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No collaborative relationship

Isn't is odd. Ever since the Newsweek article, the MSM, and primarily those of the noticably left-leaning bent, have circled the wagons and are spamming the news with allegations by detainess of Quran abuse. While they are busy spinning their wheels and deperately trying to cover for Newsweek's faux pas, to avoid marginalizing themselves any more than they already have since Dan Blather couldn't refrain from flushing his own career down the john, they ignore relevant stories about goings on in Iraq.

Maybe it's because they've already set their story line in stone on this particular issue and don't want to present any news that might disagree with that line and show them? Who knows. But apparently Iraq did have a relationship with al Qaeda, as new documents recovered from Saddam's Secret Serice archives are detailing.

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.169852178&par=0

IRAQ: FORMER PM REVEALS SECRET SERVICE DATA ON BIRTH OF AL-QAEDA IN IRAQ













Baghdad, 23 May (AKI) - The number two of the al-Qaeda network, Ayman al-Zawahiri, visited Iraq under a false name in September 1999 to take part in the ninth Popular Islamic Congress, former Iraqi premier Iyad Allawi has revealed to pan-Arab daily al-Hayat. In an interview, Allawi made public information discovered by the Iraqi secret service in the archives of the Saddam Hussein regime, which sheds light on the relationship between Saddam Hussein and the Islamic terrorist network. He also said that both al-Zawahiri and Jordanian militant al-Zarqawi probably entered Iraq in the same period.

"Al-Zawahiri was summoned by Izza Ibrahim Al-Douri ? then deputy head of the council of the leadership of the revolution - to take part in the congress, along with some 150 other Islamic figures from 50 Muslim countries," Allawi said.

According to Allawi, important information has been gathered regarding the presence of another key terrorist figure operating in Iraq - the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

"The Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi entered Iraq secretly in the same period," Allawi affirmed, "and began to form a terrorist cell, even though the Iraqi services do not have precise information on his entry into the country," he said.

Allawi's remarks come after statements to al-Hayat by King Abdallah II of Jordan over Saddam's refusal to hand over al-Zarqawi to the authorities in Amman.

On this question Allawi said: ''The words of the Jordanian King are correct and important. We have proof of al-Zawahiri's visit to Iraq, but we do not have the precise date or information on al-Zarqawi's entry, though it is likely that he arrived around the same time."

In Allawi's view, Saddam's government "sponsored" the birth of al-Qaeda in Iraq, coordinating with other terrorist groups, both Arab and Muslim. "The Iraqi secret services had links to these groups through a person called Faruq Hajizi, later named Iraq's ambassador to Turkey and arrested after the fall of Saddam's regime as he tried to re-enter Iraq. Iraqi secret agents helped terrorists enter the country and directed them to the Ansar al-Islam camps in the Halbija area," he said.

The former prime minister claims that Saddam's regime sought to involve even Palestinian Abu Nidal - head of a group once considered the world's most dangerous terrorist organisation - in its terrorist circuit. Abu Nidal's organisation was responsible for terrorist attacks in some 20 countries, killing more than 300 people and wounding hundreds more.

He added that Abu Nidal's refusal to cooperate with Islamist groups was the reason for his death in Iraq, in the summer of 2002.
Well. So much for no "collaborative" relationship between Saddam and AQ. Another one down the tubes.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
former Iraqi premier Iyad Allawi has revealed to pan-Arab daily al-H

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Oh stop! My sides are hurting!!!
You better be careful then.

If your sides actually split open from the laughter, I would recommend stuffing the straw back in and stitching them up quickly with twine.

 
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!

Oh did they forge the former VP in Saddams regime admitting to Galloways involvement?

 
No charges have ever stuck against Galloway. His charity has even been investigated and nothing was found.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Innocent until proven guilty, right?

Doesnt mean we cant form an opinion yet. Having your name plastered all over former regime documents and a VP admitting to your involvement doesnt really seem to paint a picture of innocence.

