No Rap For You:8-19-05 Student Expelled for publishing Rap lyrics on website at home

dmcowen674

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The continuing take away of Fundamental Constitutional rights in America by the Republican Agenda is now in full swing on all levels.

Now the brainwashing of the younger generation that there is no such thing as Free Speech is complete.

Another case:

8-19-2005 Student expelled for rap lyrics on his home website sues school district

PITTSBURGH ? The American Civil Liberties Union has sued a school district on behalf of a 14-year-old rap music fan who was expelled after he posted lyrics on the Internet...

The ACLU said the songs by Anthony Latour, of Ellwood City, were protected speech because, among other reasons, they were composed at home and not brought to school. The suit says Latour?s expulsion in May from the Riverside Beaver County School District violated his parents? right to control his upbringing.

?The school may not like Anthony?s songs, but it is beyond their ability to dictate what he reads, writes or even raps at home,? said Witold ?Vic? Walczak, the ACLU of Pennsylvania?s legal director.

?It is our job, not that of school officials, to decide what music Anthony can compose and listen to in our home,? said Anthony?s father, John Latour.

Latour was removed from class in April by North Sewickley Township police and charged with making terroristic threats and harassment because of lyrics he posted on the Internet.

But Walczak said school officials erred because Latour?s lyrics ? though violent and profane ? weren?t meant to be threats and didn?t cause any disruption at school.
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I know Oregon has been riding the fence as of late. Maybe if more mothers like Mrs Swanson realize that voting for the Religious Republican Agenda is not such a great idea afterall Oregon might be able to be saved from the Dark Side.

We'll see.

5-15-2005 Student Gets Detention For Violating Hugging Ban

BEND, Ore. - Public displays of affection are against the rules at Sky View Middle School in Bend, and 14-year-old Cazz Altomare found that out the hard way.

She got detention earlier this year after hugging her boyfriend in the hallway as he headed to lunch and she went to gym class.

Her mother, Leslee Swanson was infuriated by the punishment ? in fact, when she went to pick her daughter up from detention, she gave her a good, hard hug.

"I'm trying to understand what's wrong with a hug," said Swanson, 42.

Her mother has told her that if she likes Sky View and wants to stay at the school, she'll have to abide by the rules.

But Swanson, the mother, said she wonders if a hugging ban would fly in a more metropolitan place.

For her, this is a politically charged issue.

"The more people blindly accept these fundamental rights being taken away from them, the easier it becomes for them to be taken away," Swanson said.
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ECUHITMAN

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I thought the motto was "hugs not drugs". So is this school advocating the use of drugs?
 

jjzelinski

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Oregon is a place of political polar extremes; in the rural areas it's back woods conservative, and in the urban area's it's a demented pseudo-hippie complex of imasculated men and moody granola women. Not my favorite state in the world. Shame, it's quite beautiful there.
 

Amplifier

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They should ban public statements of affection. Starting with "I love you"... no place in a school.
 

Kadarin

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Hugging is natural human behavior. Why pretend that we're all unemotional robots?
 

ntdz

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I love how you try to blame this on the Republicans when Oregon is a democrat state who voted for Kerry.
 

Kerouactivist

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These thing have been around for quite some time...at least for the last 10-15 years in some communities.....Its just another form of control.....we should be telling our kids to hug each other...

Bunch of protestant crap further decaying society.....don't dance, don't touch, don't feel, don't think.....

I love this part of the article
Cue guy saying he is not doing something that he is.....
"Really, all we're trying to do is create an environment that's focused on learning, and learning proper manners is part of that," said Dave Haack, the principal of Cascade Middle School, also in Bend. "This is not us being the romance police."

I dunno but, I think giving someone a hug is within proper manners

 

Buz2b

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Originally posted by: ntdz
I love how you try to blame this on the Republicans when Oregon is a democrat state who voted for Kerry.

