No Oil in Hati . . .

[CaptnKirk]

(Tried to set a link, but the website re-router failed)

President Bush on Wednesday rebuffed Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide's appeal for immediate security assistance to head off a rebel advance and warned Haitians not to flee to the United States.

Aristide, trying to fend off a bloody revolt against his presidency by insurgents, had appealed for international help for his outgunned police. But Bush was insistent that peacekeepers only be sent once a political settlement to the crisis was reached.

The United States has been criticized for doing too little to staunch the chaos in the poorest nation in the Americas. U.S. officials have emphasized negotiation and said security forces should be sent only after violence abates. Critics fear waiting for a peace deal will allow more chaos.

 

[alchemize]

Guess he doesn't want the Army to be a tool for a dictator like someone else we all knew Go to the UN, they're great at preventing humanitarian disasters!

 

[GoPackGo]

Aristide is evil and crazy...lets let the UN handle this one and see how they do.

 

[b0mbrman]

Didn't we send SASO troops ten years ago? Or did they still have oil back then?

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Didn't we send SASO troops ten years ago? Or did they still have oil back then?

i think we had a different president.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Guess he doesn't want the Army to be a tool for a dictator like someone else we all knew Go to the UN, they're great at preventing humanitarian disasters!

so there is a dictator there, why isnt Bush there in the front removing him?

 

[maddogchen]

I thought the French said they would help

 

[ReiAyanami]

they don't have any weapons of mass corruption

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: alchemize
Guess he doesn't want the Army to be a tool for a dictator like someone else we all knew Go to the UN, they're great at preventing humanitarian disasters!

so there is a dictator there, why isnt Bush there in the front removing him?

One at a time.

 

[etech]

True, there's no oil in Haiti.

There are also no U.N. Sanctions on Haiti.

Haiti has not invaded it's neighbors and caused millions of deaths.

Hatit has not had programs consisting of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Haiti does have a despot for a president and they are taking care of the situation, Iraq didn't.


Is that enough or do I need to continue explaining the obvious?

 

[maddogchen]

No, I don't think they quite understood yet. Keep going, your doing great!

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: alchemize
Guess he doesn't want the Army to be a tool for a dictator like someone else we all knew Go to the UN, they're great at preventing humanitarian disasters!

so there is a dictator there, why isnt Bush there in the front removing him?

One at a time.

so when is your guess the next one will be... taken out?
next 4 years?

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: alchemize
Guess he doesn't want the Army to be a tool for a dictator like someone else we all knew Go to the UN, they're great at preventing humanitarian disasters!

so there is a dictator there, why isnt Bush there in the front removing him?

One at a time.

so when is your guess the next one will be... taken out?
next 4 years?

As soon as we have solid proof...which, btw, we won't be able to share with the public (even if it turns out to be false)

 

[galperi1]

Originally posted by: etech
True, there's no oil in Haiti.

There are also no U.N. Sanctions on Haiti.

Haiti has not invaded it's neighbors and caused millions of deaths.

Hatit has not had programs consisting of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Haiti does have a despot for a president and they are taking care of the situation, Iraq didn't.


Is that enough or do I need to continue explaining the obvious?

Didn't you get the party message??? We didn't go into Iraq for any of those reasons. We went in to free people from a corrupt dictator. How is this situation any different??

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: galperi1

Originally posted by: etech
True, there's no oil in Haiti.

There are also no U.N. Sanctions on Haiti.

Haiti has not invaded it's neighbors and caused millions of deaths.

Hatit has not had programs consisting of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Haiti does have a despot for a president and they are taking care of the situation, Iraq didn't.


Is that enough or do I need to continue explaining the obvious?

