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jaedaddy

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yea i enabled all of those =D and i have all those programs.. i have my 1600 ram at 1600 so not oc and im not too sure about v drop control.. could you expand on that
 

Nemesis 1

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Ya when your under load the V cpu drops off to much. So your processor becomes unstable . If you engage v drop control It doesn't drop off as much allowing you to remain stable . I use MSI/ M/b . So thats what its called. In your case I have never used that brand so someone else will need to tell ya what to look for . Mine for example . I cane set V core to 1.35 but have a true reading of 1.34 under load that will drop lets say to 1.28 which is exactly were the problems begin . In my case my machine is stable @ 4.5 ghz @ 1.28 under load . I still drop off alot but I have a really nice cpu.
 

jaedaddy

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Ok, first of all I know its not much but I don't have anything actually good to give away that I wouldn't have to mail.

And I don't mean to insult your integrity, I just want to give back to this awesome community. Here are my current settings.

i5 2500k
Gigabyte GA-z68x-ud3h-b3
zotac 560 ti
ripjaws 2x4g 1600 ram
212+ cooler
OCZ ZS Series OCZ-ZS750W 750W

CPU:
OC 4.3gHz
1.36 Auto vcore
Everything at auto except for the following
Load Line : 4
Turbo Boost : Disabled

Problem: If I go to 4.4 multiplier it goes into a boot loop and will not start.
Even when I slightly increase the vcore to 1.365, 1.37, 1.375, 1.38
Boot loop...

If you can suggest the configuration to get me to 4.5/4.7gHz and at or under 1.38/1.39 vcore, I'd love to gift you the assassin's creed brotherhood game if its not an insult ..

thanks =D

Dupe thread merge
-ViRGE
 
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996GT2

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Ok, first of all I know its not much but I don't have anything actually good to give away that I wouldn't have to mail.

And I don't mean to insult your integrity, I just want to give back to this awesome community. Here are my current settings.

i5 2500k
Gigabyte GA-z68x-ud3h-b3
zotac 560 ti
ripjaws 2x4g 1600 ram
750g
OCZ ZS Series OCZ-ZS750W 750W

CPU:
OC 4.3gHz
1.36 Auto vcore
Everything at auto except for the following
Load Line : 4
Turbo Boost : Disabled

Problem: If I go to 4.4 multiplier it goes into a boot loop and will not start.
Even when I slightly increase the vcore to 1.365, 1.37, 1.375, 1.38
Boot loop...

If you can suggest the configuration to get me to 4.5/4.7gHz and at or under 1.38/1.39 vcore, I'd love to gift you the assassin's creed brotherhood game if its not an insult ..

thanks =D

Unfortunately, this boot loop issue happens with some of the lower end Gigabyte boards such as the UD3.

I would try enabling "internal PLL overvoltage" and setting the PLL voltage to 1.85 or 1.9V though.
 

jaedaddy

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Sep 22, 2011
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i will try both solutions =D

Off to church be back in 4 hours to post results..
 
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Slufa111

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What are your RAM settings? You're not oc'ing the RAM are you?

also, visit this page:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578110

Its not specific to your motherboard but a lot of the bios settings are similar. Should help a little!

I am pretty sure overclocking the RAM isn't the problem. He would have had to manually set the OC on the ram or have overclocked his CPU via FSB which we all know doesn't work out with SB. Never know though.
 

RussianSensation

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bios04.png

CPU Clock Ratio = 46x
Spread Spectrum = Disabled
BLK = Fix at 100 (so Disabled looks good)
X.M.P. Memory Profile = Enabled
System Memory Multiplier = I think 2.0 (whatever gets you to 1600mhz)

bios05.png

CPU Clock Ratio = 46x
Internal PLL CPU Overvoltage = Enabled
Real time Ratio Changes in OS = Enabled
Intel Turbo Boost = Enabled
Turbo Ratio: Set all 4 cores to 46x
Turbo Power Limit: Set it to the highest

bios06.png

X.M.P. Memory Profile = Enabled
System Memory Multiplier = I think 2.0 (whatever gets you to 1600mhz)
Performance Enhance = Standard (Change this to Turbo after you stabilize your CPU overclock)

bios07.png

DRAM Timing = make sure this is 9-9-9-24 (i.e., set it to what your ram is rated at).

bios08.png

Multi-Steps Loadline = set the highest available

Ok this part is a bit tricky:
CPU Vcore = what your CPU boots at 3.3ghz (its stock / out of the factory VID).
Dynamic VCore = what your CPU needs to get above 3.3ghz.

^ Enable CPU Vcore (Gigabyte's setting may be called "Normal") and set it to stock. Let's say yours is 1.220.
Now see the DVID setting? Add +0.160V (then 1.220V + 0.160V = 1.380V at load). If you were to add Dynamic VID as +0.200V, then your motherboard would aim for 1.420V at load (assuming your stock CPU VID was 1.220V). Makes sense?

OR To start, you can set VCORE to 1.38V right off the bat and see if this works. Later on you can just use 1.38Vcore - your CPU's stock VID + DVID setting adjustment (this is the "offset setting"). [So if we found out what VCore we needed, we could back into the required Dynamic DVID Vcore later).

