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Craig234

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I heard that 11% of the 18-29 age citizens voted in the mid-terms.

They could have radically changed the outcome (for the better); they voted the least.

I also heard Obama had 75% of the 'unlikely to vote' demographic. Lost support with Republicans, Independants, but big support from the non-voters.

This isn't something that's news for most, but it's a good reminder of the problem of a low voting rate. And it increases the chance these 90% don't care much about democracy.

Not that the US is in any danger of needing to fight to protect its democracy from any foreign threat, but imagine asking people, 'go risk your life to defend it'. Defend WHAT?

(The real risk to our democracy is, of course, internal, the right-wing machine).

Of course, any government efforts to increase voting (like motor voter) would get strong opposition from the right, because the more who vote, the better Democrats do.

It's a bit funny neither side can be especially proud of its base in many cases - Dems with felons and these often uninformed youth, Repubs with propaganda-poisoned deluded haters.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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it is sad only 11% voted regardless of what side of the political spectrum you are on.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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The real risk to our democracy is, of course, internal, the right-wing machine.

You lost me right there, and lost all credibility as well. I stopped reading and have no further interest in what you were trying to say.
 

Throckmorton

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Aug 23, 2007
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I voted and got a Democratic governor, but a Republican mayor who wants to lay me off! (nonpartisan race but he sounds like a R)
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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The real risk to our democracy is, of course, internal, the right-wing machine.

You lost me right there, and lost all credibility as well. I stopped reading and have no further interest in what you were trying to say.

Straight to denial, ehh?
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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The real risk to our democracy is, of course, internal, the right-wing machine.

You lost me right there, and lost all credibility as well. I stopped reading and have no further interest in what you were trying to say.

Well, people react to the truth that's news to them differently. Yours is a common one.

Not much different than if I went to a fundamentalist church and said 'you are falling short of the values you claim, and are practicing bigotry against gays refusing them marriage'.

I'd get a lot of people who sound like your post. That's just how it works.

If you had the willingness to consider the possibility, my statement would easily be found to be true, but it's not easy to consider you're wrong, is it?
 

MikeMike

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Feb 6, 2000
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Well, people react to the truth that's news to them differently. Yours is a common one.

Not much different than if I went to a fundamentalist church and said 'you are falling short of the values you claim, and are practicing bigotry against gays refusing them marriage'.

I'd get a lot of people who sound like your post. That's just how it works.

If you had the willingness to consider the possibility, my statement would easily be found to be true, but it's not easy to consider you're wrong, is it?

wh... wh... wh... WHAT?
 

Svnla

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Nov 10, 2003
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Coulda, woulda, shoulda...blah, blah, blah.

Geez, your guys lost. Get over it. Wait until 2012.

I am surprised that no ..'but..but...Busssssshhhhh" excuse from the OP.

Democrats got a big beating because the Independents voted for Republicans this time.
 
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cubby1223

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Well, if it makes you feel better, Craig, I'm 29 and would have voted a straight Republican ticket, but didn't bother to vote :p (Well, except for state house, the Democrat of our district is a pretty cool guy and actually is more of a conservative than a progressive)

As it turned out, no race that was on the ballet here was decided by a single vote. Therefore I made absolutely no difference in the outcome no matter what I decided to do!!!!!! :D
 

hal2kilo

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I voted and got a Democratic governor, but a Republican mayor who wants to lay me off! (nonpartisan race but he sounds like a R)
I think calling positions nonpartisan especially at the level of mayor is a crock of shit. I want to know what that person's beliefs are (and don't tell me they are nonpartisan, i've got a bridge to sell you too). We have the same crap in our state also.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Well, if it makes you feel better, Craig, I'm 29 and would have voted a straight Republican ticket, but didn't bother to vote :p (Well, except for state house, the Democrat of our district is a pretty cool guy and actually is more of a conservative than a progressive)

As it turned out, no race that was on the ballet here was decided by a single vote. Therefore I made absolutely no difference in the outcome no matter what I decided to do!!!!!! :D

At some point you might understand the idea of the effect when 10 million '1 votes' do that.
 

EagleKeeper

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Oct 30, 2000
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If about 10K voters had shown up in a couple of key races, the Dem would have possible had some breathing room or been kicked out ofthe Senate.

One never knows which way the non-voters will swing.

Look at what happened on Prop 19 in CA.
Every pothead in the state felt that it would pass. Then they never showed up to ensure that it would.
 

manimal

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It saddens me to think that so many give up their right to have an active voice in the shape and the future of our country. I even gave my employees a half day to go out and vote....

Funny how Bristol was too busy to go vote...
 

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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Forgetting comrade Craig's political bent on this, it is sad that not more people are involved in the political process.
 

CycloWizard

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
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Maybe if they had wanted to support either side, they would have voted. Why should someone vote when they have no one they want to vote for?
 

LumbergTech

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for me it was a rejection of Obama's lack of campaign promise fullfilment

for some it was the opposite they want him to do even less of what he said he would do

if the dems want to play games and pretend to be different im not going to lend them support
 

dali71

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The real risk to our democracy is, of course, internal, the right-wing machine

butthurt.jpg
 

Red Dawn

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Forgetting comrade Craig's political bent on this, it is sad that not more people are involved in the political process.
Well when you have fresh Dogshit running against day old Dogshit it's kind if hard to get excited enough to vote unless you're into Dogshit like Craig, Spidey and PJabber.
 

Zebo

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Smart kids. 89&#37; knows it's false choice. Kids are very perceptive about people. Too bad we have to turn into adults. Well some of you do.