No more last meals in Texas

[Moonbeam]

Children that are made to behave via violence and threat love to see bad people suffer. It is only their own fear of being evil themselves that requires the existence of retribution. They feel instinctively that all other people are like them, that the world would be chaos and violence, just like happened to them as children, if real compassion existed in the world. All those folk who behave only our of terror and fear and have no real internalized virtue, demand that evil be punished. They hate and pervert what it means to be like Christ and forgive. And because hate is blindness you will never make people see this. All that one can do is forgive the poor tortured souls like this because they know not what they do. Only he who forgives others will ever be able to forgive himself for believing there's such a thing as evil. There is no evil. There is only the deeply inculcated belief that one is worthless and that and only that is the original sin.

 

[Fern]

As usual, one azzhole ruins it for everyone else.

Fern

 

[Wreckem]

They shouldn't do away with it, just limit it.

Cleve Foster, the guy who got a stay the day before only wanted like fried chicken and five gallons of peaches. A lot of the time its just like ice cream or something similar.

 

[RPD]

They should have just put a limit on it, say like $100 or something max. (Do they get a drink to go with it? i.e. some high end wiskey or wine)

 

[Spikesoldier]

i recall one texas death row inmate making a request for dirt, because he felt like a POS and felt like he should eat dirt before he died.

the cook whipped up the crushed oreos 'dirt' and gummy worms instead.

 

[ichy]

They should have just put a limit on it, say like $100 or something max. (Do they get a drink to go with it? i.e. some high end wiskey or wine)

Lol, no, no American state allows prisoners to have booze before they're executed.

 

[monovillage]

He's named himself after the dick character from Back to the Future and acts the part. What did you expect, butthead?

I thought he named himself after Biff Hooper of The Hardy Boys book series.

 

[xBiffx]

I thought he named himself after Biff Hooper of The Hardy Boys book series.

One might see where you could make that mistake. That one...is thraashman.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

They should have just put a limit on it, say like $100 or something max. (Do they get a drink to go with it? i.e. some high end wiskey or wine)

That's a good idea. I don't have a problem with giving them a last meal, as others said it's the civilized thing to do. The system is supposed to be about justice, not vengeance.

 

[Cogman]

That's a good idea. I don't have a problem with giving them a last meal, as others said it's the civilized thing to do. The system is supposed to be about justice, not vengeance.

The problem is really that most inmates on death row don't eat. It really isn't uncommon for the inmates to eat nothing.

I have no problem with the last meal, just a problem with a big last meal.

They should limit the price to 3x whatever meal you can get at a fast food restaurant.

 

[werepossum]

Lol, no, no American state allows prisoners to have booze before they're executed.

Evidently if you are executed while drunk, you've escaped punishment.

 

[sportage]

Why not just feed then a happy meal, and bypass the formal execution? Works for most other Americans...

 

[ultimatebob]

I wonder if there was a price limit earlier? If not, I would have ordered a bottle of 1980 Dom Perignon and a tin of Beluga Caviar to go with my 32 oz Wagyu Rib Eye... medium rare with a side dish of white truffles.

Hell... by the time I was done ordering my final meal, it would have been cheaper to give me a life sentence instead

 

[Nebor]

I wonder if there was a price limit earlier? If not, I would have ordered a bottle of 1980 Dom Perignon and a tin of Beluga Caviar to go with my 32 oz Wagyu Rib Eye... medium rare with a side dish of white truffles.

Hell... by the time I was done ordering my final meal, it would have been cheaper to give me a life sentence instead

There's never been any alcohol allowed and as far as I know, it's way cheaper to give someone a life sentence than the death penalty due to legal costs.

 

[Lemon law]

For the record I am again the death penality on general principles.

But still this big and fancy last meal arguement is supercillious. Its sorta like sending your kid to bed without its supper on steroids. The death penalty inmate will learn nothing from that last meal, Only something that we can feel good about as we the people commit murder in a final act of stupidity and brutality.

The finer the last meal, the more humane we can all feel. Never mind the fact, that some of the victims may be in fact be innocent.

 

[woolfe9999]

Why can it entirely? The guy asked for like 10 different things and they gave them all to him. Just limit it to one entre, one side, one salad, and a dessert.

 

[Craig234]

I've wondered for many years if the right would at some point go after this tradition.

'Why the hell are we spending a penny on these criminals?'

So, it's finally happened.

I have liked the tradition, with generous allowance, but of course - end capital punishment is the real issue.

 

[Jadow]

http://deadmaneating.blogspot.com/

 

[Jadow]

http://zombie-popcorn.com/?p=317

man they love dr. pepper

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I had to laugh at this. Not only did Lawrence Russel Brewer commit a horrible crime, he then commits a final act of dickheadishness and screws over other TX death row inmates by ordering a huge last meal and not eating it.

It was his final "Fuck you!" to society. I'd probably do the same thing. After all, it doesn't hurt to ask and it's not like he'll be punished any further for making such a request or for not eating the meal anyway. (What would they do, execute him?)

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

Ok so anyway.

Back to the regular discussion.

Ignoring the childish bickering.

I do not have a problem with a last meal, just make it less ridiculous.

 

[ichy]

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_18980390

HOUSTON—A former Texas inmate who cooked the final meals for hundreds of condemned prisoners is offering to start doing it again at no cost to the state now that officials have ended the practice of allowing the special last requests.

Brian Price, who wrote a cookbook called "Meals to Die For," about his former duties and now runs a restaurant on Houston County Lake in East Texas, said Monday the move by prison officials was "cold-hearted." If it's tax dollars people are worried about, he said, he'll make a last meal for free for any condemned inmate in Texas.

 

[Unheard]

I'd probably order liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

 

[Perknose]

Oh the irony!!!

On topic, I always thought the "tradition" of a last meal was a good idea. I think its a way of showing civility. Yes, the condemned is about to be executed but we don't go about it like old Roman times in the Coliseum or exploiting it on reality TV. This was one way of trying to keep the whole procedure respectful.

:thumbsup:

As usual, one azzhole ruins it for everyone else.

Fern

Yeah, but let's be clear here. That azzhole wasn't Lawrence Russel Brewer, it was the pandering politician who played to the ugliest, basest instincts of the lynch mob for temporary political gain.

 

[werepossum]

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_18980390

Sounds like a good deal for everyone involved.