 
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!

Ah, so you chose "duhversion" instead of addressing it. Figures...

CsG
 
Originally posted by: conjur
No charges have ever stuck against Galloway. His charity has even been investigated and nothing was found.
Yeah, nothing was found because his Arab buddy absconded with some vital paperwork that they refused to release to the investigating commission. Galloway - 'Go ahead and look at the charity records. We already took away anything incriminating so you can't get your hands on it.'

And no charges have stuck yet to the Teflon Pawn. I don't 'spect that will last for too much longer though.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!

Ah, so you chose "duhversion" instead of addressing it. Figures...

CsG
There's nothing to address. Allawi has ZERO credibility! He's as bad as Chalabi!
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!

Ah, so you chose "duhversion" instead of addressing it. Figures...

CsG
There's nothing to address. Allawi has ZERO credibility! He's as bad as Chalabi!

Maybe we should detain Allwai in Gitmo? Then conjur would believe anything he said. 😉 :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!

Ah, so you chose "duhversion" instead of addressing it. Figures...

CsG
There's nothing to address. Allawi has ZERO credibility! He's as bad as Chalabi!

Maybe we should detain Allwai in Gitmo? Then conjur would believe anything he said. 😉 :laugh:


:thumbsup: 😀 :thumbsup:

CsG
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!
Ah, so you chose "duhversion" instead of addressing it. Figures...

CsG
There's nothing to address. Allawi has ZERO credibility! He's as bad as Chalabi!
Maybe we should detain Allwai in Gitmo? Then conjur would believe anything he said. 😉 :laugh:
How so? There's been little to nothing gained through torturing prisoners.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!
Ah, so you chose "duhversion" instead of addressing it. Figures...

CsG
There's nothing to address. Allawi has ZERO credibility! He's as bad as Chalabi!
Maybe we should detain Allwai in Gitmo? Then conjur would believe anything he said. 😉 :laugh:
How so? There's been little to nothing gained through torturing prisoners.

Well, you seem to believe any accusation coming from those housed in Gitmo, so if we put Allawi in there you might believe his statements.

Again, do you have anthing that disproves the OP?

CsG
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!
Ah, so you chose "duhversion" instead of addressing it. Figures...

CsG
There's nothing to address. Allawi has ZERO credibility! He's as bad as Chalabi!
Maybe we should detain Allwai in Gitmo? Then conjur would believe anything he said. 😉 :laugh:
How so? There's been little to nothing gained through torturing prisoners.
Well, you seem to believe any accusation coming from those housed in Gitmo, so if we put Allawi in there you might believe his statements.

Again, do you have anthing that disproves the OP?

CsG
Ah...thought so. Engaging in more apples-to-oranges comparisons. Gotcha. Anything to bolster your weak stance.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Allawi is a puppet. He's a tool. We've already seen the forged documents pointing to people like Galloway and the Oil-for-Food scandal. And now, out of thin air these documents appear? GIVE ME A BREAK!
Ah, so you chose "duhversion" instead of addressing it. Figures...

CsG
There's nothing to address. Allawi has ZERO credibility! He's as bad as Chalabi!
Maybe we should detain Allwai in Gitmo? Then conjur would believe anything he said. 😉 :laugh:
How so? There's been little to nothing gained through torturing prisoners.
Well, you seem to believe any accusation coming from those housed in Gitmo, so if we put Allawi in there you might believe his statements.

Again, do you have anthing that disproves the OP?

CsG
Ah...thought so. Engaging in more apples-to-oranges comparisons. Gotcha. Anything to bolster your weak stance.

You have not responded to the OP. All you have is duhversionary rhetoric to spew about Allawi. Find anything that disproves the OP yet?

CsG
 
Another interesting thing, why did it take SO long for someone, whose political party was funded by the CIA and British intelligence and who is also a former Ba'athist, to go public with this "information"? Rather opportune time, eh? Esp. considering the skyrocketing death rate in Iraq.
 
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