Ditto from a conservative swimming in a sea of liberalism that is Oregon! Also, it's about Public displays of affection; not hugging. They're junior high students also. I don't necessarily agree with this "rule" but way too often parents aren't parenting anymore and schools are caught in the middle. Besides, this is much ado about nothing here. If the kids want to hug, hold hands, whatever, let them do it in the company of their parents after school. It's not like they're being "deprived" of anything earth shattering while they're AT SCHOOL, supposedly learning.
Let the rants begin! ;)
 

judasmachine

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It's because you can catch AIDS by touching skin, and that's how babies are made. It's true my local fundie radio told me so.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
They should ban public statements of affection. Starting with "I love you"... no place in a school.

They have banned displays of disaffection so why not?
 

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Originally posted by: Buz2b
Originally posted by: ntdz
I love how you try to blame this on the Republicans when Oregon is a democrat state who voted for Kerry.

Ditto from a conservative swimming in a sea of liberalism that is Oregon! Also, it's about Public displays of affection; not hugging. They're junior high students also. I don't necessarily agree with this "rule" but way too often parents aren't parenting anymore and schools are caught in the middle. Besides, this is much ado about nothing here. If the kids want to hug, hold hands, whatever, let them do it in the company of their parents after school. It's not like they're being "deprived" of anything earth shattering while they're AT SCHOOL, supposedly learning.
Let the rants begin! ;)

Praise Jesus! These devil children must be taught that these things are only appropriate in the confines of Christian marriage! Eh? Eh?

Really, I think this is stupid. If the kids want to hug or hold hands, I don't see the problem. Sure, its beyond common decency for them to be making out or feeling each other up in the hallways, but there's nothing wrong with a quick peck on the lips or cheek.

This is really about the administrators and teachers diverting attention away from their dismal teaching abilities while at the same time appealing to the religious nutjobs trying to gain power in our country.
 

piasabird

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I had to think about hugging at 14. . . .

It is sometimes hard to imagine what i was doing at 14. I guess this is like Jr High or something like that. 6-8th grade.

I guess they think 14 year olds dont need to be necking in the hallway.
 

nakedfrog

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I'm pretty sure public displays of affection were not allowed when I was in jr high/high school over ten years ago.
 

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Given that some schools are teaching elementary level children
**that oral sex is ok
**showing them how to put on a condom, normally using a banana but not always
**providing a sex education for them on TV

I'm surprised that any junior high school is not allowing hugging and kissing in the hallway. Especially since the Mother doesn't mind what her child is doing.

I completely agree with the quote;
"The more people blindly accept these fundamental rights being taken away from them, the easier it becomes for them to be taken away," Swanson said.

After all we have already given up our fundamental right to free speech (Politically correct speech), religious choices (try being a Christian today! ROFL), and even defending our lives while in our own home is now considered a worse crime than breaking into the home nad raping women (which is, afterall, merely a sexual preference.)

BTW, isn't detention merely staying after school for 30 minutes or an hour? WOW. Think of what would have happened had they supported the Constitution in a homework assignment... Wait, they get expelled. nm.
 

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Originally posted by: Laughalot
I wonder how they deal with dances then?

To "straighten" me out I was sent to a military school. Hey, it was better than jail! This school was also a Baptist school. The religion was not shove down our throat. Nor was it opressive. It was a co-ed school. It was in Texas. It was in the sixties.

We had a prom, with dancing.

Of course we didn't have sex on the dance floor during the prom which is all the rage now. I'm not sure why since it was a perfect opportunity for the schools to teach technique.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: piasabird
I had to think about hugging at 14. . . .

It is sometimes hard to imagine what i was doing at 14. I guess this is like Jr High or something like that. 6-8th grade.

I guess they think 14 year olds dont need to be necking in the hallway.

I was a sophomore in HS at 14. This is just ridiculous. And no where in any of the articles I've found/read did it say they were necking or doing anything lewd. They just hugged "too long".

Some question hug ban
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
It's because you can catch AIDS by touching skin, and that's how babies are made. It's true Bill Frist told me so.

Fixed.
 

dmcowen674

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Another case:

8-19-2005 Student expelled for rap lyrics on his home website sues school district

PITTSBURGH ? The American Civil Liberties Union has sued a school district on behalf of a 14-year-old rap music fan who was expelled after he posted lyrics on the Internet...

