No more High end Agp cards

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache
The big moan is because I'm about to buy a dell 2005 fpw and I bet my 6800 GT will stuggle at the fpw's native res. playing with plenty of AA on the games I play.

no it wont.

the 2005 has less viewing area and pixels then a 2001fp, my 6800gt and a64 3000 runs my games at 16x12 w/o any problems.

Now if you are going to a 2405 then your right, cause my 6800gt is struggling to do 1920x1200 w/ 4aa 8as.

 

[BGuardian75]

It has been stated time and time again that ATI is bringing the entire r5x line to AGP so relax. I'm perfectly happy with my setup and should last me another year so no one is "forcing" me to upgrade. These transitionary phases are a pain in the ass I agree but it isn't too bad as you can get 754/pci-e boards and there is ULi. I have the money to upgrade, I just don't want to yet.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache
The big moan is because I'm about to buy a dell 2005 fpw and I bet my 6800 GT will stuggle at the fpw's native res. playing with plenty of AA on the games I play.

Well to answer your question, yes you will have problems with some games running at 1680x1050 with AA/AF cranked up with 6800GT, while I don't have that card, my X800XL is very close performance wise and I have some unacceptable FPS problems. Basically I'm getting the same performance with my X800XL + 2005FPW that I was getting with my 9800 Pro + 19" Samsung panel at 1280x1024, so much for upgrading.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
Get over it. Consumers shouldn't have to bear the cost of retro-fitted AGP cards because some are too cheap to upgrade their motherboard every few years.

So pass the extra $10 or so on to the person who still wants AGP. Then it won't affect the price of PCI-E cards and manufacturers can sell even more cards.

Do you see any high end VESA cards on the shelf? No.

Do you see any high end PCI cards on the shelf? No.

This is because the industry has moved on and left these types of motherboards in the past. Lets say Lavaheadache get's his wish and there are ATI/nVidia cards made for AGP.

What about next gen? Should they keep making AGP cards then? Some guys will surely have good AGP boards still?

The point is sometimes you just have to suck it up and get with the times.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
Get over it. Consumers shouldn't have to bear the cost of retro-fitted AGP cards because some are too cheap to upgrade their motherboard every few years.

So pass the extra $10 or so on to the person who still wants AGP. Then it won't affect the price of PCI-E cards and manufacturers can sell even more cards.

Do you see any high end VESA cards on the shelf? No.

Do you see any high end PCI cards on the shelf? No.

This is because the industry has moved on and left these types of motherboards in the past. Lets say Lavaheadache get's his wish and there are ATI/nVidia cards made for AGP.

What about next gen? Should they keep making AGP cards then? Some guys will surely have good AGP boards still?

The point is sometimes you just have to suck it up and get with the times.

Agreed.

Also, your system is fast enough now for another year at least.

Also, a 6800GT will have no problems driving the 1680x1050 res of the 2005FPW. I have the 2005FPW and 6800GT myself.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
Get over it. Consumers shouldn't have to bear the cost of retro-fitted AGP cards because some are too cheap to upgrade their motherboard every few years.

So pass the extra $10 or so on to the person who still wants AGP. Then it won't affect the price of PCI-E cards and manufacturers can sell even more cards.

Do you see any high end VESA cards on the shelf? No.

Do you see any high end PCI cards on the shelf? No.

i miss my vesa local bus

reall tho, people need to stop complaining. get the best agp you can for now until you do a whole system upgrade. im still sticking with my 9800pro until i can upgrade everything.

 

[aldamon]

I might buy a DFI nF4X Infinity if it has the voltage options I need for UTT. It has Socket 754 and PCI-E. My Clawhammer @ 2.4 GHz is plenty fast for a 7800 GT or GTX and a Newark 4000+ (mobile 2.6 GHz / 1MB cache stock) is coming out for Socket 754 soon. That's a decent CPU upgrade path when the next-gen GPUs need more CPU power.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache
The big moan is because I'm about to buy a dell 2005 fpw and I bet my 6800 GT will stuggle at the fpw's native res. playing with plenty of AA on the games I play.

Just saw a new SLI skt754 mobo on the forums yesterday(see HERE ). While not as good (nor cheap) as just picking up a newer gfx card, could be a reasonable solution.

I'm still holding out hope for another go-round of new agp cards too. I can't swing a new CPU + mobo + (near) top-of-the line gfx card any time soon.

