No Happy Meals for SanFran

[MrX8503]

Hitler, expressed such contempt of the Jews, and used that arguement to exterminate them.

-John

We're talking about fast food and fat people, not exterminating people.

I don't understand the people bitching about "omg my healthcare costs"

If you think McDonalds is evil, don't bullshit us and hide behind toys and say it's the toys that are making people fat or parents stupid. It's not. It's the food. If you want McDonalds to stop serving fatty food then make laws directly aimed at the food. This toy argument is total bullshit. Just say what your actual intentions are and we'll have a grown up argument about that particular issue.

Its easier to target the toy than target the food. If we targeted the food there would be burning torches. The toys are an incentive to kids and by taking that away they'll go for meals with toys. Unknowingly to the child the meals with the toys are lower in calories.

Obesity is a serious epidemic in this country and we're creating a new generation of Fat America through our kids.

 

[zsdersw]

The toys are an incentive to kids and by taking that away they'll go for meals with toys.

Oh yeah, that'll work. Kids know what they like at McDonalds; they'll keep getting it with or without the toy, and their parents... since they're willing to let their kids eat at McDonalds in the first place... won't care if the kid gets the unhealthier stuff.

Obesity is a serious epidemic in this country and we're creating a new generation of Fat America through our kids.

Yes it is a serious problem. Stuff like this isn't going to help, though.

 

[PeshakJang]

Obesity is a serious epidemic in this country and we're creating a new generation of Fat America through our kids.

I would wager that the internet has caused more of an increase in obesity than Happy Meal toys.

Perhaps SF should ban Facebook... since it entices children to use the internet instead of play outside with their friends. You agree, I assume.

 

[ShawnD1]

The point is in the article: Unhealthy foods being TARGETED TOWARDS CHILDREN. These meals go against any rational guideline for what children should be eating, yet in portion size, name, that they come packaged with a toy, and down to the box they come in, they are marketed to kids.

Where were you 60 years ago? Companies would sell toy guns that actually looked like guns; they did not have the colored plastic tips on the barrel. Guess what. Kids didn't go around shooting up schools.

 

[ShawnD1]

Obesity is a serious epidemic in this country and we're creating a new generation of Fat America through our kids.

It's worth noting that happy meals are also sold in Canada, France, Britain, Australia, Germany, Sweden, etc. All of those countries have wildly different obesity rates.

Nah let's forget all of those other factors and just say it's the toys. Parents aren't going to McDonalds because it's convenient; they go because kids put guns to their parents heads (because evil corporations make kids think guns are toys) and demand to get a happy meal with a toy. Oh and kids don't want the happy meal because they like the taste of burgers or french fries or coca cola, but because they like shitty toys that break in 2 seconds. It was the toys this whole time!!! :ninja:

 

[xj0hnx]

Nanny State.txt

I really don't care about your appeal to emotion, and zomg we've got to save us from ourselves bullshit. I don't care if someone wants to stuff their face with cheeseburgers all day, they are free to to do it, just as I am free to not care if they do it. I don't want you, or any other person/government telling me what to feed my kid, or that I can't have a food I want. If you want to regulate something stick to your own life.

lol john you need to relax.

I'm as relaxed as they come foolio.

 

[xj0hnx]

It's worth noting that happy meals are also sold in Canada, France, Britain, Australia, Germany, Sweden, etc. All of those countries have wildly different obesity rates.

Nah let's forget all of those other factors and just say it's the toys.

Exactly. The problem isn't the food, it isn't the toys, it's the retards that don't know how to regulate their eating habits.

 

[daishi5]

The problem is that stupid people assume a nanny state and then get themselves (not [in itself] a problem) and others (a problem) hurt over it.

Why do we need to put signs in federal parks warning that wild animals are.. get this: wild? Because people, spoiled by an economic system that results in companies altering the environment to cater to their every whim, assume that "somebody" went ahead and tamed all of nature to cater to their whim to be amused. It couldn't be dangerous because... well, they wouldn't like that.

This stupidity means that we have to put up goddamn nanny state protections just so they can continue walking about in their fog.

Fat people being fat wouldn't be an issue if we'd let them die. But we don't. We go through heroic efforts and spend other people's money to keep them waddling on their stupid stubby legs. Then they make their kids fat and we have another round of problems that we have to pay for.
I don't hear conservative saying, "Take them out back and shoot them," so where's your goddamn answer?

Take some time to wander through the old healthcare debate threads if you get some time. I seem to recall that most right-wingers were advocating that fat unhealthy people who made bad decisions should be allowed to suffer the consequences of those decisions and that we as a nation should not feel obligated to save them. No one said we should shoot em, but several seemed to believe we should let them die in the street of a heart attack. (I would agree with letting people suffer the consequences of their own decisions and helping those who made better decisions, but were just unlucky, except we have no good method of determining who is who.)

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It's worth noting that happy meals are also sold in Canada, France, Britain, Australia, Germany, Sweden, etc. All of those countries have wildly different obesity rates.

Nah let's forget all of those other factors and just say it's the toys.

Good point....but somehow I think our progressive friends here really don't give a damn about the facts....it's the "principle" of the thing that disturbs them so. It seems that with enough government control of every single minute aspect of our lives...the world can truly be perfect.

 

[xj0hnx]

Good point....but somehow I think our progressive friends here really don't give a damn about the facts....it's the "principle" of the thing that disturbs them so. It seems that with enough government control of every single minute aspect of our lives...the world can truly be perfect.

It's the typical loony leftist desire to control people. It's their same tired debate, whether food, guns, or whatever ...they know better, it's for your own good, resistance is futile.

