

I read that they want to do away with RED ink when marking papers in grade school because RED is an angry color. This one school picked PURPLE ink because PURPLE is a freindly color.


Eh... rant over!

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Yup. My son is allergic to peanuts as well. Fortunately his allergy isn't so bad that we have to ban peanuts from the house altogether. Only bothers him if he ingests it.

There was a story about a kid in Houston who had peanut allergies so bad that simply some peanut oil that was on someone's hand when they turned a door handle and he later touched that door handle set off a severe allergic reaction in him.

What is society supposed to do with these kinds of people? In the past, they would die and not be a problem. How do these kind of people function? Wear gloves and a respirator all day?


 

KarenMarie

Elite Member
Sep 20, 2003
14,372
6
81
Originally posted by: Armitage

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Sorry, but I disagree.

i do not think that an entire school of children should be denied something like peanut butter because of ONE kid. I think the parents need to a) teach their kid to NEVER EVER eat anything that did not come from home, b) go to a private school or c) home school.

I cannot see how it is fair that no child is allowed to have something as normal as peanut butter because of one kid. I think it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure the safety of their kid in such a situation. I dont think that hundreds of kids should suffer because of one kid.

Hard ass stance, I know.

 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
48,920
46
91
Originally posted by: WhiteKnight
When my school halfheartedly banned dodgeball back in 1997, we arrived at the gym one day to find everything setup for dodgeball anyway. I asked the gym teacher what was going on, and he said, "Ball Avoidance".

:D Great name
 

Armitage

Banned
Feb 23, 2001
8,086
0
0
Originally posted by: WhiteKnight
When my school halfheartedly banned dodgeball back in 1997, we arrived at the gym one day to find everything setup for dodgeball anyway. I asked the gym teacher what was going on, and he said, "Ball Avoidance".

Yea, my H.S. had a policy against dodgeball also - in the late 80's already. Our P.E. teacher - WWII marine vet - simply called it "war ball", anybody that didn't want to play could go run laps I think. Life went on.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
61,504
12
56
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Armitage

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Sorry, but I disagree.

i do not think that an entire school of children should be denied something like peanut butter because of ONE kid. I think the parents need to a) teach their kid to NEVER EVER eat anything that did not come from home, b) go to a private school or c) home school.

I cannot see how it is fair that no child is allowed to have something as normal as peanut butter because of one kid. I think it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure the safety of their kid in such a situation. I dont think that hundreds of kids should suffer because of one kid.

Hard ass stance, I know.
Some people are going to have a hard time with your hard ass stance, but I agree with you.

And while we're at it let's ban Halloween activites from schools because one kid's parental religious beliefs say Halloween is evil. Same type of thing. We cater to the minority so much more than we cater to the majority in this country.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Armitage

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Sorry, but I disagree.

i do not think that an entire school of children should be denied something like peanut butter because of ONE kid. I think the parents need to a) teach their kid to NEVER EVER eat anything that did not come from home, b) go to a private school or c) home school.

I cannot see how it is fair that no child is allowed to have something as normal as peanut butter because of one kid. I think it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure the safety of their kid in such a situation. I dont think that hundreds of kids should suffer because of one kid.

Hard ass stance, I know.
Some people are going to have a hard time with your hard ass stance, but I agree with you.

And while we're at it let's ban Halloween activites from schools because one kid's parental religious beliefs say Halloween is evil. Same type of thing. We cater to the minority so much more than we cater to the majority in this country.

thats already been done. same with christmas and easter.
 

Thraxen

Diamond Member
Dec 3, 2001
4,683
1
81
Originally posted by: Leros
I've seen kids go from homeschooling into a public high school and its not pretty. They don't know how to interact with people. They act like spoiled little brats. Quite frankly, they don't do well at first because things are so different.

If your kid can't function in a school environment, what makes you think your kid will function in the real world.

I dated a girl in HS who was home schooled until HS. She was valedictorian. Her brother, whom was also home schooled, was also valedictorian of his class a couple years later. Oh yeah, and they are both doctors now.
 

