NO, IT WOULD NOT TAKE OFF. THERE IS NO LIFT.

[Trevelyan]

It was my understanding that the trick is the conveyor belt's movement has no effect on whether the plane moves forward, and therefore goes through the air (creating lift) and takes off.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
It was my understanding that the trick is the conveyor belt's movement has no effect on whether the plane moves forward, and therefore goes through the air (creating lift) and takes off.

if the conveyor can put enough force through the wheels to cancel out the force from the turbine/engine then it's not going to take off.

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: broon
What if there was a 200 mph head wind while the airplane was on the treadmill?

Then sure, it'd take off because the wind creates lift when it blows over the wings.

HA!. So it would take off. You need to change your topic title.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: leftyman
:music: the wheels on the plane go round and round..

round and round..

:music:
I'm ridin' spinnaz
I'm ridin' spinnaz
They don't stop

I'm ridin' spinnaz
I'm ridin' spinnaz
They don't stop

I'm ridin' spinnaz
I'm ridin' spinnaz
They don't stop

I'm ridin' spinnaz
I'm ridin' spinnaz
They rollin'
:music:

- M4H

 

[chrisms]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
It was my understanding that the trick is the conveyor belt's movement has no effect on whether the plane moves forward, and therefore goes through the air (creating lift) and takes off.

I thought the whole point of this was that you could have a plane take off from a stationary position using a conveyor belt? Like a conveyor belt just a bit longer than the plane.

So this is just about turning a runway into a conveyor belt and the plane still takes off? Big deal. Of course the wheels don't power the plane.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

lol, way to make yourself look like an idiot.

anyways, I'm going to find a treadmill today; already have a rubber-band powered toy plane ready.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
It was my understanding that the trick is the conveyor belt's movement has no effect on whether the plane moves forward, and therefore goes through the air (creating lift) and takes off.

I thought the whole point of this was that you could have a plane take off from a stationary position using a conveyor belt? Like a conveyor belt just a bit longer than the plane.

So this is just about turning a runway into a conveyor belt and the plane still takes off? Big deal. Of course the wheels don't power the plane.

Somebody finally gets it!!!

 

[imported_bum]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
It was my understanding that the trick is the conveyor belt's movement has no effect on whether the plane moves forward, and therefore goes through the air (creating lift) and takes off.

if the conveyor can put enough force through the wheels to cancel out the force from the turbine/engine then it's not going to take off.

How do the freely spinning wheels on the plane cancel out the force of its engines?

 

[MasonLuke]

anyone who thinks the plane will take off has below average inteligence. truth.

 

[Cristatus]

Originally posted by: Tizyler
It would take off. There is lift.

Just because the belt is going equal speed in the opposite direction doesn't mean the plane wont move forward.

Jets push the plane, and even if the conveyor belt is going 189473892 MPH, it will still move forward at normal rate of speed.

Put it simply: when you run on a treadmill, do you feel wind on your face? If you do, then the plane takes off, if you don't, then it doesn't.

 

[Amused]

Again, folks, the wheels need to merely be able to freely roll at twice the speed of a normal takeoff. 140 MPH for a prop plane, and about 280 MPH for a jet.

They can EASILY do this. Therefore the plane will have no problem gaining forward momentum realtive to the AIR, and thus enough lift to take off.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Queasy
jeeus...do we really need another thread on this?

[Samuel L. Jackson]

Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfvcking threads about this motherfvcking plane!

[/Samuel L. Jackson]

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: Amused
Again, folks, the wheels need to merely be able to freely roll at twice the speed of a normal takeoff. 140 MPH for a prop plane, and about 280 MPH for a jet.

They can EASILY do this. Therefore the plane will have no problem gaining forward momentum realtive to the AIR, and thus enough lift to take off.

exactly. jet engines don't give a sh!t about what the hell the ground is doing. it's all about airspeed.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: bum

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
It was my understanding that the trick is the conveyor belt's movement has no effect on whether the plane moves forward, and therefore goes through the air (creating lift) and takes off.

if the conveyor can put enough force through the wheels to cancel out the force from the turbine/engine then it's not going to take off.