Didn't you get the party message??? We didn't go into Iraq for any of those reasons. We went in to free people from a corrupt dictator. How is this situation any different??

the UN had 17 resolutions against Iraq
Iraq used chemical weapons against its own civilians
Iraq invaded a neighboring country without provocation

Haiti wasnt suspect of having illegal weapons programs
Haiti hast played games with the UN [that we know of anyway]
the Haitian president didnt murder the citizens of his country wantonly

and, the Haitian president isnt a big dick that no one really likes [or is he? :Q]

 

[heartsurgeon]

President Bush on Wednesday rebuffed Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide's appeal for immediate security assistance to head off a rebel advance and warned Haitians not to flee to the United States.
Aristide, trying to fend off a bloody revolt against his presidency by insurgents, had appealed for international help for his outgunned police. But Bush was insistent that peacekeepers only be sent once a political settlement to the crisis was reached.
The United States has been criticized for doing too little to staunch the chaos in the poorest nation in the Americas. U.S. officials have emphasized negotiation and said security forces should be sent only after violence abates. Critics fear waiting for a peace deal will allow more chaos.

this post is devoid of any historical context, or for that matter, any point at all.,,please read the following post to understand what Bush 1 did with Haiti during a similar sitiuation, what Clinton did with Haiti during a similar situation, what the U.N. did with Haiti during a similar situation.

try reading and learning something about the situation before offering solutions..or laying blame upon anyone..

Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs

 

[EXman]

I wish there was oil on your ass so we shoot down these turd threads.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: galperi1

Originally posted by: etech
True, there's no oil in Haiti.

There are also no U.N. Sanctions on Haiti.

Haiti has not invaded it's neighbors and caused millions of deaths.

Hatit has not had programs consisting of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Haiti does have a despot for a president and they are taking care of the situation, Iraq didn't.


Is that enough or do I need to continue explaining the obvious?

Didn't you get the party message??? We didn't go into Iraq for any of those reasons. We went in to free people from a corrupt dictator. How is this situation any different??

Any you really that stupid. Try a reading comprehension course. The reasons to remove Saddam were many and varied. It's only the dems and the sheep that baah baah in unison that try to make it a single reason.

Get some education, you're boring.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

The article in question.

 

[colonel]

The United States has been criticized for doing too little to staunch the chaos in the poorest nation in the Americas. U.S. officials have emphasized negotiation and said security forces should be sent only after violence abates. Critics fear waiting for a peace deal will allow more chaos.

the thing is there is nothing of value in the little inland to risk American lives, you will see a lot of boats coming to America.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: galperi1

Originally posted by: etech
True, there's no oil in Haiti.

There are also no U.N. Sanctions on Haiti.

Haiti has not invaded it's neighbors and caused millions of deaths.

Hatit has not had programs consisting of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Haiti does have a despot for a president and they are taking care of the situation, Iraq didn't.


Is that enough or do I need to continue explaining the obvious?

Didn't you get the party message??? We didn't go into Iraq for any of those reasons. We went in to free people from a corrupt dictator. How is this situation any different??

the UN had 17 resolutions against Iraq
Iraq used chemical weapons against its own civilians
Iraq invaded a neighboring country without provocation

Haiti wasnt suspect of having illegal weapons programs
Haiti hast played games with the UN [that we know of anyway]
the Haitian president didnt murder the citizens of his country wantonly

and, the Haitian president isnt a big dick that no one really likes [or is he? :Q]

You forgot that we also had dodgy Intel that Bush could cherry pick to mislead the American Public into supporting his excellent adventure in Iraq, No such dodgy intel that Bush could use to mislead us into supporting another one of his excellent adventures exist regarding Haiti

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: galperi1

Originally posted by: etech
True, there's no oil in Haiti.

There are also no U.N. Sanctions on Haiti.

Haiti has not invaded it's neighbors and caused millions of deaths.

Hatit has not had programs consisting of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Haiti does have a despot for a president and they are taking care of the situation, Iraq didn't.


Is that enough or do I need to continue explaining the obvious?

