No hope for civility

[LegendKiller]

See you in 2012. Taking our country back. Mock at you own demise.

Working tax paying Americans are the eagle. You leftist fucks are the prey. Keep mocking. Please keep mocking.

Says the hypocrite whose wife is a government hack who leeches from innocent taxpayers like a welfare freeloader.

You're proud of that bloated salary given to you by an ever expanding government bureaucracy and a pension that shackles governments to unrealistic benefits.

Might as well call you a socialist for all of the tax dollars you suck out of the system, eh Comrade?

Just who is the "leftist" you RINO.

 

[boomerang]

 

[CADsortaGUY]

you forgot "racist"

 

[spidey07]

It's funny because it's true. And fuck Obama. FBHO.

 

[hal2kilo]

Our political system emphasizes freedome of speech and political debate. If you dont like it move to a communist or socialist country where the government will tell you what you can think, and tell you that you have no say in running the government. Then if you speak out you will be sent to a rehabilitation camp.

Think of republicans as the Hippies of the 2010 decade!

Real hippies were smart enough to realize that nothing can fix our fucked up culture so they dropped out.

It got all fucked up when it went political. They were hippies turned political activists i.e. yippies anyway.

 

[shira]

The biggest problem started around 2004/5 with the vilification of Bush by the left. They opened the genie and insisted that this kind of "discourse" was acceptable and even encouraged (Pelosi anyone?).

And now the shoe is on the other foot, with a president who has never seen such low ratings, a congress with record breaking ratings, going against the will of the people. And liberals wonder why the country is so against them.

It's the progressive way, they simply cannot understand nor accept that their agenda is not what this country wants. This nation is smarter then they think. This country has flat out rejected this president, has no respect of The People and is a complete failure.

Liberals can't understand why this is so, so they lash, deflect and squirm under the moral obligation of Americans to stop them. The world has seen their social experiments fail and WE WILL NOT ALLOW THAT FAILURE HERE IN AMERICA!!!!!

Fuck Obama.

It might be a good idea to take a look at Obama's numbers now and from two months ago. And look at polls of the public's view of Democrats and Republicans. If you're so darned sure that there's this sunami of backlash against progressives, then you might want to explain to us why Obama's numbers are HIGHER now and how it can possibly be that the poll numbers favoring Democrats and Republicans are virtually the same.

Of course, it might have something to do with that glue you're sniffing. Or maybe it's just that you're not very bright.

 

[RbSX]

Jeeze this entire thread demonstrates why this initiative never worked.

Way to go America! Way to go!!!

 

[Hacp]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/mark-demoss-civility-project_n_808219.html

I'm not sure what this adds to the current discussion, if anything, but I thought it was relevant enough to put out there. Hopefully something like this will find new legs given the events since its closing. I think this country is at a point where if our political climate doesn't get substantially better, on the level specifically of media, pundits, and politicians, and if such an event as this past weekend can't be used as the catalyst for doing just that, then any hope of actual constructive political discourse over the FUD, incitement, and flat out hate-mongering that passes for that now is completely doomed, and so will go the country as a whole.

Civility? When people are STEALING your income to give to others, there is no civility. There is no compromise. If I walked up to you and took your wallet, will you approach me civilly? NO. You would fight for your wallet back, tooth and nail.

 

[shadow9d9]

Didn't say that. However, if an idea comes from the left - do you really think it doesn't have a leftist slant to it? really?
It has everything to do with what is best for the country.

Considering there is no "left" in this country. Only moderates and everything to the right. There is a reason our "liberals" are considered conservative in every other first world country.

 

[shadow9d9]

Civility? When people are STEALING your income to give to others, there is no civility. There is no compromise. If I walked up to you and took your wallet, will you approach me civilly? NO. You would fight for your wallet back, tooth and nail.

If you don't like taxes, best thing is to avoid all first world countries. This country was founded on the idea of taxes. Take a hike, please.

 

[Hacp]

If you don't like taxes, best thing is to avoid all first world countries. This country was founded on the idea of taxes. Take a hike, please.

The country had no income tax until 1913. For the majority of the nations history, we had no income tax! The country was founded on freedom and liberty, not communism.

 

[shadow9d9]

See you in 2012. Taking our country back. Mock at you own demise.

Working tax paying Americans are the eagle. You leftist fucks are the prey. Keep mocking. Please keep mocking.

So, the big storm of 2010 was "taking back" republican positions from hick state democrats, which are equal to the republicans except they aren't afraid of the ghey...

You want to take it back... back to tax cuts for the rich, bailouts for the rich, loss of rights(patriot acts), more endless occupations and nation building in the most insane part of the world, torture, less regulation(derp derp.. oil spills anyone), repealing of any regulation on financial companies(repealing Glass-Steagall Act, which was put in place to prevent a meltdown like the one that just took place, done so by republicans), oppose removing pre-existing conditions and making sure to keep insurance companies in control of your life and death, etc...

Derp derp derp. I SO wish the south seceded so you could truly live in the shithold you deserve. There is a reason red states take more in federal dollars than the blue states while crying about being taxed TOO much.

 

[shadow9d9]

The country had no income tax until 1913. For the majority of the nations history, we had no income tax! The country was founded on freedom and liberty, not communism.

The US constitution specifies that Congress could impose a direct tax. Don't give me your parroted talking points about Communism. You have no clue what it is.

