No Display Output Discrete or Integrated after Changing BIOS Settings!

[Phallacy]

Hello all,

So in August I moved and because my new place had no extra desk, my desktop was turned off for about 3-4 months. I'm finally settled into my permanent home for the time being so a couple of days ago I turned it on but there was no output from my graphics card. I then switched to integrated and it booted up fine. After this just to make sure, I went into the BIOS, I have a Gigabyte board and changed the init display first setting to PEG to narrow down that it was indeed the card. Still no signal from the card via HDMI, DVI or VGA. I switch back to the integrated on the mobo and now I'm not getting a display signal from that with VGA, HDMI or DVI either.

Does changing the init display first setting from auto to PEG disable the reversion function back to integrated if no card is detected? Has anybody experienced something similar? I've been reading my motherboard manual and maybe resetting the CMOS battery would work since it's been off for quite some time? I've searched the forums but could only find posts about discrete or integrated not working but not both.

Components:
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
CPU: Core i5 3570k
Memory: Corsair 1333 8gb (2x4gb)
HDD Western Digital 1 TB SATA
GPU: Radeon HD 7870 (What I believe is not working)

I've tried multiple HDMI cables, VGA and DVI and can't get any signal after messing with the BIOS. These cables worked perfectly when hooking up my laptops to the display which is an Asus.


Thanks in advance!!

 

[Mushkins]

Remove the 7870 entirely and boot it up. It should default back to integrated video as there is no other option, or at least yell at you and force you to go into the BIOS to change it.

 

[Phallacy]

I tried both variations, with the card in and with the card out. Either way nothing is being displayed from the mobo display ports. It was working prior to me messing with the BIOS settings. After that I can't get anything to display though the computer turns on fine, peripherals are working and HDD access light is doing its thing

 

[Virgorising]

Have you tried fiddling with the setting on the screen itself? Tried another screen? (Sounds too obvious, but I would try anyhow.)
Do you have another video card to test in the system? (Yes, I know nothing changes when you just removed the existing card trying to get the system to employ the integrated video.)

Since resetting CMOS battery is so benign, why not just try that, it was your idea, after all.

 

[corkyg]

Why not try putting your BIOS settings back like they were when it was working?

 

[Phallacy]

Have you tried fiddling with the setting on the screen itself? Tried another screen? (Sounds too obvious, but I would try anyhow.)
Do you have another video card to test in the system? (Yes, I know nothing changes when you just removed the existing card trying to get the system to employ the integrated video.)

Since resetting CMOS battery is so benign, why not just try that, it was your idea, after all.

I tried another screen via DVI and there was no signal. I'm not sure what you mean by fiddling with the screen setting itself ?

Unfortunately I won't have another video card until today/tomorrow. It is in transit to me. I will definitely try the CMOS battery when I'm home but I thought I would ask others for their input while I'm at work, maybe it was some other setting or tweak I missed.

 

[Phallacy]

Why not try putting your BIOS settings back like they were when it was working?

I would like to but I can't see any of that. The computer turns on, you can hear the fans running and the HDD access light is working, just nothing shows up on my display via any of the ports. Any of the display inputs just say No signal detected and goes to black.

 

[Virgorising]

I tried another screen via DVI and there was no signal. I'm not sure what you mean by fiddling with the screen setting itself ?

Unfortunately I won't have another video card until today/tomorrow. It is in transit to me. I will definitely try the CMOS battery when I'm home but I thought I would ask others for their input while I'm at work, maybe it was some other setting or tweak I missed.

Given this started when you changed yr bios setting,s it was unlikely, but still good to rule out.

Same deal with reseating/resetting CMOS batt, and that was your idea.

I now envision new card in transit.

As Corky said, not clear on if you undid the changes you made in the bios or not. Why not just set them to default just to test?

 

[Phallacy]

Given this started when you changed yr bios setting,s it was unlikely, but still good to rule out.

Same deal with reseating/resetting CMOS batt, and that was your idea.

I now envision new card in transit.

As Corky said, not clear on if you undid the changes you made in the bios or not. Why not just set them to default just to test?

I see, no I have not switched the settings back to default. I would love to set them back to default, but how can I do that if i'm unable to see any display and navigate the BIOS menu? Basically the computer is turning on fine, peripherals are working, just nothing, not even BIOS menu is accessible because nothing is being outputted to my screen through integrated graphics after I made the BIOS change to check if it was really the graphics card that was not working. And yes btw, I'm excited for the new card : )

 

[Virgorising]

I see, no I have not switched the settings back to default. I would love to set them back to default, but how can I do that if i'm unable to see any display and navigate the BIOS menu? Basically the computer is turning on fine, peripherals are working, just nothing, not even BIOS menu is accessible because nothing is being outputted to my screen through integrated graphics after I made the BIOS change to check if it was really the graphics card that was not working. And yes btw, I'm excited for the new card : )

Sorry, was in a rush and my brain did not POST. ()

Very Catch-22 this is.:|

What I do not get is why, when U removed the card, the system did not revert to onboard.

