No more uTorrent for me...

homercles337

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Apparently uTorrent does not play well with nVidia firewall. This causes system instability like you would not believe. Today it has been hard reboots. Well, to hell with them, im done. I guess i will give Azareus a try.
 

Atheus

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It is the nVidia firewall causing the instability, not uTorrent. There's nothing wrong with uTorrent.

The windows XP SP2 firewall and the use of a non-microsoft browser should provide plenty of security.
 

secretanchitman

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Originally posted by: Atheus
It is the nVidia firewall causing the instability, not uTorrent. There's nothing wrong with uTorrent.

The windows XP SP2 firewall and the use of a non-microsoft browser should provide plenty of security.

agreed.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: Atheus
It is the nVidia firewall causing the instability, not uTorrent. There's nothing wrong with uTorrent.

The windows XP SP2 firewall and the use of a non-microsoft browser should provide plenty of security.

Nope. Not true. I have been using this firewall for nearly a year with NO problems at all. Plus, uTorrent throws a warning that it doesnt like the nVidia firewall. If theyre aware of the problem it should be fixed. This firewall has been around for a long time. Nice try at defending uTorrent though.

I like how you use the word "should." I disagree with your assessment as do many others. Have you used or do you know anything about this firewall?
 

EQTitan

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Don't slam someone because they are giving thier opinion. I used my DFI Lanparty Ultra-D with "built-in" nVidia Firewall and had no problems using uTorrent, and I used uTorrent before I got the board and it worked fine after I configured the firewall corrently. Then again it's has been said before "your results may vary"....thats said it does work with the nVidia firewall. I'm not sure what problem you may be experiencing when you say "uTorrent throws a warning that it doesn't like the nVidia firewall". Please explain maybe someone can be of some help, and by no means think I'm pulling for uTorrent it's a good piece of software but every piece of software has it's bugs.

Thanks
 

Nothinman

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I have been using this firewall for nearly a year with NO problems at all.

So? That doesn't prove that it's bug free.

Plus, uTorrent throws a warning that it doesnt like the nVidia firewall. If theyre aware of the problem it should be fixed. This firewall has been around for a long time.

Maybe displaying a warning is all they can do because the bug is in the nVidia firewall?

I like how you use the word "should." I disagree with your assessment as do many others. Have you used or do you know anything about this firewall?

The assessment is only false if the person using the machine doesn't have any common sense.
 

duragezic

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I've seen nothing but major instability and problems when using the Nvidia Firewall on my NF4 board. I use my router and if I want, a good software one like Kerio or Sygate. Not to say uTorrent is bug-free but the NV Firewall is pretty unpopular for a reason.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Nope. Not true. I have been using this firewall for nearly a year with NO problems at all.

Well that's nice, but now you have a problem, don't you. Thousands of others also have similar problems - wanna guess the common factor?

Plus, uTorrent throws a warning that it doesnt like the nVidia firewall. If theyre aware of the problem it should be fixed. This firewall has been around for a long time.

There really is nothing wrong with uTorrent - check yourself. From the FAQ on the uTorrent site:

"If you find your µTorrent process uses a huge amount of memory abnormally, or steadily increasing for no reason (especially with DHT on), and you use the NVIDIA integrated firewall, you MUST UNINSTALL THE FIREWALL. Disabling it will not work! The firewall has a serious bug (which has NOT been fixed to this date) that causes many programs to leak large amounts of memory. It is NOT a µTorrent bug. There is no fix for this, you MUST uninstall the NVIDIA Firewall. However, the latest version of the NVIDIA Firewall (bundled with the newest nForce drivers) appears to fix this problem. µTorrent still presents the warning dialog, but this will be rectified in the next version."

So not only do they confirm this is an nVidia bug, they confirm it's fixed in the latest drivers.

Nice try at defending uTorrent though.

Thanks, I thought so too.

I like how you use the word "should." I disagree with your assessment as do many others.

Really? The windows firewall does not check outbound traffic, but you shouldn't need to check outbound anyway, not in a home network. Unless your computers are full of spyware. So it "should", barring idiocy, provide enough security.

Have you used or do you know anything about this firewall?

I know quite a bit about firewalls. No I do not use this particular firewall. Because it is crap.



 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: EQTitan
Don't slam someone because they are giving thier opinion. I used my DFI Lanparty Ultra-D with "built-in" nVidia Firewall and had no problems using uTorrent, and I used uTorrent before I got the board and it worked fine after I configured the firewall corrently. Then again it's has been said before "your results may vary"....thats said it does work with the nVidia firewall. I'm not sure what problem you may be experiencing when you say "uTorrent throws a warning that it doesn't like the nVidia firewall". Please explain maybe someone can be of some help, and by no means think I'm pulling for uTorrent it's a good piece of software but every piece of software has it's bugs.

