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apoppin

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Originally posted by: kopema
People use the word "outdated" like they're talking about hairstyles instead of hardware.

AGP won't be obsolete until somebody who actually HAS upgraded their video card says: "Damn, my computer is all 'bottlenecked' and won't play games any faster. I wish to heck I'd saved that $180 and bought a whole new system instead!"

Until I start seeing a few more posts like that, I'll consider it safe to assume that the obituaries are somewhat exaggerated.

i already posted my regrets over doing just that
:p

i upgraded piecemeal - and it really "worked" for me [but i was *really lucky* with my timing to sell my old HW for what i was paying for the new HW] - but i really WISH i went to PCIe with the "easy button" instead of the hard way
.. of course, the balance was that i learned a LOT on the way; i never "suffered" with any games on AGP ... and it just cost me time
... a lot of extra time :
x850xt>x1950p/512MB while at the same time i went P4 2.80C @ 3.31 G > P4 EE @3.74Ghz > ASrock MB + DDR >DDR2 [with AGP x1950p] and then to C2D e4300@3.25G and finally new CrossFire MB then 2900xt and finally added 2900p for xfire.

phew

i should have gone x850xt [agp] > x1950xt [pcie] and made the switch all at ONCE ..
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: evolucion8
Nah, is no offense, it's true that it's starting to become outdated, is not like it will stop working in a few years because is outdated, after all there's no application that can be run on a Core 2 Duo that for example, a Pentium 4 can't run, but for sure it will bottleneck the next generation of cards. I just wanted to hold on a little longer on my AGP platform while having something that not many people would have, and wait to see the Quad Core price drops.

Also even if FSX or SupCom are heavily multi threaded, there's no CPU that can double your FPS because of that because most games today tends to be more GPU limited than CPU limited (Unless if you plays at 800x600 or lower)

actually, those games will be able to double your fps from single to dual core even with higher resolutions. FSX frame rate can even double by going from dual to quad (and can even utilize ~87% of an 8 core skulltrail platform...)

but you are correct, those games are pretty big oddities, the vast majority of games (even newer ones) will still absolutely fly on a ~2.7GHz Dothan
 

dderolph

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Originally posted by: nitromullet

Just because 1-in-4 gamers on Steam still has an AGP machine currently doesn't mean that they are going to upgrade the video card in that system. My guess is that most people who still have an AGP card now are not the type of people to upgrade components, but are the type of people that replace entire systems. I don't know anyone that has an AGP card that plans on upgrading it before they buy a new PC, and I do know a few people (gamers) that still have an AGP rig.
As usual, a discussion of this topic is almost entirely based on comments by gamers. I'm not a gamer and don't completely agree with the comment above that "most people who still have an AGP card now are not the type of people to upgrade components". I recently bought an EVGA AGP card (nVidia FX5500, 256MB) to replace an older card. Had a $20 rebate, so card ended up costing about $35. I just see an upgrade like this as a way of extending the useful life of my present system; I was using a combination of an AGP card and a PCI card to run two monitors but now run both monitors off the FX5500. I think there's still a significant market for AGP cards among general users. Of course, this market keeps shrinking month by month, but newegg still 78 AGP 4X/8X cards; so, clearly, there's still some buyers out there.

 

Denithor

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I would guess on the high end most people have already switched to PCI-E. It's going to be the people who play old games occasionally with a dated rig, see a new game and get excited only to find it's a slideshow who are going to continue to purchase AGP cards.