The ACLU said the songs by Anthony Latour, of Ellwood City, were protected speech because, among other reasons, they were composed at home and not brought to school. The suit says Latour?s expulsion in May from the Riverside Beaver County School District violated his parents? right to control his upbringing.

?The school may not like Anthony?s songs, but it is beyond their ability to dictate what he reads, writes or even raps at home,? said Witold ?Vic? Walczak, the ACLU of Pennsylvania?s legal director.

?It is our job, not that of school officials, to decide what music Anthony can compose and listen to in our home,? said Anthony?s father, John Latour.

Latour was removed from class in April by North Sewickley Township police and charged with making terroristic threats and harassment because of lyrics he posted on the Internet.

But Walczak said school officials erred because Latour?s lyrics ? though violent and profane ? weren?t meant to be threats and didn?t cause any disruption at school.
 

zendari

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Wow Dave. Forgot to put this in?

The American Civil Liberties Union has sued a school district on behalf of a 14-year-old rap music fan who was expelled after he posted lyrics on the Internet in which, according to police, he threatened to shoot up his school and named a potential victim.

A friend of mine was expelled in middle school for saying in jest that he was going to blow up the school. You don't joke around about that after columbine.
 

yankeesfan

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Another case:

8-19-2005 Student expelled for rap lyrics on his home website sues school district

PITTSBURGH ? The American Civil Liberties Union has sued a school district on behalf of a 14-year-old rap music fan who was expelled after he posted lyrics on the Internet...

The ACLU said the songs by Anthony Latour, of Ellwood City, were protected speech because, among other reasons, they were composed at home and not brought to school. The suit says Latour?s expulsion in May from the Riverside Beaver County School District violated his parents? right to control his upbringing.

?The school may not like Anthony?s songs, but it is beyond their ability to dictate what he reads, writes or even raps at home,? said Witold ?Vic? Walczak, the ACLU of Pennsylvania?s legal director.

?It is our job, not that of school officials, to decide what music Anthony can compose and listen to in our home,? said Anthony?s father, John Latour.

Latour was removed from class in April by North Sewickley Township police and charged with making terroristic threats and harassment because of lyrics he posted on the Internet.

But Walczak said school officials erred because Latour?s lyrics ? though violent and profane ? weren?t meant to be threats and didn?t cause any disruption at school.

WTF does this have to do with free speech? He was expelled because he posted violent, profane, terroristic threats. Free speech doesn't apply when you make violent. terroristic threats.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Another case:

8-19-2005 Student expelled for rap lyrics on his home website sues school district

PITTSBURGH ? The American Civil Liberties Union has sued a school district on behalf of a 14-year-old rap music fan who was expelled after he posted lyrics on the Internet...

The ACLU said the songs by Anthony Latour, of Ellwood City, were protected speech because, among other reasons, they were composed at home and not brought to school. The suit says Latour?s expulsion in May from the Riverside Beaver County School District violated his parents? right to control his upbringing.

?The school may not like Anthony?s songs, but it is beyond their ability to dictate what he reads, writes or even raps at home,? said Witold ?Vic? Walczak, the ACLU of Pennsylvania?s legal director.

?It is our job, not that of school officials, to decide what music Anthony can compose and listen to in our home,? said Anthony?s father, John Latour.

Latour was removed from class in April by North Sewickley Township police and charged with making terroristic threats and harassment because of lyrics he posted on the Internet.

But Walczak said school officials erred because Latour?s lyrics ? though violent and profane ? weren?t meant to be threats and didn?t cause any disruption at school.
WTF does this have to do with free speech? He was expelled because he posted violent, profane, terroristic threats. Free speech doesn't apply when you make violent. terroristic threats.
He did not involve the school. As far as we know, he did not threaten anyone, or divulge any plans to hurt others.

I think some of you were getting secret sheeple training at 14, rather than growing up. This seems like normal pubescent boy behavior, to me, except that he was stupid enough to post it somewhere rather than leave it locked away in a notebook.