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JTsyo

Lifer
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Well looks like the website meant 95% of customers would be back up by Thursday. Wife called about an hour ago to say the power is back up. Was able to cancel the order at Amazon, instead, I think, I'll just turn my fireplace into a gas one. Considering a gas generator too.

Power lines in our neighborhood is buried, it's the stuff outside that's above ground.
 

PatrickBateman

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Something like 800,000+ customers in Connecticut still without power and for many of them Thursday would be the best case scenario. People in less densely populated areas of the state might be out until early next week. My sister's town is 100% out and they have no idea when they might be restored. It could be tomorrow and it could be next Tuesday.

Yup, my town Plainville CT is 100% out....drove though West Hartford... backroads are a disaster. At least temps are rising during the day.
 

Miklebud

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Power went out for me Saturday around midnight, in Northwest MA. Power came back on at 8PM last night, and I woke up with no power again. UGH.
 

bruceb

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In a lot of areas, the power lines to homes and large business do get put underground. The bigger problem is the main distribution lines that run all over the city and country. Yes, you can put them underground and get rid of all those telephone poles. But the cost is very high and those wire carry a lot of current. Current dissipates better in air than in a conduit of any kind, so any wires put underground need to be bigger in size. On the plus side, the landscape is cleaner looking and the chance of outages are reduced to those homes and business that still use overhead drop wires into the meter socket.
 

Kaido

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We called and they said our expected outage time is up to 2 weeks. Possibly 1 week but closer to 2 weeks. 51F in my house right now, whoohoo! :awe:

It looks like a hurricane hit us - trees down everywhere, massive power outages, stoplights not working, grocery stores out of power. What a mess.
 

KLin

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How can this be?

They doubled electric rates for a supposedly "Smart Grid" and promised this wouldn't happen anymore.

Promising stuff to not happen and stuff actually happening can be completely different.
 

dmcowen674

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They promised natural disasters/weather wouldn't take down power lines? Wow. I'd like to see that promise.

10-26-2011

http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman...-lawmakers-override-governor-s-veto-4118.html


Smart grid win in Illinois; lawmakers override governor's veto


"The consumers of Illinois are deeply disappointed in the General Assembly's action today to give Commonwealth Edison and Ameren guaranteed annual rate increases for each of the next 10 years...and so am I," Quinn said in a statement carried in the Chicago Tribune.

ComEd president and COO Anne Pramaggiore obviously had another take: "Today, the General Assembly took a historic step towards creating a stronger Illinois that will help us deliver more value and better service to the 5.4 million customers we proudly serve."

To soften opposition to the override, the Sun-Times reports that legislation was also passed "to increase how much ComEd must pay to storm-proof its transmission system
 

Red Squirrel

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I never heard of a snow storm causing bad power outages like this, what are the power lines in the south made of, foil paper? lol. We've had over a foot dumped overnight multiple times with no issues, other than having to scramble to get the snow off the car in order to get to work on time, and hoping to beat the snow plow so you don't have to also dig the front of the driveway.

I'm just waiting for the morning I get up and it's like that. This time of year is really unpredictable. I think part of my childhood is still in me because I'm always excited to look outside in the morning to see if it's "the day".
 

Specop 007

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Got a e-mail from the gas company saying not to do that since you could use up the O2 and get up with carbon monoxide.

Well obviously, you have an open gas flame inside your house! Having said that if you are smart about it theres relatively little danger. Well....You know, come to think of it never mind. You probably shouldnt do it.


:p
 

DrPizza

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10-26-2011

http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman...-lawmakers-override-governor-s-veto-4118.html


Smart grid win in Illinois; lawmakers override governor's veto


"The consumers of Illinois are deeply disappointed in the General Assembly's action today to give Commonwealth Edison and Ameren guaranteed annual rate increases for each of the next 10 years...and so am I," Quinn said in a statement carried in the Chicago Tribune.

ComEd president and COO Anne Pramaggiore obviously had another take: "Today, the General Assembly took a historic step towards creating a stronger Illinois that will help us deliver more value and better service to the 5.4 million customers we proudly serve."

To soften opposition to the override, the Sun-Times reports that legislation was also passed "to increase how much ComEd must pay to storm-proof its transmission system
Unfortunately, you don't know the difference between transmission lines and distribution lines. The problem isn't with transmission, it's with distribution. Transmission = those great big towers with lots and lots of insulators that go from source to city. Distribution is all the lines inside the city that are under trees. You're a loon if you think they're going to prevent all problems on distribution lines. Not that they're not doing a lot of work on that front as well.
 

