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brigden

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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Unabomber?
Timothy McVeigh?

Or are they not a part of "reality"?

Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that after the World Trade Center bombings, you kick all Middle Eastern Muslims out of the US and close the boarders. How many lives would you have saved?

lets say we ban flipping up collars. how many metros would we have pissed off?

you cannot, shall not, will not be able to kick out a citizen of this country out of here based on his race and color of skin alone.

unless you are saying only white people are the true citizens of this country :roll:

Do you think racial profiling is an effective counter-terrorism tool?
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
you say it's not feasible but something has to be done.
Something, maybe, but not this. This type of security, even at airports, will not be effective in preventing bombings. It's only there to give you a false sense of security, unless metal detectors can somehow detect plastic explosives?
 

Aharami

Lifer
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Originally posted by: brigden

Do you think racial profiling is an effective counter-terrorism tool?

racial profiling to look into their lives further without getting in anyone way - yes.
racial profiling to take action on baseless stereotypes - no
 

nakedfrog

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Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.
That's adult reasoning at its finest right there! /sarcasm
 

CycloWizard

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.
:thumbsup:
 

So

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?
 

mrSHEiK124

Lifer
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?
Smart, don't forget over/under a certain age
 

So

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sheik124
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?
Smart, don't forget over/under a certain age

Okay...let's get this on to lawmakers...just don't let hillary hear about it ;)
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: sheik124
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?
Smart, don't forget over/under a certain age

Okay...let's get this on to lawmakers...just don't let hillary hear about it ;)

Just make sure to call it something like "The nakedfrog protocol"
 

mrSHEiK124

Lifer
Mar 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: sheik124
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?
Smart, don't forget over/under a certain age

Okay...let's get this on to lawmakers...just don't let hillary hear about it ;)
:laugh:
I can see it now, London Underground System, Rated AO for Adults Only
Actually, first it'll come it with some form of censorship and be rated M, then someone will make a Hot Cappuccino mod for life.
 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?


Yea, but then all the suicide bombers would be fat people over the age of 40.
 

So

Lifer
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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?


Yea, but then all the suicide bombers would be fat people over the age of 40.

And? Sounds like the terrorsts would be doing us a service then.
 

trmiv

Lifer
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?


Yea, but then all the suicide bombers would be fat people over the age of 40.

And? Sounds like the terrorsts would be doing us a service then.


Not if the smelly fat chick on the seat next to you suddenly blew up, and I'm not talking do to excess food intake.
 

So

Lifer
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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Overlooking the simple, obvious solution here. Let's just make everyone carry transparent bags like they do at schools, and implement a mandatory nudity policy.

Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Might I suggest making the rules not apply to men and women over a certain weight/height ratio?


Yea, but then all the suicide bombers would be fat people over the age of 40.

And? Sounds like the terrorsts would be doing us a service then.


Not if the smelly fat chick on the seat next to you suddenly blew up, and I'm not talking do to excess food intake.

See, but then, we could talk the terrorists down with a roast beef sandwich. Plus, they'd be earier to get away from, being slow moving and all.
 

kinev

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Originally posted by: Patt

None. Why not remove all the white people after Timothy McVeigh, Jeffry Dahlmer, Ted Bundy etc. too. I can't believe the ignorance some people in this thread are displaying. I agree with tightened security measures, but they must be for everyone, not just people that 'look a certain way'. :|

Religion has nothing to do with this. Cowardly terrorists thinking their fanaticism will change the world has everything to do with it.

Not true. Yes, it's pc to say that Islam does not teach terrorism and that these crimes are being perpetrated by an extreme minority, but is that the case? Granted, i have never read the Q'uran in it's original form, but let's look at a translation.

from At-Tauba:
"9:5 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

Wow! Not such a peaceful religion, huh? Basically, that says convert or die. This is not from me, either. This is from Islam's holy book. The one that everybody (extremists and non-extremists) is taught from. Let's see what else we can find in a "peaceful" religion's holy book, shall we?

from Al-Anfal:
"8:65 O Messenger. rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding."

from At-Tauba:
"9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Again, convert to Islam or we'll attack you. Is this coming from Osama bin Laden's manifesto? Nope. The good ol' "peaceful" Q'uran. Just something to think about when you hear that Islam does not teach violence and that it is just extremists doing these attacks. When a religion's rule book advocates "convert or die by my hand", you have to take a closer look at who exactly should be considered an extremist.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: IGBT
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Prohibiting or searching bags might not prevent someone from strapping explosives to their body, but if police officers or security guards are checking what people are carrying, they're much more likely to notice someone wearing a bomb vest or belt.

It?s awful that a small group of radical scumbags could force these kinds of costly changes, but at this point it seems irresponsible not to react with measures that would realistically prevent, or greatly reduce, the risk of future attacks. Of course, to be protected as strongly as possible, these precautions may have to be extended to restaurants, movie theatres, shopping malls, and anywhere else crowds gather. It's already happening in Israel. Soon, it could be the norm worldwide.
they need a system similiar to what is in place at airports. go through a metal detector, put your bags on a conveyor belt to get xrayed, and then you can go on the bus.
pita, but needed.

Werd! Some genius needs to develop the ultra-portable, ultra-compact, inexpensive x-ray system that detects metal, chemicals, explosives, radioactive material, etc.

You know it can be done!
 

IGBT

Lifer
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..BART does random searches wit bomb sniffing dogs thru the trains and more often then not no bombs are found but the dogs do a crack job of finding drug toting patrons..so I guess bomb sniffing dogs are first trained on druggie detection.
 

trmiv

Lifer
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Originally posted by: IGBT
..BART does random searches wit bomb sniffing dogs thru the trains and more often then not no bombs are found but the dogs do a crack job of finding drug toting patrons..so I guess bomb sniffing dogs are first trained on druggie detection.


Really? I've never seen a bomb sniffing dog on BART, and I ride every day. Rarely do I see BART police either. Is this only on the San Francisco lines? I ride the Richmond train from Fremont to Oakland, and then back every day.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nik

Reality is that Muslim doesn't teach this hatred that terrorists are spreading.

Reality is that the terrorists are extreme fanaticals hiding behind the guise of religion when they have nothing to do with it.

I don't see muslims doing much to stop the hate that their countrymen are spreading. Maybe if Arab nations were stricter about extremists living in their country, we wouldn't have these problems. But they seem willing to turn a blind eye to it.

For example, where's Bin Laden? I bet a lot of people over there know, and are protecting him.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Patt

Religion has nothing to do with this. Cowardly terrorists thinking their fanaticism will change the world has everything to do with it.

Religion has nothing to do with this? I guess that explains all the Buddhist and Hindus hijacking planes.

Get real, man. You are blinded by political correctness. The VAST MAJORITY of plane hijackings have been by muslim extremists, who get motivation from their religion. Religion has much to do with this, take off your blinders.