Thanks

As soon as uTorrent launches it throws a "uTorrent is not compatible with the nVidia firewall..." i typed all this out in another thread i started a few days ago (BitComet memory leak or something). The thing is i have been using BitComet for some time with no problems until i upgraded to 0.7. Moved to uTorrent and its worse--hard reboots and windows locking up. People here tell me to use the MS firewall which is the at the bottom of nearly every test. Plus, it has one option, ON/OFF. Hrmph. When your keys open your door every day for a year, then you change the locks do you blame the keys because you cant unlock your door?
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: Atheus
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Well, then i dont have the usual problems that would result in a FAQ. With nVidia working and configured properly--uTorrent brings the hurt (hard reboots, system freeze, etc) with no excessive memory issues. Turn firewall off (no uninstall) uTorrent runs fine. Hmmm, now what did i say originally? I think it was, "uTorrent does not play well with nVidia firewall." BTW, im using the old nVidia drivers. So much for your "it is NOT a uTorrent bug" comment, eh?

Also, thanks for showing your own ignorance since you "know quite a bit about firewalls." Did your TA have 2 minute chat with you about them between classes? You dont use this firewall probably because you a) have a router, or b) dont have an nForce 3/4. Also, this "crap" has caught a handful of things that were inbound. You sound like a fan boi so just drop it. uTorrent is not going to play with my system so im going to drop uTorrent.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Well, then i dont have the usual problems that would result in a FAQ.

The uTorrent site confirms there are problems using it with the nVidia firewall, and that there is no way to fix them by patching uTorrent. Even though you do not have the memory issue mentioned, you do have problems, and since you know that the nVidia firewall casues problems when using these two together, I fail to see why you would blame uTorrent. It doesn't make sense.

So much for your "it is NOT a uTorrent bug" comment, eh?

That was from the uTorrent site.

Also, thanks for showing your own ignorance since you "know quite a bit about firewalls." Did your TA have 2 minute chat with you about them between classes?

I designed and wrote an adaptive firewalling and intrusion detection system for my final project. It got a very good mark and I have since had some interest in commercializing it. I have have also set up security for webservers, mail servers, intrusion tested other people's security, etc. Not that it matters at it doesn't take any deep knowlege to see the likely root of this problem - just common sense.

You dont use this firewall probably because you a) have a router, or b) dont have an nForce 3/4. Also, this "crap" has caught a handful of things that were inbound. You sound like a fan boi so just drop it. uTorrent is not going to play with my system so im going to drop uTorrent.

Good luck with that.
 

Mem

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Also, thanks for showing your own ignorance since you "know quite a bit about firewalls." Did your TA have 2 minute chat with you about them between classes? You dont use this firewall probably because you a) have a router, or b) dont have an nForce 3/4. Also, this "crap" has caught a handful of things that were inbound. You sound like a fan boi so just drop it. uTorrent is not going to play with my system so im going to drop uTorrent.


It is a known bug ,

Help! My µTorrent process is using a ton of memory! (NVIDIA Firewall )

If you find your µTorrent process uses a huge amount of memory abnormally, or steadily increasing for no reason (especially with DHT on), and you use the NVIDIA integrated firewall, you MUST UNINSTALL THE FIREWALL. Disabling it will not work! The firewall has a serious bug (which has NOT been fixed to this date) that causes many programs to leak large amounts of memory. It is NOT a µTorrent bug.

There is no fix for this, you MUST uninstall the NVIDIA Firewall. However, the latest version of the NVIDIA Firewall (bundled with the newest nForce drivers) appears to fix this problem. µTorrent still presents the warning dialog, but this will be rectified in the next version.




read incompatible software section for info, ,personally most wise nforce 4 users avoid the Nvidia firewall including myself,mainly because it was buggy and they never got it working the way it was designed,the latest version fixes most problems ,however it gives higher cpu usage from what I have read,you are better off with a router or good software firewall.

Don't blame uTorrent,Nvidia firewall has a huge troubled history,things like causing corrupted downloads etc...disk errors to name a few,true a lot of issues have been fixed but personally I would avoid it like the plague.


 

RedBeard

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Nvidia firewall doesn't like the internet.

Uninstall and use something else. Just because it is free and came with your board doesn't mean it is the best or you have to use it.
I *did* use it, but it caused too many problems. Check around (many people had issues with it). uTorrent works great btw.
If your not willing to listen to what everyone is telling you then shut up.
 

n7

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nVidia firewall is reknowned for having issues.

Heck, i heard of so many issues i never once dared to install it on any of my nForce mobos.

LOL @ you getting rid of uTorrent because you like buggy stuff from nVidia :D
 

letdown427

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nVidia firewall is indeed renound for being crap. Check out over at DFI-street for example, they explicitely demand that you do NOT install it. It is evil.
 

xtknight

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Spelling renowned is quite renowned as well. (wtf, the music I was playing just said renowned as I typed this.. talk about scary)

The NVIDIA firewall is really buggy (their IDE drivers are too). Corrupt downloads is an extremely common problem.
 

DayLaPaul

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Never used an Nvidia router but would just like to add that it is renoun for having issues ;)