No more Adult Services in craigslist

[theflyingpig]

lol. Wrong. Most customers of prostitutes are irreligious outright and therefore engage in illegal behavior of all sorts thereby causing the loss of craigslist adult services for all. This is a fact you deny because even you know this.

 

[Kadarin]

lol. Wrong. Most customers of prostitutes are irreligious outright and therefore engage in illegal behavior of all sorts thereby causing the loss of craigslist adult services for all. This is a fact you deny because even you know this.

LOL wut? Most customers are irreligious, and therefore engage in illegal behavior? Because religious = moral = legal? Is this kindergarten-level drivel really your logic on this issue?

Wow.

 

[DrPizza]

Who cares what the ads say? Why do you care? You think prostitution is ever going to go away? If you do you are a fool.

Sorry, I'll make the point a little more clear:
For 15 minutes on NPR, the CEO of Craigslist kept repeating over and over that they screen every single ad in the adult services, and that NONE are for prostitution.

Hence, I wanted to call into the show and start reading some of the ads.

 

[shortylickens]

Seriously, I never had a clean girl from them.
Its better to go out to a bar and buy a chick drinks.

 

[theflyingpig]

Sorry, I'll make the point a little more clear:
For 15 minutes on NPR, the CEO of Craigslist kept repeating over and over that they screen every single ad in the adult services, and that NONE are for prostitution.

Hence, I wanted to call into the show and start reading some of the ads.

Oh. Well then he is the fool. There is no shame in the truth. He should just admit it and move on. Everyone knows this.

 

[dwell]

Seriously, I never had a clean girl from them.
Its better to go out to a bar and buy a chick drinks.

Ew, you actually used hookers?

 

[shortylickens]

Ew, you actually used hookers?

Hookers are exactly the same as regular girls, except less full of shit.
If you think I am incorrect, you dont know anything about American females.

 

[keird]

Hookers are exactly the same as regular girls, except less full of shit.
If you think I am incorrect, you dont know anything about American females.

'cept you don't need a power washer and industrial detergents apparently

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

It's extremely puzzling to me that prostitution is illegal in a self-proclaimed "free country".

 

[dwell]

Hookers are exactly the same as regular girls, except less full of shit.
If you think I am incorrect, you dont know anything about American females.

Except you're better off screwing a broken coke bottle than a hooker as there's less of a chance of losing your tool on the bottle.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Except you're better off screwing a broken coke bottle than a hooker as there's less of a chance of losing your tool on the bottle.

I suspect the risks are not nearly as great as you think. However when prostitution is legalized it can be regulated and monitored by government health and safety agencies. Banging hookers is dangerous in USA because it's illegal, not the other way around.

 

[shortylickens]

Except you're better off screwing a broken coke bottle than a hooker as there's less of a chance of losing your tool on the bottle.

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[zinfamous]

Agrees with theflyingpig.

As long as there are men interested in sex, prostitution never ends. It's inevitable. There are far too many sites out there for online prositution. This is absolute waste of resource and effort.

Doctors, lawyers, bankers and politicians (especially the politicians) have been enjoying the service of escorts for as long as I can remember.

I agree with all this. I think the problem with CL, though, is the free service bit. It's far too easy, and what seems to work for most dating services and I'm sure adult memebrship services, is that the paid format, however small, is a good starting filter for keeping the creeps away.

there will always be creeps and murderers, I'm sure, but there is at least some reduction when you start going after the wallet.

 

[zinfamous]

Really? If you are going to assume that, then Im going to assume it was the atheists who were screwing with the system so much and paying people for sex when they knew it was against the law to do so. So the atheists are most responsible for our freedoms being taken away because of their lack of self control and inability to follow the damn laws!

atheists, eh?

This guy loves his male prostitutes almost as much as he loves his meth:

he's got a lot of friends, too.

 

[HumblePie]

Stupid religious based laws. This is one reason why I hate religion.

What the fuck does it matter what two consenting adults do in privacy with each other?

How is prostitution really any different than what most people call dating in the first place? Seriously, what does it matter whether the money ends up in the form of dinner, flowers, and a movie; or the person just hands over straight cash?

And how is posting ads even illegal? Hello, First Amendment rights anyone? Even if prostitution is illegal how is posting an ad for it illegal?

Not that I use CL for much of anything, but even I think this is complete bullshit.

 

[zinfamous]

lol. Wrong. Most customers of prostitutes are irreligious outright and therefore engage in illegal behavior of all sorts thereby causing the loss of craigslist adult services for all. This is a fact you deny because even you know this.

this is the dumbest, un-supported assumption I've ever read.

here's one article with some figures
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/451423/the_oldest_profession_shocking_facts.html?cat=17

here's an interesting stat. vague, yes, but let's start assuming (we know you like assuming)

70% of adult men have engaged in prostitution at least once

what was that? 70%? D:

70%??

I know you theists like to consider yourself some sort of "moral majority" (yes, us rational people know that there is no such majority), but anyway, let's play along.

How should we break down that huge 70%, if you are to likewise believe that the upright theists represent a MAJORITY of this country, let's not discount the "mild theists," too.

someone posted the atheist/agnostic numbers here the other day at around 25%. OK not sure how to break that down by males, so let's just go with 13% of those are males. If all of them are lawless heathens that engage in debauchery, then you still have some 50% of the numbers that must be represented by some sort of believer, right? What if a very high percentage of non-believers do not engage in acts of prostitution? then where does that leave you?