TheNinja

Lifer
Jan 22, 2003
12,207
1
0
We should just have the kids stand around in padded rooms covered in bubble wrap. Only letting them out to feed them spinach salads with grilled "free range" chicken and their medication for whatever "disease" they may or may not have.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
61,504
12
56
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Armitage

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Sorry, but I disagree.

i do not think that an entire school of children should be denied something like peanut butter because of ONE kid. I think the parents need to a) teach their kid to NEVER EVER eat anything that did not come from home, b) go to a private school or c) home school.

I cannot see how it is fair that no child is allowed to have something as normal as peanut butter because of one kid. I think it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure the safety of their kid in such a situation. I dont think that hundreds of kids should suffer because of one kid.

Hard ass stance, I know.
Some people are going to have a hard time with your hard ass stance, but I agree with you.

And while we're at it let's ban Halloween activites from schools because one kid's parental religious beliefs say Halloween is evil. Same type of thing. We cater to the minority so much more than we cater to the majority in this country.

thats already been done. same with christmas and easter.
Yeh, I was saying it that way. I guess it didn't come across though.

 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
61,504
12
56
Originally posted by: TheNinja
We should just have the kids stand around in padded rooms covered in bubble wrap. Only letting them out to feed them spinach salads with grilled "free range" chicken and their medication for whatever "disease" they may or may not have.
Can't have spinach in the salads even if the spinach here is now deemed safe. Just can't risk exposure to dirt.

 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Armitage

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Sorry, but I disagree.

i do not think that an entire school of children should be denied something like peanut butter because of ONE kid. I think the parents need to a) teach their kid to NEVER EVER eat anything that did not come from home, b) go to a private school or c) home school.

I cannot see how it is fair that no child is allowed to have something as normal as peanut butter because of one kid. I think it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure the safety of their kid in such a situation. I dont think that hundreds of kids should suffer because of one kid.

Hard ass stance, I know.

Preach it sister! I can't imagine how scary that must be as a parent, but your child's allergies cannot dictate the lives of hundreds of other children.
 

Thraxen

Diamond Member
Dec 3, 2001
4,683
1
81
Originally posted by: moshquerade
And while we're at it let's ban Halloween activites from schools because one kid's parental religious beliefs say Halloween is evil. Same type of thing. We cater to the minority so much more than we cater to the majority in this country.

Isn't it the majority that got religion pushed out of schools :confused:?
 

Armitage

Banned
Feb 23, 2001
8,086
0
0
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Armitage

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Sorry, but I disagree.

i do not think that an entire school of children should be denied something like peanut butter because of ONE kid. I think the parents need to a) teach their kid to NEVER EVER eat anything that did not come from home, b) go to a private school or c) home school.

I cannot see how it is fair that no child is allowed to have something as normal as peanut butter because of one kid. I think it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure the safety of their kid in such a situation. I dont think that hundreds of kids should suffer because of one kid.

Hard ass stance, I know.

So denial of peanut butter for lunch = suffering? Have your peanut butter somewhere else - I don't see it as that much of a hardship. And I love peanut butter. Compared to a kid that could possibly DIE if they accidently came into contact with it.

It's not a matter of teaching the kid not to eat anything from home. They don't have to actually eat it - simply coming in contact with it can be enough ... like the crumb on the table thing. Besides, you have kids. How well do kindergarteners listen? Maybe by middle or high school that will work, but not daycare & elementary school.

I see it as a very minor inconvenience to help avoid potentially deadly consequences. Compared to the rest of you list where the "consequences" are entirely imagined or the OP subject where the restriction is entirely unreasonable compared to the risk.

 

Armitage

Banned
Feb 23, 2001
8,086
0
0
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Armitage

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Sorry, but I disagree.

i do not think that an entire school of children should be denied something like peanut butter because of ONE kid. I think the parents need to a) teach their kid to NEVER EVER eat anything that did not come from home, b) go to a private school or c) home school.