Didn't you get the party message??? We didn't go into Iraq for any of those reasons. We went in to free people from a corrupt dictator. How is this situation any different??

the UN had 17 resolutions against Iraq
Iraq used chemical weapons against its own civilians
Iraq invaded a neighboring country without provocation

Haiti wasnt suspect of having illegal weapons programs
Haiti hast played games with the UN [that we know of anyway]
the Haitian president didnt murder the citizens of his country wantonly

and, the Haitian president isnt a big dick that no one really likes [or is he? :Q]

You forgot that we also had dodgy Intel that Bush could cherry pick to mislead the American Public into supporting his excellent adventure in Iraq, No such dodgy intel that Bush could use to mislead us into supporting another one of his excellent adventures exist regarding Haiti

You are right Red, there was intel about Iraq's weapons programs that has since proved to be wrong. There is no such intel about Haiti. Thank you for pointing out another difference between the two countries and why the response should be different.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: galperi1

Originally posted by: etech
True, there's no oil in Haiti.

There are also no U.N. Sanctions on Haiti.

Haiti has not invaded it's neighbors and caused millions of deaths.

Hatit has not had programs consisting of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Haiti does have a despot for a president and they are taking care of the situation, Iraq didn't.


Is that enough or do I need to continue explaining the obvious?

Didn't you get the party message??? We didn't go into Iraq for any of those reasons. We went in to free people from a corrupt dictator. How is this situation any different??

the UN had 17 resolutions against Iraq
Iraq used chemical weapons against its own civilians
Iraq invaded a neighboring country without provocation

Haiti wasnt suspect of having illegal weapons programs
Haiti hast played games with the UN [that we know of anyway]
the Haitian president didnt murder the citizens of his country wantonly

and, the Haitian president isnt a big dick that no one really likes [or is he? :Q]

You forgot that we also had dodgy Intel that Bush could cherry pick to mislead the American Public into supporting his excellent adventure in Iraq, No such dodgy intel that Bush could use to mislead us into supporting another one of his excellent adventures exist regarding Haiti

You are right Red, there was intel about Iraq's weapons programs that has since proved to be wrong. There is no such intel about Haiti. Thank you for pointing out another difference between the two countries and why the response should be different.

As long as we keep them from our shores I could give a rats ass what happens to them. I agreed with Bush when he said during his campaign that we should not be the Worlds Policeman" Too bad he never meant that!

 

[CaptnKirk]

A little 'History' about Hati . .

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: galperi1

Originally posted by: etech
True, there's no oil in Haiti.

There are also no U.N. Sanctions on Haiti.

Haiti has not invaded it's neighbors and caused millions of deaths.

Hatit has not had programs consisting of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Haiti does have a despot for a president and they are taking care of the situation, Iraq didn't.


Is that enough or do I need to continue explaining the obvious?

Didn't you get the party message??? We didn't go into Iraq for any of those reasons. We went in to free people from a corrupt dictator. How is this situation any different??

the UN had 17 resolutions against Iraq
Iraq used chemical weapons against its own civilians
Iraq invaded a neighboring country without provocation

Haiti wasnt suspect of having illegal weapons programs
Haiti hast played games with the UN [that we know of anyway]
the Haitian president didnt murder the citizens of his country wantonly

and, the Haitian president isnt a big dick that no one really likes [or is he? :Q]

You forgot that we also had dodgy Intel that Bush could cherry pick to mislead the American Public into supporting his excellent adventure in Iraq, No such dodgy intel that Bush could use to mislead us into supporting another one of his excellent adventures exist regarding Haiti

What people fail to realize...especially those like Genesys who cite all these reasons...is that without this intel we wouldn't have gone to war with Iraq. Regardless whether the intel was correct or not, the Iraqis would still be under Saddam's rule without the threat of WMD. It's a little comical for people to keep saying "Saddam did this. Saddam did that. So we took him out." That's wrong.

Take all the reasons that have been cited in this thread so far (17 resolutions, gas, war with Kuwait, etc). Now add NO threat of WMD. What do you get? A big fat WHO CARES.

My wife bought me a 6-pack today. Isn't she an angel? Of course, she never would've gone to the store if we weren't out of milk.