No one to blame but...

[bamacre]

The Democrats have no one to blame but themselves. They've continued some of the worst policies from the last administration and have spent a tremendous amount of money that we don't have to try to bring life back into an already failed economy.

 

[EXman]

Straight to denial, ehh?

naw it's called not wasting your time on a uberpartisan goober.

 

[cKGunslinger]

naw it's called not wasting your time on a uberpartisan goober.

Just think, if everyone did that, there'd be 2, maybe 3 posts per thread here in P&N. Where's the fun in that?

 

[Brigandier]

Put "No Confidence" on the ballot and watch how much voting increases.

 

[jman19]

Well when you have fresh Dogshit running against day old Dogshit it's kind if hard to get excited enough to vote unless you're into Dogshit like Craig, Spidey and PJabber.

Well, that is true... but we'll never get rid of the Dogshit if we let those that lap it up do all of the voting.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Voted straight Libertarian, save for Governor (I *hate* Rick Perry, and tried to give Bill White a chance, no many how slim. And now that Perry's won again, I fear the rest of the country may soon start hearing from him..)

Results were pretty dismal. Highest Libertarian candidate got ~10%, but most were 1-2% - even Jim Prindle, whom I thought had a real chance, as he has signs everywhere and I get tons of flyers.

Oh well, still have to vote your conscious, I guess, even it the results are disheartening.

 

[Jhhnn]

naw it's called not wasting your time on a uberpartisan goober.

As if you're not. But there's always time for reflexive derision in lieu of actual thought or argument, right?

Craig's right, to a point. extreme concentration of wealth is basically incompatible with egalitarian democracy. Reducing the power of the govt creates a power vacuum, which the leadership of the rightwing intends to fill with the power of wealth and corporatocracy. There's nothing democratic about either one.

 

[Balt]

It is kind of a shame that the youth have little interest in politics, considering that their future is basically being buried in debt at extraordinary rates by both parties.

If a politician today has a choice between screwing future generations and angering the AARP crowd who are much more likely to vote, which one will he choose? I think it's pretty obvious.

 

[bamacre]

If a politician today has a choice between screwing future generations and angering the AARP crowd who are much more likely to vote, which one will he choose? I think it's pretty obvious.

And it looks like they figured that out a long time ago. :awe:

 

[irishScott]

100 units of government cheese per week.

Fixed.

 

[Greenman]

Well, people react to the truth that's news to them differently. Yours is a common one.

Not much different than if I went to a fundamentalist church and said 'you are falling short of the values you claim, and are practicing bigotry against gays refusing them marriage'.

I'd get a lot of people who sound like your post. That's just how it works.

If you had the willingness to consider the possibility, my statement would easily be found to be true, but it's not easy to consider you're wrong, is it?

You miss the point entirely. I have no problem listening to differing points of view, I'm bright enough to understand that even people I disagree with can have a better idea, or position, than I. I take issue when that position starts out with a blatant fallacy. I'm sure you're convinced of your mental and ethical superiority, but the rest of us aren't. An assignment of guilt based solely on your personal dislike for those that disagree with you lends no credence to your argument, and causes me to dismiss you as a narrow thinker that is woefully out of touch with reality.

 

[Craig234]

An assignment of guilt based solely on your personal dislike for those that disagree with you...

Your post is quite ironic. You do what you wrongly attack about:

I take issue when that position starts out with a blatant fallacy

 

[Greenman]

Your post is quite ironic. You do what you wrongly attack about:

Incorrect, I don't dislike you at all. Nor do I have any dislike for most political factions. I don't hate anyone, though people on the far left do have some ideas that concern me.

 

[Kirby]

Well when you have fresh Dogshit running against day old Dogshit it's kind if hard to get excited enough to vote unless you're into Dogshit like Craig, Spidey and PJabber.

Smart kids. 89% knows it's false choice. Kids are very perceptive about people. Too bad we have to turn into adults. Well some of you do.

This. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. American democracy is an exercise in futility.

 

[Craig234]

Incorrect, I don't dislike you at all. Nor do I have any dislike for most political factions. I don't hate anyone, though people on the far left do have some ideas that concern me.

I didn't say you did. You started out with the "blatant fallacy"...

 

[Generator]

I also heard Obama had 75% of the 'unlikely to vote' demographic. Lost support with Republicans, Independants, but big support from the non-voters.

Heh sort of surprising I guess. But like all things for Americans, its all about branding.

Remember that piece of shit Bush? Boy could that motherfucker clear brush. I mean, golly the way he got after it. Hell he even got Dick out there on the ranch! He also dropped the ball and got 3 thousand American killed. Which led to another 5 thousands Americans to be killed and 1 million Iraqis dead. With another 2 to 3 million to seek refuge in Europe. Lets not mention the other dissapointments. But for most part for Americans thats all branding!

Obama's brand is up! Didn't even have to make up any new wars to do so. Obama really didn't get that many young voters in 08 anyway. The majority of the youth vote doesn't know and doesn't care. But if any generation should know whats going on its this one.

 

[pcgeek11]

If you had the willingness to consider the possibility, my statement would easily be found to be true, but it's not easy to consider you're wrong, is it?

I don't know. You should direct this question at yourself.


Is it?

 

[DominionSeraph]

*yawn*

 

[dank69]

...I am surprised that no ..'but..but...Busssssshhhhh" excuse from the OP...

What a hilarious and original line. I have not heard that one before, certainly not hundreds of times on this forum alone.

The funniest (and truest) part about it is that it is just so obvious that a president and his policies could never have a lasting effect on this country. Your IQ must be well into the 150s. Kudos. :beer:

 

[Jaskalas]

Well, if it makes you feel better, Craig, I'm 29 and would have voted a straight Republican ticket, but didn't bother to vote (Well, except for state house, the Democrat of our district is a pretty cool guy and actually is more of a conservative than a progressive)

As it turned out, no race that was on the ballet here was decided by a single vote. Therefore I made absolutely no difference in the outcome no matter what I decided to do!!!!!!

A single person throwing trash in your yard wouldn't be a big deal. If the whole town thought as he did.... you'd need a new place to live, if you could ever climb out of the rubble.

 

[ichy]

Agree that the low turnout is lame, but as soon as I read the crap about the right-wing threat to our democracy I stopped paying attention to the OP's post.

 

[nick1985]

Agree that the low turnout is lame, but as soon as I read the crap about the right-wing threat to our constituional republic I stopped paying attention to the OP's post.

fixed

 

[PingSpike]

it is sad only 11% voted regardless of what side of the political spectrum you are on.

Not really. I vote, but it basically amounts to rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.

 

[PingSpike]

It is kind of a shame that the youth have little interest in politics, considering that their future is basically being buried in debt at extraordinary rates by both parties.

The tyranny of the majority combined lobbying by the existing players means that is a forgone conclusion. Deciding one would be better served downing a 12 pack on November 2nd rather than voting is a decision I am having trouble refuting the logic of.

 

[Carmen813]

I think we need to seriously reform our elections in the U.S. For one, let's stop having them in November, when more than half the country is freezing it's ass off. Let's do it in Late May/Early June. You can be inaugurated a couple months earlier.

I think we should consider having longer voting periods as well. Some countries give their citizens an entire month to go and vote. I could see this making fraud more problematic, but not necessarily. It might lead to campaigns that aren't as long too since candidates don't have to worry about turning out the vote in a single 16 hour window.