 

[Amused]

Good point....but somehow I think our progressive friends here really don't give a damn about the facts....it's the "principle" of the thing that disturbs them so. It seems that with enough government control of every single minute aspect of our lives...the world can truly be perfect.

As I pointed out earlier, the left has a simplistic way of seeing things.

Instead of seeing the big picture with obesity, they look for bogeymen and try to control it. They think all of life's ills can be solved by government control. They are authoritarians to the core and have no respect for their fellow man. Quite the contrary, they have fear and contempt for their fellow man and seek to control him as much as possible. They literally see the population as little more than children who need parenting.

 

[werepossum]

Speaking of "whoosh", you obviously missed my entire post - your are focusing on one word and ignoring all the others. Your entire post is, yet again, posting a bunch of gibberish that in no way relates to what I said, followed by a curious string of insults.

I'll repeat...nice and slow for you this time. He was commenting that other people couldn't comment on this issue. No, he didn't say anything about efficacy. Nor did I claim or insinuate he did. Not at all, not in any way. I was responding directly claim to his insinuation that because its not happening in your town, its not your problem, and that conservatives should appreciate that and stop arguing. My retort was that that's ridiculous - if people want to debate the law, they can and will - they don't have to be a resident to do so, and that the residents of San Francisco are notorious for that kind of thing, therefore making it hypocritical of them to try to halt discussion from out of towners.

Got it yet? Or do I need to repeat myself again? That is, if you even last long enough to reply. Based on the trolling nature of your posts, combined with unearned personal insults, I'm sure you'll be banned soon enough.

Wasting your time, dude. When someone is that utterly clueless yet thinks feels he is highly intelligent, there is absolutely no way to even make him see your points, let alone agree they have any merit.

 

[BoberFett]

Was his post about efficacy? No. Not even close. Nothing even resembling it. So there goes your point that the argument is about efficacy.

Please learn to clearly compartmentalize your own point so you know disproof when it slams you in the face.

Jesus, I'm dealing with absolute retards here. I can't be the least bit clever without it going *woosh*, 50,000 feet above their stupid heads.
The overall quality on this board is really sub-par. Usually the average poster will be able to follow me though one jump. I've had the supreme pleasure of working with some brilliant minds, Fundie and not, who can jump 6 or 7 -- making all the connections in between. Ten thousand things can be said in two sentences when operating on that level. But here? Every damned nuance has to be spelled out or they go *zoom* -- off to crazy town.

Is P&N where people end up after they're run out of better boards for being too stupid to live? Are you the bottom of the heap, and beyond redemption?
Just let me know. If y'all just want to masturbatorily wallow in your own stupidity, I'll get out of the way. If you will self-identify as the lowest of the low, such a designation will generate no cognitive dissonance on my part, and I can leave with satisfaction.

Your egotistical rants are funny. I sure hope this is just your online persona, and not what you really think of yourself. You do realize you're not nearly as smart as you think you are, don't you?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

1) McDonald’s Happy Meal
2) Cereal Box Toys
3) Cracker Jacks Toys
4) Baseball Cards with Bubble Gum
5) Willy Wonka Bars
6) Gumball Machines with Prizes

 

[BoberFett]

As I pointed out earlier, the left has a simplistic way of seeing things.

Instead of seeing the big picture with obesity, they look for bogeymen and try to control it. They think all of life's ills can be solved by government control. They are authoritarians to the core and have no respect for their fellow man. Quite the contrary, they have fear and contempt for their fellow man and seek to control him as much as possible. They literally see the population as little more than children who need parenting.

Yep.

 

[ShawnD1]

1) McDonald’s Happy Meal
2) Cereal Box Toys
3) Cracker Jacks Toys
4) Baseball Cards with Bubble Gum
5) Willy Wonka Bars
6) Gumball Machines with Prizes

You forgot bazooka joe

 

[theeedude]

Oh yeah, that'll work. Kids know what they like at McDonalds; they'll keep getting it with or without the toy, and their parents... since they're willing to let their kids eat at McDonalds in the first place... won't care if the kid gets the unhealthier stuff.



Yes it is a serious problem. Stuff like this isn't going to help, though.

Are you saying that between fries and no toy and an apple with the toy, kids are going to want the fries?

 

[ShawnD1]

Are you saying that between fries and no toy and an apple with the toy, kids are going to want the fries?

99% of the time yes. Sometimes the happy meal toys are kinda cool though.

 

[zsdersw]

Are you saying that between fries and no toy and an apple with the toy, kids are going to want the fries?

Yes.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Are you saying that between fries and no toy and an apple with the toy, kids are going to want the fries?

Yes, especially if the parent can spend $1 and get the toy for the kid anyway.

 

[ShawnD1]

Yes, especially if the parent can spend $1 and get the toy for the kid anyway.

Can you really do this? I've never tried to buy just the toy.

 

[theeedude]

Yes, especially if the parent can spend $1 and get the toy for the kid anyway.

Parents who feed kids at McDs are poor. They'll just get the apple one with a toy.

 

[OutHouse]

weee more government meddling in private business and the economy. WEEEEE!!!!!

 

[JSt0rm]

Where were you 60 years ago? Companies would sell toy guns that actually looked like guns; they did not have the colored plastic tips on the barrel. Guess what. Kids didn't go around shooting up schools.

Umm. I think that change was implemented so police wouldn't gun down kids with toy guns.

 

[Craig234]

Umm. I think that change was implemented so police wouldn't gun down kids with toy guns.

And to deprive adult criminals of an easy toy purchase useful in crimes.