 

[Phallacy]

Sorry, was in a rush and my brain did not POST. ()

Very Catch-22 this is.

What I do not get is why, when U removed the card, the system did not revert to onboard.

Well I do know that Gigabyte has a setting in their BIOS where you can set Integrated Graphics as enabled/disabled. It is enabled by default and this PC is from ibuypower. For the life of me I cannot remember which it is set to because prior to this problem, I never had a need to access the BIOS. Hopefully it is at enabled but because the PC came with a card the original people might have set it to disabled. I've just never browsed over that setting when I was changing to BIOS so I have no idea =/

 

[Virgorising]

Well I do know that Gigabyte has a setting in their BIOS where you can set Integrated Graphics as enabled/disabled. It is enabled by default and this PC is from ibuypower. For the life of me I cannot remember which it is set to because prior to this problem, I never had a need to access the BIOS. Hopefully it is at enabled but because the PC came with a card the original people might have set it to disabled. I've just never browsed over that setting when I was changing to BIOS so I have no idea =/

Yes, a lot of bioses have that....including the one in the system I am now on, given the socket supports chips with both integrated and discreet graphics; my chip has no clue re integrated graphics, only discreet.:|

Fingers crossed re when U pop the new card in, you will be up and running again!:biggrin:

 

[jolancer]

i was following the thread and 'Virgorising' i thought you had it settled... but then something happened, smokin or eatin shooms r sumthing.. Tho the op mentioned he found advice about reseting CMOS(tho he hasnt tried it yet cause hes at work) he doesnt seem to realize that will fix his BIOS setting issue as it will reset his changes back to default an turn back on his onboard. Virgorising you obviously new this at some point and then the OP convinced you somehow to forget what i means to reset CMOS? LOL

Unplug the computer, remove the battery for 10seconds or longer. note not a good idea to do the while wearing wool sweater or sox etc. put battery back in proper direction and plug it back in. Onboard video should work.

If not, the aftermarket card you have in transit may still solve your prob by bypassing the onboard issue.

If still not.. I had a similar issue long ago, however i think the computer didn't post or spin up at all, not just display if i recall correctly. so might not work in your case. but replacing the CMOS Battery solved my issue as it musta been dieing or dead.

EDIT: to clearify why i mention the last part, The comp i mentioned was old and i always turned off the power strip so the battery got used up in my case, it probably usually does not for most people's situations. but you did mention yours was Off for a long time after the move and who knows how long before the move.

 

[Virgorising]

i was following the thread and 'Virgorising' i thought you had it settled... but then something happened, smokin or eatin shooms r sumthing.. Tho the op mentioned he found advice about reseting CMOS(tho he hasnt tried it yet cause hes at work) he doesnt seem to realize that will fix his BIOS setting issue as it will reset his changes back to default an turn back on his onboard. Virgorising you obviously new this at some point and then the OP convinced you somehow to forget what i means to reset CMOS? LOL

Unplug the computer, remove the battery for 10seconds or longer. note not a good idea to do the while wearing wool sweater or sox etc. put battery back in proper direction and plug it back in. Onboard video should work.

If not, the aftermarket card you have in transit may still solve your prob by bypassing the onboard issue.

If still not.. I had a similar issue long ago, however i think the computer didn't post or spin up at all, not just display if i recall correctly. so might not work in your case. but replacing the CMOS Battery solved my issue as it musta been dieing or dead.

Is true.:| Often, I often get the solution, then second guess it into the ground. SOOOOO TRUE! In person I am better. Here, I am surrounded by uber pundits, and so second guess. (But I do luv shrooms in omelets, the boring kinds.)

In his case, given the interval during which the system was not being used, he should just get a new CMOS batt. Even locally, they cost little, but on ebay, almost nothing.

Let us cross our toes!()

 

[jolancer]

or free.. i dunno these days but they use to be same size and voltage as some watch batteries, which are sometimes laying around or in a useless old watch. I didn't think it'd work in my situation cause i'v seen watches 2 decades old(prolly exajerated a lil) never had battery changed and still going. So i figured bios batt should last forever. thankfully i was wrong.

I doubt its the ops issue aswell, since his comp doesnt seem too old. but you never know, and worth a shot if running low on options. especially since its cheaper then most options.

 

[Virgorising]

or free.. i dunno these days but they use to be same size and voltage as some watch batteries, which are sometimes laying around or in a useless old watch. I didn't think it'd work in my situation cause i'v seen watches 2 decades old(prolly exajerated a lil) never had battery changed and still going. So i figured bios batt should last forever. thankfully i was wrong.