Fern

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache
The big moan is because I'm about to buy a dell 2005 fpw and I bet my 6800 GT will stuggle at the fpw's native res. playing with plenty of AA on the games I play.

I've never understood the need to use high AA at high resolutions. Anyway like someone else said, just wait 'till either the 7800 or r520 come out in AGP (you know they will eventually).

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: lavaheadache
The big moan is because I'm about to buy a dell 2005 fpw and I bet my 6800 GT will stuggle at the fpw's native res. playing with plenty of AA on the games I play.

I've never understood the need to use high AA at high resolutions. Anyway like someone else said, just wait 'till either the 7800 or r520 come out in AGP (you know they will eventually).

Me neither. AA introduces more artifacts around lines, while higher resolution is close to perfect.

 

[ronnn]

Well I just got away with a cheap vid card upgrade and can still have fun with my over 2 year old system. If it gives me 6 months before games start to struggle at settings I can live with - is a bargain. Personally I think the need for constant upgrades has lessened. Used to be a computer over 2 years old would not even play the new games and struggled at everything else. :beer: The silly part is my kids still report ours as one of the best gaming machines in the neighbourhood.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
Get over it. Consumers shouldn't have to bear the cost of retro-fitted AGP cards because some are too cheap to upgrade their motherboard every few years.

So pass the extra $10 or so on to the person who still wants AGP. Then it won't affect the price of PCI-E cards and manufacturers can sell even more cards.

Do you see any high end VESA cards on the shelf? No.

Do you see any high end PCI cards on the shelf? No.

This is because the industry has moved on and left these types of motherboards in the past. Lets say Lavaheadache get's his wish and there are ATI/nVidia cards made for AGP.

What about next gen? Should they keep making AGP cards then? Some guys will surely have good AGP boards still?

The point is sometimes you just have to suck it up and get with the times.

sometimes you don't and sometimes you do . . . i'm glad i have another choice if this gen doesn't offer AGP high-end cards . . .

i'm betting both nVidia and ATI will offer their highest end card in AGP this year also . . . why? because after they have finished milking you guys for SLI, they will go after the holdouts' money - like me - who will desert PC gaming in a heartbeat for a nextgen console . . .

but the NEXT gen GPU makers will probably not offer their highest end cards in AGP . . .

 

[Powermoloch]

I'll be expecting my setup to last another 2-3 years at the least, being very optimistic ~!!!

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Get over it. Consumers shouldn't have to bear the cost of retro-fitted AGP cards because some are too cheap to upgrade their motherboard every few years.

im so lucky i won a pcie card.. but we all dont have 600 bucks to spend on upgrades every few years

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
Get over it. Consumers shouldn't have to bear the cost of retro-fitted AGP cards because some are too cheap to upgrade their motherboard every few years.

So pass the extra $10 or so on to the person who still wants AGP. Then it won't affect the price of PCI-E cards and manufacturers can sell even more cards.

Do you see any high end VESA cards on the shelf? No.

Do you see any high end PCI cards on the shelf? No.

This is because the industry has moved on and left these types of motherboards in the past. Lets say Lavaheadache get's his wish and there are ATI/nVidia cards made for AGP.

What about next gen? Should they keep making AGP cards then? Some guys will surely have good AGP boards still?

The point is sometimes you just have to suck it up and get with the times.

I dissagree Rollo. There has never been a card made that reached the limits of the AGP buss. Why not continue using it untill it no longer works? I like new hardware as much as the next guy, and I can afford whatever I want, but I won't buy a new system untill the one I have won't do the job anymore. I'll prolly upgrade my video in a few months if there is something worth upgrading to, but I doubt I'll replace my cpu and motherboard for another year at least.
Perhaps I'm just spoiled from (remove your hat and place your right hand on your heart) socket A. That was good hardware and good value, it had a very long run, and even today it's pleanty good enough for most people. (Not gamers of course).
I hope they do make a few more high end AGP cards, I'll buy one for sure.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: Parkre
did you see the ULi board anand reviewed?

support both 939 and socket M2

support both PCIe and AGP

It looks like that is the board I will get.


oh, and my a7n8x-e has also serve a ti4600 and now a x800xt. It's been a great board!!

I am getting this board too when you send me that 20 dollars you owe me.