QPI/VTT = Set this between 1.15V and 1.20V for overclocks beyond 4.5ghz (Using over 1.2V should only be necessary if you're pushing the CPU toward 5GHz or more)

System Agent (VCCSA) = 1.1V-1.15V for overclocks beyond 4.5ghz
CPU PLL = 1.9V

Now, if all of this works, you can try Multiplier of 47x.

Once you have the overclock stable (Run LinX 0.6.4), you can start working backwards and reducing some of these voltages a little bit to see what you really need to get this guy stable at 4.6ghz. I would leave Vcore LAST when working backwards. Start lowing them 1 by 1 and testing again. This might take some time (a bit tedious).
 
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jaedaddy

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Sep 22, 2011
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And u dont need to give out free stuff to get help.

nonononono i totally know that... i've been in and out of these forums as a lurker for a while and it is quite literally the most helpful one... like i said in my op i just wanted to give back..
 

jaedaddy

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Sep 22, 2011
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Unfortunately, this boot loop issue happens with some of the lower end Gigabyte boards such as the UD3.

I would try enabling "internal PLL overvoltage" and setting the PLL voltage to 1.85 or 1.9V though.

this did not work.
but please still understand im really grateful for your response
 

jaedaddy

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Sep 22, 2011
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a couple of issues when attempting your way...
1. xmp memory profile only has a choice of disable and profile 1, there is no enabled
2.when i go to set the turbo ratios, the 4th core does not let me change it... and if i try to change it the other 3 cores reset to normal.
3. the max on my turbo power limit is 1000 watts.. is that normal?

thank you
 

RussianSensation

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1. xmp memory profile only has a choice of disable and profile 1, there is no enabled

Yes, set it to Profile 1.

2.when i go to set the turbo ratios, the 4th core does not let me change it... and if i try to change it the other 3 cores reset to normal.

Ok then disable Turbo and hard set the 46x multiplier like you did before.

3. the max on my turbo power limit is 1000 watts.. is that normal?

What options do you have? Just raise it to 300W so that this isn't a limit for you.
 

taltamir

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People have already explained that you should only alter your multiplier.
But nobody explained the following to you
when i go to run this windows won't boot =\ just goes into an infinite loop

An unstable overclock is one in which the CPU makes mistakes, as in 2+2=5 mistakes. A mistake at the wrong time will cause your OS to hang/crash/blue screen or corrupt files. During bootup windows is rather susceptible to crashing hard at a mistake, and it will crash and reboot if that happens. Not EVERY error during bootup is guarenteed to crash it though, and the fact that it does it repeatedly means you are having MANY errors rather then just one here and there.

This is a surefire sign that you need to scale back your OC attempt by a LOT.

When you do manage to go into windows and run an OC testing tool and it lists "errors" that means it is still unstable enough that you are getting results on the math it is performing that don't match the known answer (due to your CPU making errors). Your CPU should have 0 errors, not even 1 is acceptable. If you have 0 errors 2 hours of testing that does not mean you are 100% stable OC though. Different programs stress your CPU to a different amount and it might be barely unstable where it has just 1 error a day which you aren't catching with those 2 hours of testing.

You should find the highest OC at which you testing out as "stable" and then dial it back some, I recommend 200mhz below the highest you tested stable on. So if you get errors at 4.1ghz but not at 4.0ghz then set it to 3.8ghz. And make sure you are using no more than default voltage and with all power management features like EIST and C1E enabled.
 

jaedaddy

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Sep 22, 2011
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Thank you all so much. I learned a lot and will be on here to offer my limited experience with oc to others...
sadly none of the solutions worked but I am ok with 4.3 gHz on my cpu and 1 gHz on my zotac 560 ti...

I guess pride just got the best of me.

Thank you all and good luck in your endeavors =D.

CPU: i5-2500k oc 4.3gHz
HEATSINK: Cooler Master 212+
MOBO: GA-z68x-ud3h-b3
PSU: 750w OCZ ZS750w
GPU: Zotac 560 ti oc 1gHz
MEMORY: 2X4 ripjaws ddr3 1600 @ 9-9-9-24
HD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200rpm 1TB
 

RussianSensation

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Thank you all so much. I learned a lot and will be on here to offer my limited experience with oc to others...
sadly none of the solutions worked but I am ok with 4.3 gHz on my cpu and 1 gHz on my zotac 560 ti...

I guess pride just got the best of me.

Thank you all and good luck in your endeavors =D.

B

Ok try this:

1. Reset everything to Auto.

For the next 2 screens set exactly as they have it
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1677/z68xp-ud3-issd-bios-oc2.jpg

and
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1677/z68xp-ud3-issd-bios-oc.jpg

Except these 2 differences:

1. Set Vcore to 1.400 not 1.500V

2.when i go to set the turbo ratios, the 4th core does not let me change it... and if i try to change it the other 3 cores reset to normal.

2. Set Multiplier to 46x not 50x (see how they have it set 50x to all 4 cores). You said previously you were unable to set 46x to the 4th core. You should be able to do this if you follow everything they have done line by line.