Well, Last year I had a Barton mobile xp 2800 that oced to 2600(sold on forums) that I was looking to upgrade for the "new" tech. I bought a skt 754 3000 dtr(Oc'ed to 2.5ghz) On a Nforce 3 MOBO. Now, this year I'm forced into buying another new mobo and processor to support the next "new tech(f#cking Pci-e!) . I Guaruntee to most of the people out there, that my system will blow the ide cables right of their hard drives, and I'm the one out a whole system. I swear I get really heated everytime I read a post saying AGP is dead, and what is the big deal of having to buy a new Mobo when the video card cost 500 bucks. Well, It's not just the mobo, I have to buy a a G## D### processor too, and Re-install the G## D### OS as well to run right. I think a FORCED switch to PCI-E is premature and highway robbery too. I want condemn AMD for ever releasing SKT 754!!! I will give my BFG 6800 GT (AGP) to the first person who can give me irrefutable(SP?) proof that a PCI-E only form of high end graphics port is the only means of producing this next gen of high end graphics. I bet my bottom $$ that Agp could survive atleast 2 more generations of releases in terms of limitations(minus sli and cross fire). To tell you the truth I don't even know anybody that owns a dual card system other than Anandtech relations. Bottom line, I will be upgrading to PCI-E, but against my will, and with reluctancy to boot. I fully expect flames, but hope people realize my situation. Happy Upgrading!!
No more High end Agp cards
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Yeah, I'm faced with the same dilemma. I've been looking forward to the R520's but since I hear that they won't make any AGP parts I guess I'll have to get either a x850xt-pe or a 6800Ultra. I'm currently leaning towards the Ultra since this will be the last upgrade before I upgrade MB's and the NV supports PS3.0.
phatrabt
phatrabt
Similar situation here. Does anyone know when that M2 socket is supposed to come out and if it will actually have gains over the 939? I might just wait it out and get a motherboard with both that and PCIE, as I don't want to again buy a motherboard only to find that everything is being migrated to some new tech.
Who's forcing you to buy the new stuff? If your system already blows most others away, why do you need to upgrade right now? Do you need something even faster for work, or gaming? Or just feel the need to be ahead of the curve? (I'd fall into this category
)Just curious.
Originally posted by: Mojoed
Who's forcing you to buy the new stuff? If your system already blows most others away, why do you need to upgrade right now? Do you need something even faster for work, or gaming? Or just feel the need to be ahead of the curve? (I'd fall into this category
Just curious.
I say that I am forced because I like to get new graphics cards every year, not motherboards. My Asus A7n8x-e made love to 4 cards: Ti 4200, 9800 pro, X800 Pro, and a 6800GT. This mobo (epox 8kda3j) has had just a BFG 6800 GT
Get over it. Consumers shouldn't have to bear the cost of retro-fitted AGP cards because some are too cheap to upgrade their motherboard every few years.
Keysplayr
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I thought about upgrading to a PCI-e platform, but was very happy with my P4 AGP rig. So, I searched for another solution. I wanted the 7800GTX but didn't want to have to upgrade my entire rig to get it. I did some searching and found my particular solution.
HERE
This board allows me to keep my existing 478 CPU and my 1GB of DDR with PCI-e graphics. Its a nice interim board until all of this Smithfield/Presler nonsense blows over and Intel gets their butts in gear with Conroe/Merom. That's when I will upgrade. Sometime in 2006.
HERE
This board allows me to keep my existing 478 CPU and my 1GB of DDR with PCI-e graphics. Its a nice interim board until all of this Smithfield/Presler nonsense blows over and Intel gets their butts in gear with Conroe/Merom. That's when I will upgrade. Sometime in 2006.
did you see the ULi board anand reviewed?
support both 939 and socket M2
support both PCIe and AGP
It looks like that is the board I will get.
oh, and my a7n8x-e has also serve a ti4600 and now a x800xt. It's been a great board!!
support both 939 and socket M2
support both PCIe and AGP
It looks like that is the board I will get.
oh, and my a7n8x-e has also serve a ti4600 and now a x800xt. It's been a great board!!
Simple Question Lavaheadache...
Your the type of person who buys a graphics card every year...
How did you miss that A. socket 939 would be AMDs main socket for the "future" and that B. PCIexpress was the graphics bus of the "Future"
Both of these were at least mentioned as possibilites as early as Spring 2004....
