no more medical mmj in wash state

[futurefields]

gonna have to pay double at the rec shops cuz inslee's a dork

 

[jlee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XTpCwicwE

 

[DaveSimmons]

In my opinion, marijuana sales should be legal but regulated and taxed just like cigarettes and alcohol.

Also, the feds are only willing to stand back from enforcing federal laws if the states do their own regulation. So poorly-regulated and untaxed "medical" sales for recreational use were not acceptable.

 

[Markbnj]

In my opinion, marijuana sales should be legal but regulated and taxed just like cigarettes and alcohol.

Also, the feds are only willing to stand back from enforcing federal laws if the states do their own regulation. So poorly-regulated and untaxed "medical" sales for recreational use were not acceptable.

Agreed. I'm convinced that there are compounds that can be made from cannabis that have medical value, but as far as I am concerned the plant itself is an intoxicant and should be regulated as an intoxicant.

 

[futurefields]

the mmj industry is regulated its just not taxed which is what this is all about = tax dollars

 

[KeithTalent]

the mmj industry is regulated its just not taxed which is what this is all about = tax dollars

Should totally be taxed. Just make it like cigs and alchol. Done deal.

KT

 

[DaveSimmons]

the mmj industry is regulated its just not taxed which is what this is all about = tax dollars

Partly. It was a poorly regulated system set up before legalization, with a large part of "medical" sales going to recreational users. After legalization it made no sense to let the recreational sales continue tax-free.

 

[OutHouse]

So what is this thread about?

 

[DaveSimmons]

So what is this thread about?

futurefields griping about paying taxes on his legal weed purchases for recreational use in WA state.

 

[TheGardener]

futurefields griping about paying taxes on his legal weed purchases for recreational use in WA state.

More freedom, more taxes.

 

[futurefields]

Should totally be taxed. Just make it like cigs and alchol. Done deal.

KT

But then people who use it for legitimate medical reasons like me are going to have to spend twice as much money for the same amount of product.

Thank God I don't have cancer but what about those who use mmj for pain management and appetite stimulation?

 

[Possessed Freak]

But then people who use it for legitimate medical reasons like me
...

Thank God I don't have cancer

Independent of this, I can see the following: Medical grade (LEGITIMATE USE ONLY), and recreational grade (Hippies better pay taxes).

 

[KeithTalent]

But then people who use it for legitimate medical reasons like me are going to have to spend twice as much money for the same amount of product.

Thank God I don't have cancer but what about those who use mmj for pain management and appetite stimulation?

Just need specific prescription medical stuff with more stringent requirements to get it from the doctor and have it covered the same as other prescription meds.

KT

 

[mmntech]

It's like the prohibition era when enterprising doctors were using legal "medicinal alcohol" to make some cash on the side. Some things never change.

I'm sure pot has medicinal properties (particularly as a non-opiod pain killer), but recreational users should have to pay tax on it and deal with the same regulations as tobacco and alcohol.

 

[Markbnj]

I'm sure pot has medicinal properties (particularly as a non-opiod pain killer), but recreational users should have to pay tax on it and deal with the same regulations as tobacco and alcohol.

The thing is, the tax on those substances is because of the damage they are known to do and the resulting costs to society. I agree that cannabis should be regulated as an intoxicant, but what is the basis for taxing it? In part at least to pay for the regulation, that much I'll admit. But I don't want to see the punitive taxes on cannabis that the idiot politicians have put on tobacco sales.

 

[DaveSimmons]

The thing is, the tax on those substances is because of the damage they are known to do and the resulting costs to society. I agree that cannabis should be regulated as an intoxicant, but what is the basis for taxing it? In part at least to pay for the regulation, that much I'll admit. But I don't want to see the punitive taxes on cannabis that the idiot politicians have put on tobacco sales.

In WA it's a sin tax just like on cigarettes and alcohol.

We have no state income or capital gains taxes, so property and sales taxes take up the slack. In theory the pot taxes were supposed to be earmarked for regulation and for treatment and prevention of abuse. Of course a big chunk of the money is already being diverted to other uses.

I'm a little worried that the revenue-seeking politicians will mess up legalization by over-taxing it to the point where the black market continues to thrive. Hopefully if that happens then reason will prevail and the tax bite will be reduced.

 

[Markbnj]

I'm a little worried that the revenue-seeking politicians will mess up legalization by over-taxing it to the point where the black market continues to thrive. Hopefully if that happens then reason will prevail and the tax bite will be reduced.

I think in most areas there is still a pretty active black market in unstamped tobacco and liquor, so I guess anytime they add regulatory costs they provide an opportunity.

 

[DaveSimmons]

I think in most areas there is still a pretty active black market in unstamped tobacco and liquor, so I guess anytime they add regulatory costs they provide an opportunity.

Sure, you'll never get rid of black markets. Some people will always try to save money.

But if the taxes are reasonable then most people will buy their booze, cigarettes or pot from the kwik-e-mart instead of off the street. The regulated pot will also be safer to use, just like the mini-mart booze is rarely cut with methanol.

Hooch kills 84 in India: http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-toxic-hooch-in-india-leaves-84-dead-20150620-story.html

 

[mikeford]

I don't see why everyone wouldn't grow their own.

 

[Markbnj]

Sure, you'll never get rid of black markets. Some people will always try to save money.

But if the taxes are reasonable then most people will buy their booze, cigarettes or pot from the kwik-e-mart instead of off the street. The regulated pot will also be safer to use, just like the mini-mart booze is rarely cut with methanol.

Hooch kills 84 in India: http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-toxic-hooch-in-india-leaves-84-dead-20150620-story.html

Yeah bad booze was historically a big problem before regulation. It's a little harder to doctor cannabis or cheapen it, but not impossible. There's perhaps a close analogy with growing food plants for consumption, along with the analogy to alcohol production.

 

[pcgeek11]

So what is this thread about?

Dopes and Dope.