NO site do any low end mobile CPU reviews!?

[reb0rn]

What happened to journalism and PC review, and past we had almost all test you could imagine, now?!?

We have at low mobile segment:
atom version of hell know N celeron & pentium!
at same time now we have broswell celeron & pentium with low frew speds

then we have core u i3 mobile also no turbo and crap freq! to me they are almost same with pentium bradwell in mobile segments I guess!

and on top of all that we have bunch of old tech A4, A6, etc

NONE review where we can see real difference

If you want performance you need at least i5! and 600+ $!

Have Intel/AMD forbid the low end review or they pay news/sites to not do it!?
Most ppl where I live buy those new hype crap quad core mobile atom craps, and then they moan why are they slower then 8 years old core 2 duo laptop!!! or even some athlon II cpu!

Sure where the are NONE review then non high tech person could see that new mobile low end CPU got backward in last ~8 years!

 

[bbhaag]

I thought the low end was dominated by ARM? Even if it's not it doesn't really matter because the low end doesn't really get the clicks so why review it.

If you think there might be a call for this maybe you should start your own review site centered around low spec under performing cpu's.

 

[reb0rn]

I would if I could,... and when I say mobile, I mean PC laptop segment more then ARM, but I guess even some crappy mobile phone for 200$ could be faster then a low end laptop!

 

[SPBHM]

notebookcheck always have some low end laptop reviews

the most difficult thing is finding reviews of low end desktop parts

 

[ViRGE]

Have Intel/AMD forbid the low end review or they pay news/sites to not do it!?

With mobile stuff AMD and Intel don't supply the systems in the first place, it's the OEMs that do. As for the OEMs, they aren't in rush to give a reviewer a low margin product; it doesn't look very good for them, and it means they have to sell a lot of units to make up for the cost of sending out the sample.

And to add insult to injury, no one reads the low-end reviews. People like window shopping (e.g. the halo effect), but no one is in a rush to read a Celeron review. The people buying Celerons are typically the people that don't know any better (or don't care to read reviews) and the people who do know better typically buy better systems anyhow.

So there's no conspiracy, there's just not a lot of incentive at either end of the chain.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Its about asking if you want to review a 60$ AAA game or a 5$ indie game. Its "amazing" we still see i5 reviews.

You are not the only one missing the old days with broad reviews.

The Eurogamer i3 6100 seems like a one off.

 

[JeffMD]

notebookcheck I find is a good place to find info about ALL notebooks and their CPUs, but because the lower end market is loaded with a lot of crap processors you generally do not see any excitement unless someone does it at an amazing price point. Like when we saw the $69 windows tablets. Still I find that the $250-400 laptop market one to avoid. A lot of underpowered hardware, no new innovations being made. And definitely not the place for someone looking for performance numbers.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

the most difficult thing is finding reviews of low end desktop parts

Yup. You have to crunch the numbers, and extrapolate to get at least an idea of performance.

Which is sad really. Some of the most remembered parts in enthusiast circles, weren't high- or top-end products.

 

[cbn]

then we have core u i3 mobile also no turbo and crap freq! to me they are almost same with pentium bradwell in mobile segments I guess!

The single thread is going to be a lot faster on the Core i3 than the Braswell processors. (reason: there is a 2:1 gap in IPC between Core and atom)

P.S. One nice thing we are seeing (at low end mobile) is Intel release Pentiums with hyperthreading (Examples: 3825U and 4405U). For the Skylake version the frequency is only 200 Mhz lower on the 2C/4T Pentium 4405U compared to the Core i3-6100U.

However, I haven't really got into comparing prices. One thing to watch out for and use for a comparison point is sale priced Core i3s.

 

[cbn]

One thing I think would be interesting for the low end:

35W Carrizo without dGPU.

Not the high end FX-8800P model, but the A8-8600P.

 

[reb0rn]

From the place I am 80% of ppl but low end laptop/PC, worst part shops that sell it lie about performance

Dozen times I was asked to fix a desktop slow PC just to see its a AMD e-350 piss of shit, and then I lost time explaining that all is fine and only fix that can be done is 200$ which most/all refuse, now its the same with laptops, they think something is broken if its slow

Ppl just don`t get, most cheapest HW in a store is 2x slower then their 4 year old PC, and then when they need to change PSU or something, they say in a store I have brand new PC for 200$

 

[cbn]

From the place I am 80% of ppl but low end laptop/PC,

What part of the world do you live in?

 

[cbn]

I think for basic usage (web browsing, particularly with Firefox) a processor with a passmark single thread of at least 850 is good. Multi-thread passmark should be at least 1500.

Unfortunately a lot of modern low end processors do fall beneath this level.

P.S. A $5 P8700 Core 2 duo laptop CPU has a single thread passmark score of 1004 and a multi-thread passmark score of 1659.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

I think for basic usage (web browsing, particularly with Firefox) a processor with a passmark single thread of at least 850 is good. Multi-thread passmark should be at least 1500.

Unfortunately a lot of modern low end processors do fall beneath this level.

P.S. A $5 P8700 Core 2 duo laptop CPU has a single thread passmark score of 1004 and a multi-thread passmark score of 1659.

That cpu is solid enough for anything but CPU demanding gaming. Paired with an ssd and 4gb ram, the laptop is snappy.

 

[cbn]

That cpu is solid enough for anything but CPU demanding gaming. Paired with an ssd and 4gb ram, the laptop is snappy.

Yes, an SSD would really help a laptop with that CPU.

P.S. I am glad to see the price floor drop on 120GB/128GB SSDs with quality controllers and synchronous MLC NAND. This one at Newegg really has impressed me.

SM2246EN controller
Samsung DRAM
120GB Sk Hynix Sychronous NAND
$39.99 shipped.

Pretty much unbeatable spec at that price. Normally for $40 on sale a person would find a SSD with a DRAM-less controller (example: Sandisk SSD Plus), but for that SSD it looks like $40 might be the regular price.

So I have got to wondering what the future will bring? DRAM-less SSD controller (eg, Phison S11) plus 120GB/128GB TLC V-NAND for $30? And how will these compare to whatever eMMC spec we see at that time?

Does a person buy used laptop (and upgrade to SSD) or does a person buy new value oriented hardware (with eMMC)....or maybe some type of strategy in between that?