Your the type of person who buys a graphics card every year...
How did you miss that A. socket 939 would be AMDs main socket for the "future" and that B. PCIexpress was the graphics bus of the "Future"
Both of these were at least mentioned as possibilites as early as Spring 2004....
dude.....you can just buy one of the numerous NF4 4X motherboards....these are still 754 boards, just with PCI-E, and theyre not exactly expensive either. apparently gigabyte make the best
or if not them wacky Uli boards are coming out, so u dont have to buy new CPU n stuff to boot
or if not them wacky Uli boards are coming out, so u dont have to buy new CPU n stuff to boot
apoppin
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i am in a similar situation . . . however, i DO think the r520 will be AGP also and eventually the 7800 series will also be AGP.
IF not, it's a PS3 or xbox360 for my main gaming and screw PC gaming . . . my rig can limp along at 3+Ghz with an agp 6800u until OTHER apps require a complete upgrade - the next gen consoles will blow-away PC gaming for at least 2 years anyway.
IF not, it's a PS3 or xbox360 for my main gaming and screw PC gaming . . . my rig can limp along at 3+Ghz with an agp 6800u until OTHER apps require a complete upgrade - the next gen consoles will blow-away PC gaming for at least 2 years anyway.
sell your cpu and motherboard
it'll cover most of the 939 3000+ and the epox board
or since your want something better than a 6800gt, pick up an evga 7800gt/gtx and get the free motherboard, that way you only have to pick up a 939 3000+ which is around 125 oem
it'll cover most of the 939 3000+ and the epox board
or since your want something better than a 6800gt, pick up an evga 7800gt/gtx and get the free motherboard, that way you only have to pick up a 939 3000+ which is around 125 oem
Yeah, I have been debating the evga deal for a little while. I was also thinking about selling my internals(lol) on the forums. Do you think there will be much demand for a DTR A64 3000 and an epox 8kda3-j?
You could just get a Socket 754 NForce 4 Motherboard like suggested - they're cheaper than 939 boards and it will save having to change the processor too?
Also, why the rush - a 6800GT should be good enough for anything right now - I'm currently using a 6600GT and everything runs smoothly at 1280x1024, so I can't understand what the big 'moan' is all about.
Also, why the rush - a 6800GT should be good enough for anything right now - I'm currently using a 6600GT and everything runs smoothly at 1280x1024, so I can't understand what the big 'moan' is all about.
The big moan is because I'm about to buy a dell 2005 fpw and I bet my 6800 GT will stuggle at the fpw's native res. playing with plenty of AA on the games I play.
Similar dilemma here with the A64 3000+ (754) & FX5900XT (AGP).
You're getting rid of your 6800GT already and complaing about money?? I don't upgrade as frequently as you, not cost effective IMO. I'll probably buy a 7800GT and a $75 pci-e 754 mobo and reuse my cpu, memory, hard drive, etc...
You're getting rid of your 6800GT already and complaing about money?? I don't upgrade as frequently as you, not cost effective IMO. I'll probably buy a 7800GT and a $75 pci-e 754 mobo and reuse my cpu, memory, hard drive, etc...
nitromullet
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Socket 754 came out in Sept. 2003. The 6800GT, which you've indicated is the only card that you had in your current mobo, came out in June 2004. That would indicate to me that you didn't actually buy the "new tech" as you claim, but year old tech. In 2004, I upgraded my CPU in a year old P4 mobo, and stuck with AGP for another year... ...because I read ...and keep up with what is going on. So, this year I could upgrade to a new motherboard, cpu, PSU, and video card, and not feel too bad about it because I was replacing a 2 year old mobo and the parts had decent resale value. Buying a socket 754 CPU/motherboard last year was a bad idea, and there were a number of threads/debates on the subject... I know this sucks for you, but it helps to pay attention to what's going on.
So pass the extra $10 or so on to the person who still wants AGP. Then it won't affect the price of PCI-E cards and manufacturers can sell even more cards.
Well, you could try overclocking it - it may get close to Ultra performance levels if you're lucky... also, I'd wait and see what it's like with the new monitor at higher res first - if it means slightly lowering the AA a little bit then it might be better for the shorter term....
Failing that, ATi are still planning to release their next gen on AGP aren't they?? And maybe NVidia may go back on what they said and release 7800 for AGP after all.
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