Fear No Evil

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10-26-2011

http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman...-lawmakers-override-governor-s-veto-4118.html


Smart grid win in Illinois; lawmakers override governor's veto


"The consumers of Illinois are deeply disappointed in the General Assembly's action today to give Commonwealth Edison and Ameren guaranteed annual rate increases for each of the next 10 years...and so am I," Quinn said in a statement carried in the Chicago Tribune.

ComEd president and COO Anne Pramaggiore obviously had another take: "Today, the General Assembly took a historic step towards creating a stronger Illinois that will help us deliver more value and better service to the 5.4 million customers we proudly serve."

To soften opposition to the override, the Sun-Times reports that legislation was also passed "to increase how much ComEd must pay to storm-proof its transmission system

Dr. Pizza already told you the difference between transmission and distribution lines. But the story you are quoting is seriously from 5 days ago? The plan was just approved and you expect it to already be in place? /Facepalm.
 

Red Squirrel

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Well obviously, you have an open gas flame inside your house! Having said that if you are smart about it theres relatively little danger. Well....You know, come to think of it never mind. You probably shouldnt do it.


:p

The way I see it, if you are generating enough heat with fire in order to heat your house, chances are the amount of O2 used and CO/CO2 produced will be dangerous. If it was not the case, you could run an high efficiency furnace in your house without any exhaust.

Though, this made me think, it's probably not a bad idea to put the furnace on a UPS or at least have an inverter/battery ready to go. I cannot recall the last time we had a power outage in winter here, but I suppose it could happen if a truck crashed into a power line or something. Depending on the time of year, no heat for a couple hours means broken pipes and a nasty mess, and probably lot of cracks in the drywall.
 

DrPizza

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The way I see it, if you are generating enough heat with fire in order to heat your house, chances are the amount of O2 used and CO/CO2 produced will be dangerous. If it was not the case, you could run an high efficiency furnace in your house without any exhaust.

Though, this made me think, it's probably not a bad idea to put the furnace on a UPS or at least have an inverter/battery ready to go. I cannot recall the last time we had a power outage in winter here, but I suppose it could happen if a truck crashed into a power line or something. Depending on the time of year, no heat for a couple hours means broken pipes and a nasty mess, and probably lot of cracks in the drywall.

There are plenty of people who have ventless natural gas heaters in their houses & who originally got them for supplemental heat, but gradually came to rely on them. One thing that they have though that your stove doesn't have, is an automatic shutoff if CO or CO2 levels get too high.
 

Bignate603

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10-26-2011

http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman...-lawmakers-override-governor-s-veto-4118.html


Smart grid win in Illinois; lawmakers override governor's veto


"The consumers of Illinois are deeply disappointed in the General Assembly's action today to give Commonwealth Edison and Ameren guaranteed annual rate increases for each of the next 10 years...and so am I," Quinn said in a statement carried in the Chicago Tribune.

ComEd president and COO Anne Pramaggiore obviously had another take: "Today, the General Assembly took a historic step towards creating a stronger Illinois that will help us deliver more value and better service to the 5.4 million customers we proudly serve."

To soften opposition to the override, the Sun-Times reports that legislation was also passed "to increase how much ComEd must pay to storm-proof its transmission system

What does a news story about Illinois have anything to do with power outages in New Jersey?
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
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What does a news story about Illinois have anything to do with power outages in New Jersey?

Dude

48 other states including New Jersey have already passed the "Smart Grid" increase in power rates. Illinois just became the 49th on the 26th.

The increase in power rates has done nothing to stop power grid failure, if anything failure has increased.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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I never heard of a snow storm causing bad power outages like this, what are the power lines in the south made of, foil paper? lol. We've had over a foot dumped overnight multiple times with no issues, other than having to scramble to get the snow off the car in order to get to work on time, and hoping to beat the snow plow so you don't have to also dig the front of the driveway.

I'm just waiting for the morning I get up and it's like that. This time of year is really unpredictable. I think part of my childhood is still in me because I'm always excited to look outside in the morning to see if it's "the day".

Trouble was that it's only October. The trees haven't shed their leaves yet plus the snow was very heavy.
 

Anubis

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Dude

48 other states including New Jersey have already passed the "Smart Grid" increase in power rates. Illinois just became the 49th on the 26th.

The increase in power rates has done nothing to stop power grid failure, if anything failure has increased.

DUDE you have no idea what you are talking about, ever