If the US Constitution pisses you off so much, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

I mean seriously, do you have a brain? Talking platitudes about liberty and freedom and communism when it states right there in the freaking constitution that government is allowed to tax. It is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE that you deem yourself patriotic and DARE talk about liberty and freedom and how you shouldn't pay taxes. GO TO AN ANARCHIST COUNTRY IF YOU DON'T WANT TAXES!

 

[Hacp]

The US constitution specifies that Congress could impose a direct tax. Don't give me your parroted talking points about Communism. You have no clue what it is.

If the US Constitution pisses you off so much, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

I mean seriously, do you have a brain? Talking platitudes about liberty and freedom and communism when it states right there in the freaking constitution that government is allowed to tax. It is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE that you deem yourself patriotic and DARE talk about liberty and freedom and how you shouldn't pay taxes. GO TO AN ANARCHIST COUNTRY IF YOU DON'T WANT TAXES!

If you understood the constitution, you would see that the direct tax isn't an income tax. Taxes restrict liberty. It restricts freedom. Government decides how much of your money it can keep. It could set the tax rate at 100% if it wanted. The ultimate nanny state. Socialism at its finest. We all know how well the Soviet Union worked out.

 

[shadow9d9]

If you understood the constitution, you would see that the direct tax isn't an income tax. Taxes restrict liberty. It restricts freedom. Government decides how much of your money it can keep. It could set the tax rate at 100% if it wanted. The ultimate nanny state. Socialism at its finest. We all know how well the Soviet Union worked out.

Wow...

1. You are clueless on "socialism." Socialism is not a form of government. It has no effect on governing.

2. Income tax is a direct tax according the US. You can disagree, but you also seem to think that having a post office(socialism) will bring about our downfall because a brutal dictatorship controlled its state. Seriously. This is the correlation you tried to make.

I could play at that game. The only true democracy of the world was Greece. We all know how THAT ended up!

Do you think your lunatic uneducated platitudes are somehow in any way related to reality? I guess when you could surround yourself with like minded craziness on the internet, even the most asinine thoughts can be validated.

 

[Hacp]

Wow...

1. You are clueless on "socialism." Socialism is not a form of government. It has no effect on governing.

2. Income tax is a direct tax according the US. You can disagree, but you also seem to think that having a post office(socialism) will bring about our downfall because a brutal dictatorship controlled its state. Seriously. This is the correlation you tried to make.

I could play at that game. The only true democracy of the world was Greece. We all know how THAT ended up!

Do you think your lunatic uneducated platitudes are somehow in any way related to reality? I guess when you could surround yourself with like minded craziness on the internet, even the most asinine thoughts can be validated.

There is a reason congress had to pass an amendment for the income tax.
Because it was unconstitutional. Now that government has its slimy hands on our money, it is out on an agenda to take away as many of our freedoms, liberties, and rights as it can. If you love America, say no to taxes.

 

[shadow9d9]

There is a reason congress had to pass an amendment for the income tax.
Because it was unconstitutional. Now that government has its slimy hands on our money, it is out on an agenda to take away as many of our freedoms, liberties, and rights as it can. If you love America, say no to taxes.

Hehe. Ok, I won't fall for the bait this time. Go back to your bunker.

Edit: Changed my mind. Are you male? You know who ELSE was male? HITLER! You know how THAT worked out!

 

[Jhhnn]

Hehe. Ok, I won't fall for the bait this time. Go back to your bunker.

Edit: Changed my mind. Are you male? You know who ELSE was male? HITLER! You know how THAT worked out!

Never argue with an idiot- they'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

[xj0hnx]

Considering there is no "left" in this country. Only moderates and everything to the right.

LOL, riiiiiight

 

[Jhhnn]

Considering there is no "left" in this country. Only moderates and everything to the right. There is a reason our "liberals" are considered conservative in every other first world country.

LOL, riiiiiight

Shadow's right, of course, except in the minds of Rightie fringe whacks, for whom everybody else is a "Leftist!"

There is no "Left" in American politics. Nobody with any influence is calling for the dictatorship of the proletariat, confiscation of all private property, or collectivization. Sometimes I think it's too bad that nobody is, just so Righties would have to be honest.

 

[Jaskalas]

Jeeze this entire thread demonstrates why this initiative never worked.

Way to go America! Way to go!!!

That's why centralized planning will not work. Be it with means of production, or taxes and spending. We are not a people who want to be ruled under an iron thumb. You do not force those who do not get along into a Union they cannot avoid.

 

[LegendKiller]

Civility? When people are STEALING your income to give to others, there is no civility. There is no compromise. If I walked up to you and took your wallet, will you approach me civilly? NO. You would fight for your wallet back, tooth and nail.

Says the guy who lived with his parents and now steals from his roommates.

 

[Patranus]

The only reason there is a push to "cool" political "rhetoric" is because the Democrats and "progressives" know that they are getting their shit pushed in as illustrated by the last election.

 

[Eos]

And now the shoe is on the other foot, with a president who has never seen such low ratings, a congress with record breaking ratings, going against the will of the people. And liberals wonder why the country is so against them.

Actually, his lowest rating is the highest since Kennedy. Try again.

 

[LegendKiller]

The only reason there is a push to "heat" political "rhetoric" is because the RINOs and "regressives" know that they are getting their shit pushed in as illustrated by the 30 years of Reaganomics economic disaster.

Fixed.