 

[shortylickens]

70 percent?
I seriously doubt that. Unless by "engaged" they mean "talked to a hooker".
That I could believe.

 

[waggy]

personally i think that prostitution should be legal. whats the diffrence on going to a bar and getting a women drunk then takeing her home and just giving her $50?

 

[alphatarget1]

Sorry, I'll make the point a little more clear:
For 15 minutes on NPR, the CEO of Craigslist kept repeating over and over that they screen every single ad in the adult services, and that NONE are for prostitution.

Hence, I wanted to call into the show and start reading some of the ads.

I think it depends on what "is" is....

 

[zinfamous]

'cept you don't need a power washer and industrial detergents apparently

not every hooker is the skanky crack whore that you see on Cops.

You'd be surprised the types of hookers that are around you, probably working in regular, professional careers, maybe the little hottie sitting next to you in Chemistry class...they are everywhere.

You just don't know b/c, well...you just don't know.

 

[zinfamous]

Banging hookers is dangerous in USA because it's illegal, not the other way around.

This 100%

same with any "vice"

 

[zinfamous]

70 percent?
I seriously doubt that. Unless by "engaged" they mean "talked to a hooker".
That I could believe.

Yeah, it's crazy. I'm not sure I believe it, either....but it makes more sense than "only atheists commit crimes."

seriously. wtf.

 

[FelixDeCat]

this is the dumbest, un-supported assumption I've ever read.

here's one article with some figures
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/451423/the_oldest_profession_shocking_facts.html?cat=17

here's an interesting stat. vague, yes, but let's start assuming (we know you like assuming)

what was that? 70%? D:

70%??

I know you theists like to consider yourself some sort of "moral majority" (yes, us rational people know that there is no such majority), but anyway, let's play along.

How should we break down that huge 70%, if you are to likewise believe that the upright theists represent a MAJORITY of this country, let's not discount the "mild theists," too.

someone posted the atheist/agnostic numbers here the other day at around 25%. OK not sure how to break that down by males, so let's just go with 13% of those are males. If all of them are lawless heathens that engage in debauchery, then you still have some 50% of the numbers that must be represented by some sort of believer, right? What if a very high percentage of non-believers do not engage in acts of prostitution? then where does that leave you?

Yes I know not all theists are good, in fact some of them are gay drug using preachers who hire male prostitutes for crying out loud. The point I was trying to make to the flying bacon was that he was assuming that it was BECAUSE of religion that pressure was brought to bear against an otherwise useful Craigslist service.

I say it was because of law enforcement who was able to prove that it was being misused all too frequently based on the number of arrests they were able to make. And since he wanted to blame religion as the sole reason for the crackdown, I played along and blamed atheists as the sole reason.

I think that 70% number is unlikely. Who wants to risk getting a sexual disease or getting arrested that bad? I have never and will never hire a prostitute. I dont find it appealing. But if you want to pay someone to go on a date with you or attend a function and they enjoy your company, whats wrong with that? I hope CL reinstates the forum and fights it out in court.

And if the cops want to keep placing dummy ads to catch johns or reply to other ads to arrest prostitutes, more power to them. We have to discourage the atheists from ruining it again.

 

[Ruptga]

The listings came under new scrutiny after the jailhouse suicide last month of a former medical student who was awaiting trial in the killing of a masseuse he met through Craigslist

Authorities point to the case of 24-year-old Philip Markoff as a prime example of the dangers posed by Craigslist services. The former medical student was accused of killing a masseuse he met through the hugely popular classified advertising site, which was founded by Craig Newmark. Markoff committed suicide in the Boston jail where he was awaiting trial.

 

[zinfamous]

Stupid religious based laws. This is one reason why I hate religion.

What the fuck does it matter what two consenting adults do in privacy with each other?

How is prostitution really any different than what most people call dating in the first place? Seriously, what does it matter whether the money ends up in the form of dinner, flowers, and a movie; or the person just hands over straight cash?

And how is posting ads even illegal? Hello, First Amendment rights anyone? Even if prostitution is illegal how is posting an ad for it illegal?

Not that I use CL for much of anything, but even I think this is complete bullshit.

I've always had a bit of problem with this argument.

If we're only talking about sex...whatever. If you're ONLY GOAL in dating is simply to fuck some chick, treat her like shit, perhaps, and move on, then there really is no difference.

That's not the point of dating, however. Buying dinner, drinks, going out, etc...there is much more value in those activities for BOTH PARTIES than can be simply translated into a single value: sex.

I don't see the two dinner vs cash as an easily comparable argument. If the girl is a prostitute, well yeah. But she'd prolly prefer the cash anyway to pay the bills.

Not every girl you pick up at the bar is going to go along with the "hey, I can buy you drinks here, or we can just go back to my place, fuck, and I'll give you some cash." It only works in a prostitution situation, it's not a good analogy to what people do when they are actually dating. the value structure is completely off.

Hell, I think even a lady out for a simple one night stand would tend to be quite put-off by such a proposal. Whatever people's opinions on the subject, there is still strong social stigma attached to the practice, and it would be silly to assume that the ave person actually holds debates on prostitution and examines the issues. hence, the default reaction from most people is going to be "ewww," or a quick kick in the balls.