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No highres monitors with high pixel pitch?

imported_goku

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Why is it that the lower end 2007FP has .25 pixel pitch while the 2407 has .27 pixel pitch? Sure 1900X1200 is good resolution, but the pixel pitch sucks, why can't they make a monitor that is high res and high pixel pitch? (under .25)?
 
There is a breaking point because of the size of the monitor. You only have so much space to work with therefore the pixels can only be so big before you have to lower the resolution to fit a pixel of that size in that amount of space.
 
A .27 dot pitch on a 24in LCD really isn't that bad. I don't want everything so dam small I can't see it. My VX2025wm has the same as the 2007fpw which is ~.255 dot pitch.

.27 ain't that bad. If you want something smaller go get a FW900
 
Originally posted by: SonicIce
Look at laptops, they fit like 1920x1080 in a 17"

Exactly. Why can't I have this high of resolution on a desktop 17" monitor?

Originally posted by: wizboy11
A .27 dot pitch on a 24in LCD really isn't that bad. I don't want everything so dam small I can't see it. My VX2025wm has the same as the 2007fpw which is ~.255 dot pitch.

.27 ain't that bad. If you want something smaller go get a FW900

CRTs are too heavy, use lots of electricity and create lots of heat (cause they use so much power). Plus I've never encountered a CRT that had better fidelity than an LCD (an LCD on VGA at that).
 
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: SonicIce
Look at laptops, they fit like 1920x1080 in a 17"

Exactly. Why can't I have this high of resolution on a desktop 17" monitor?

Then get a laptop. And try working with its screen at desktop distance (about twice as far away as you'd normally view the latop screen). And then tweak the settings so you can actually read text and work normally on the desktop.

 
This is a perfectly reasonable request. I can always make fonts bigger, but I'd like my photos to be a bit more detailed. Personally, I'd just get one of those 20" medical LCDs that has a native resolution of 2048x1536 (3MP), if only they didn't cost US$8000 or more. For less than that one could find a used (discontinued) IBM T221 or the Viewsonic equivalent - a 16:10 22" LCD with a native res of something like 3840x2400 (9MP)!
 
lol Are there Dell employees here? you people jumped on him pretty bad. Companies owe it to their customers to innovate and advance technology.
 
Originally posted by: SonicIce
Look at laptops, they fit like 1920x1080 in a 17"

I thought we were arguing over pixel pitch not max resolution??? Yeah you can fit just about any resolution into a 17 inch monitor but the pixels pitch will get smaller and smaller to do this. Its geometry.

Not sure why someone was looking for Dell employees for Innovation but I can tell you that I work for NEC and the reason why ourselves and and other manufacturers dont make these 4,5,6 mp monitors is because there is not enough demand to justify production.
 
I think the point is you can sit a lot farther back with a 24" monitor so that difference in dot pitch isn't going to be noticed at all.
 
Originally posted by: goku
Why is it that the lower end 2007FP has .25 pixel pitch while the 2407 has .27 pixel pitch? Sure 1900X1200 is good resolution, but the pixel pitch sucks, why can't they make a monitor that is high res and high pixel pitch? (under .25)?
They do. It's called a 23" LCD monitor.
 
Originally posted by: Accord99
Originally posted by: goku
Why is it that the lower end 2007FP has .25 pixel pitch while the 2407 has .27 pixel pitch? Sure 1900X1200 is good resolution, but the pixel pitch sucks, why can't they make a monitor that is high res and high pixel pitch? (under .25)?
They do. It's called a 23" LCD monitor.

Why Can't I have a 20" LCD with 1920X1200? They've got 17" screens with 1920X1200 and 15" screens with 1600X1200.
 
Pixel pitch is directly related to the size of the display. If the pixel pitch is smaller, then one of two things HAVE to happen: The RESOLUTION has to increase OR the SIZE has to DECREASE. A prime example is the LCD panel on my Inspiron XPS Gen 1. It is a 1920 x 1200, 0.173mm pixel pitch, 15.4". If you wanted a 0.173mm pixel pitch in a 24" panel, that panel would HAVE to be roughly 3000 x 1875, which is UNSUITABLE for any type of gaming. The Apple/Dell 30" has a pixel pitch of ~ 0.253mm and is 2560 x 1600.

If the manufacturers can get down to 0.13mm and make it affordable, you MIGHT see a 24" dual-resolution LCD that can run at 3840 x 2400 or 1920 x 1200 using pixel doubling. I am pretty sure there are medical-type displays that already exist but are beyond the reach of regular Joes.

Originally posted by: goku
Why Can't I have a 20" LCD with 1920X1200? They've got 17" screens with 1920X1200 and 15" screens with 1600X1200.

A 20" WS LCD would have to have a PP of ~0.23mm, this is doable at a reasonable cost but the desktop ( icons, fonts, etc. ) would probably need a little adjusting to be viewed comfortably. I had to do some SERIOUS tweaking to get my 1920 x 1200 15.4" to be readable. I guess the manufacturers haven't gotten around to making one yet.
 
Anything less than 0.25mm is not readable on desktop (font too small) until M$ fixes forced single dpi in Windows (not gonna happen with Vista, it seems as it uses old 96/120 dpi system)

17" an 20.1" LCDs have highest quality pixel pitch for desktops.
 
Originally posted by: tk109
I think the point is you can sit a lot farther back with a 24" monitor so that difference in dot pitch isn't going to be noticed at all.

Sure I can, but I won't be so that doesn't matter, the screen door effect is going to be a big issue for me..
 
Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Anything less than 0.25mm is not readable on desktop (font too small) until M$ fixes forced single dpi in Windows (not gonna happen with Vista, it seems as it uses old 96/120 dpi system)

17" an 20.1" LCDs have highest quality pixel pitch for desktops.

I disagree, a 1600X1200 res on a 15" screen is obviously readable.
 
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