I cannot see how it is fair that no child is allowed to have something as normal as peanut butter because of one kid. I think it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure the safety of their kid in such a situation. I dont think that hundreds of kids should suffer because of one kid.

Hard ass stance, I know.
Some people are going to have a hard time with your hard ass stance, but I agree with you.

And while we're at it let's ban Halloween activites from schools because one kid's parental religious beliefs say Halloween is evil. Same type of thing. We cater to the minority so much more than we cater to the majority in this country.

The halloween thing is not the same at all. The peanut thing is a very real, proveable, potentially deadly problem. The halloween problem is entirely imagined, and of neglible consequence.

While we're throwing up straw men - my kid is immune to cyanide. Just a quirk of nature. Should she be allowed to take cyanide and jelly sandwiches to school?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
61,504
12
56
Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: moshquerade
And while we're at it let's ban Halloween activites from schools because one kid's parental religious beliefs say Halloween is evil. Same type of thing. We cater to the minority so much more than we cater to the majority in this country.

Isn't it the majority that got religion pushed out of schools :confused:?
No religious aspects of Halloween are celebrated in schools. I am talking about not allowing the kids to dress up like Snow White and Superman, and have a Halloween party.

 

KarenMarie

Elite Member
Sep 20, 2003
14,372
6
81
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Armitage

I'm with you on everything but the peanut butter thing. Some people have peanut allergies that are extremely serious and potentially deadly and can be triggered be even very small amounts - like a crumb left on the table that gets on the allergic kids food.

My son's daycare bans all nut products because a child there has severe peanut allergies. The staff has been trained to administer epi syringes that are kept on hand. My daughters elementary school sets aside a table in the cafeteria for any kids that have peanut butter. Sad ... but that's a very real and potentially deadly risk.

Sorry, but I disagree.

i do not think that an entire school of children should be denied something like peanut butter because of ONE kid. I think the parents need to a) teach their kid to NEVER EVER eat anything that did not come from home, b) go to a private school or c) home school.

I cannot see how it is fair that no child is allowed to have something as normal as peanut butter because of one kid. I think it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure the safety of their kid in such a situation. I dont think that hundreds of kids should suffer because of one kid.

Hard ass stance, I know.

So denial of peanut butter for lunch = suffering? Have your peanut butter somewhere else - I don't see it as that much of a hardship. And I love peanut butter. Compared to a kid that could possibly DIE if they accidently came into contact with it.

It's not a matter of teaching the kid not to eat anything from home. They don't have to actually eat it - simply coming in contact with it can be enough ... like the crumb on the table thing. Besides, you have kids. How well do kindergarteners listen? Maybe by middle or high school that will work, but not daycare & elementary school.

I see it as a very minor inconvenience to help avoid potentially deadly consequences. Compared to the rest of you list where the "consequences" are entirely imagined or the OP subject where the restriction is entirely unreasonable compared to the risk.

So, the kid who is NOT allergic to peanut butter has to live their life as if they had the same allergy? To them, if they love peanut butter, it IS a hardship to not be able to have it for lunch on a school day... and why? It is not anything they did, or they suffer from. They cannot do something they want, or they enjoy because of a problem that someone else has. Multiply that by hundreds of kids... all because ONE kid has a problem.

Now, suppose there was a kid who had to live their life in a bubble because thet had a germ allergy. Does that mean that ALL kids in school should have to wear face masks and those hospital gowns and hair coverings before entering school property?

I think that if the kid has such a serious problem that DEATH could actually ensue just by touching something... that kid needs to be somewhere else. I mean... suppose some kid had peanut butter at home, dropped some and stepped in it. It gets tracked thru school and the sick kid steps in it. The next time he touches his shoes, he is a goner. Should we ban peanut from the entire planet? Or should all parents do a spot check on their kids to ensure there is not a trace of anything peanutty before sending them off to school? exaggerated....??? Perhpaps.... but how far should we go to 'inconvenience' hundreds of kids because of one?

Further... should we ban all contact sports, or even running in an entire school because one kid happens to be a hemophiliac?