How do the freely spinning wheels on the plane cancel out the force of its engines?

i said 'if' not 'it will'

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: logic1485

Originally posted by: Tizyler
It would take off. There is lift.

Just because the belt is going equal speed in the opposite direction doesn't mean the plane wont move forward.

Jets push the plane, and even if the conveyor belt is going 189473892 MPH, it will still move forward at normal rate of speed.

Put it simply: when you run on a treadmill, do you feel wind on your face? If you do, then the plane takes off, if you don't, then it doesn't.

If you attach a jet to your ass and run on a treadmill, will you go forward? Of course you will, as your knees drag themselves to bloody stumps on the treadmill.

Your mistake is assuming a plane gains its thrust through its wheels, as your body gets its forward thrust through its legs.

 

[j00fek]

😕

 

[ITJunkie]

PHHHPPPTTT....if you flap hard enough you can fly

 

[ryan256]

The ignorance and stubbornness of people on these forums is amazing. The power is applied to the air not the tires. The plane takes off [/thread]

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
It was my understanding that the trick is the conveyor belt's movement has no effect on whether the plane moves forward, and therefore goes through the air (creating lift) and takes off.

if the conveyor can put enough force through the wheels to cancel out the force from the turbine/engine then it's not going to take off.

It doesn't matter how fast the conveyor belt is moving, because it doesn't affect the speed of the plane in any way (well, a little, not much).

The wheels on the plane can be spinning 100MPH with the plane staying where its at.

 

[MasonLuke]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: Amused
Again, folks, the wheels need to merely be able to freely roll at twice the speed of a normal takeoff. 140 MPH for a prop plane, and about 280 MPH for a jet.

They can EASILY do this. Therefore the plane will have no problem gaining forward momentum realtive to the AIR, and thus enough lift to take off.

exactly. jet engines don't give a sh!t about what the hell the ground is doing. it's all about airspeed.

it does because it needs it to fly. how can it get airspeed if it cant get off the ground?

 

[BrokenVisage]

It takes off, let's leave it at that.

 

[50cent1228]

what would take off???

 

[morgash]

HOLY ****** poeple. JESUS H CHRIST. ANYTHING ELSE!!

The wheels on the plane are free spinning and are not powered by the planes engines. All thrust comes from the jets, which suck air in, and then push it out the back to make the plane move forward. If it was on a treadmill the jets would pull air and push it out to make the plane move. The treadmill would go in the opposite direction to attempt to cancel this movement but it couldnt because the damn wheels dont do anything but spin, and the plane would just keep on trucking until it reached the necessary speed for take-off and lifted off the ground. The reason you don't feel wind on your face on a treadmill is because YOUR speed is determined by the amount of force you apply to the ground, whereas the plane's speed is determined by the amount of thrust the engines create by moving air. Yes TECHNICALLY speaking if the treadmill went fast enough the wheels would break but in a physics calculation you have to assume the wheels are indestructible and can spin at infinite speed if the treadmill can go at infinite speed. Jesus Christ did anyone here TAKE physics?

morgash

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: MasonLuke

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: Amused
Again, folks, the wheels need to merely be able to freely roll at twice the speed of a normal takeoff. 140 MPH for a prop plane, and about 280 MPH for a jet.

They can EASILY do this. Therefore the plane will have no problem gaining forward momentum realtive to the AIR, and thus enough lift to take off.

exactly. jet engines don't give a sh!t about what the hell the ground is doing. it's all about airspeed.

it does because it needs it to fly.

Those floatplanes must be works of the devil I tells ya!

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: logic1485

Put it simply: when you run on a treadmill, do you feel wind on your face? If you do, then the plane takes off, if you don't, then it doesn't.

Yes but that's because I also have a fan on the control panel of the treadmill.