I doubt its the ops issue aswell, since his comp doesnt seem too old. but you never know, and worth a shot if running low on options. especially since its cheaper then most options.

Ditto on all of the above:biggrin:. Tho I know nothing about watch batts, have watches, never wear them, and am always early anyhow. Not cause of my phone either. Well, sometimes my phone.:whiste:

Very frustrating, his problem!!!!! I send props cause his decency remains intact. It does that. Decency.

But U bet, CMOS batts do not last forever. I am just worried re the synchronicity in this re his fiddling with the bios and the issue following that.

So first, for no money, he could just reset the existing one and see wut happens.

 

[Phallacy]

Thanks for your comments Virgorising and jolancer. I will almost certainly try out the reset when I am indeed home. It's just weird again as virgorising said because I am perplexed as to why the onboard graphics are not being initialized when there is no discrete graphics in the rig. And yes I as well have my toes and fingers crossed that it is just a simple reset issue. Otherwise the r9 290x I ordered will be out of commission for sometime : (

 

[Virgorising]

Thanks for your comments Virgorising and jolancer. I will almost certainly try out the reset when I am indeed home. It's just weird again as virgorising said because I am perplexed as to why the onboard graphics are not being initialized when there is no discrete graphics in the rig. And yes I as well have my toes and fingers crossed that it is just a simple reset issue. Otherwise the r9 290x I ordered will be out of commission for sometime : (

:thumbsup:

I only do toes, cause I can not work if I do fingers. Cross them, I mean.()

If it turns out you didn't need the new card, you could send it back! I know, annoying, but, you could!!!

 

[Virgorising]

Very impressive re this Ivy chip:

EVOLVED GRAPHICS

Built-in visual features such as the Intel Quick Sync Video 2.0 and Intel Clear Video HD Technology enable compelling user experiences across a wide range of intelligent systems. Whether your application involves medical imaging, video surveillance, or HD media playback, the 3rd generation Intel Core processors support smooth visuals, quick digital image downloads, high-density media processing, and synchronous video streams. The support for DirectX 11, OpenCL 1.1 and OpenGL 3.1 takes your gaming and computing experience to a brand new level.​

 

[Phallacy]

Well I had a chance to remove the battery and reset the CMOS, however now I've run into a much bigger problem. I get display through to Bios and loading screen but run into the BSOD everytime. Tried windows repair which said it could not automatically repair the system. Then I tried windows restore and it seemed to have worked because it said restore successful. But I kept getting BSOD at loading after the restore attempt. Chk dsk said disk had 0 errors but only showed about 4 mb of space total? Chk dsk /f said it's not possible because it's write protected.

I got a bunch of error codes in the detailed view of repair problems and have the code that comes when the blue screen appears. Have to look them up but this is where I am at.

 

[Virgorising]

Well I had a chance to remove the battery and reset the CMOS, however now I've run into a much bigger problem. I get display through to Bios and loading screen but run into the BSOD everytime. Tried windows repair which said it could not automatically repair the system. Then I tried windows restore and it seemed to have worked because it said restore successful. But I kept getting BSOD at loading after the restore attempt. Chk dsk said disk had 0 errors but only showed about 4 mb of space total? Chk dsk /f said it's not possible because it's write protected.

I got a bunch of error codes in the detailed view of repair problems and have the code that comes when the blue screen appears. Have to look them up but this is where I am at.

WELL! Congrats on the progress!

Not sure why you are getting blue screens, but it is possible you just need a brand new CMOS batt. Can't wait until others weigh in on this.

 

[Steltek]

Look through the BIOS screens on the SATA settings and see how it is set up there. Is it set for IDE/legacy boot, AHCI, or RAID? If it is set for IDE/legacy or RAID, try setting it to AHCI. The bad thing about it is that if the SATA settings were wrong after the BIOS reset, your attempts at Windows repair and Windows restore may have trashed the contents of your hard drive.

It might not be a bad idea to boot the system using a Linux live CD to see if you can access the contents of the hard drive if you have files you need to recover.

 

[sm625]

Verify that you have tried to boot up using the VGA connector on the motherboard with no video card installed in the PCIe slot.

 

[jolancer]

Verify that you have tried to boot up using the VGA connector on the motherboard with no video card installed in the PCIe slot.

Drinking and posting isn't as bad or as dangerous as drinking and driving, but its just as bothersome.

At this point he just needs to set the correct Sata mode for his boot device in Bios, as Steltek already mentioned.




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[Phallacy]

Thanks for the comments all, I do appreciate them. Will check out the SATA settings tonight after work again. I don't have anything critical that I would need to recover really. Mainly a bunch of papers and reports when I was in college and some games installed but that's no biggie. All my finance/work stuff is stored on an external, on my laptop and in the icloud.