No Charges Against Rep. McKinney in Scuffle With Capitol Police

[Looney]

The democrats should kick her out of the party... but unfortunately, it probably won't happen now.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
PS: No one responded when I asked "...she's a girl, how hard can she hit?" I mean what man is going to press charges? Additionally why didn't the guard arrest her right there if it were truly an "assault"? And further, why did he apologize to her immediately after the incident?

most of this argument seems to be idiotic anyway, but i'll bite.

Its common knowledge that laying hands on a cop is not allowed. To allow anyone to arbitrarily decide it ok to hit, push,shove a cop would be a poor precedent to set.
And would make it impossible for them to do thier job.
This kind of reminds me of when Eva Gabor did the drive by slapping of the cop in California (traffic stop) a few years ago. She of course was charged for it since celebrity status is no more excuse then race.

Well, I was party joking around. Unfortunately, it's hard to disect the merits of this non-case, because we don't know the details. Perhaps she instinctively hit as a reaction to being grabbed? Perhaps the issue was blown out of proportion somehow? Perhaps they apologized to each other later and that was that. Perhaps the GJ looked at the incident and rolled their eyes over the pettyness.

Unless the guard sells the rights to his "story," we'll never know.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize
Probably no harder than a skinny overaged emo can hit, why does that matter? I admittedly don't seek out this stuff - but I thought she apologized to him afterwards? <shrug>

She apologized for playing the race card. As she should have.

Frankly, it seems, based on responses in this thread, that it's become yet another partisan issue. She's a democrat, mid-terms are coming up, the wingnuts need to be able to point to something wrong on the other side of the aisle.

So there's this. And then there's Jefferson. What else they got?

Awww, upset your guys are in the front pages due to their corrupt actions?

At least these people are elected representatives, unlike the Democrats bashing on a whitehouse aide.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize
Probably no harder than a skinny overaged emo can hit, why does that matter? I admittedly don't seek out this stuff - but I thought she apologized to him afterwards? <shrug>

She apologized for playing the race card. As she should have.

Frankly, it seems, based on responses in this thread, that it's become yet another partisan issue. She's a democrat, mid-terms are coming up, the wingnuts need to be able to point to something wrong on the other side of the aisle.

So there's this. And then there's Jefferson. What else they got?

Awww, upset your guys are in the front pages due to their corrupt actions?

At least these people are elected representatives, unlike the Democrats bashing on a whitehouse aide.

I don't know what your talking about in regards to the whitehouse aide, but if there is corruption in goverment it doesn't make a hill of beans if the party in question was elected, appointed, or a civil servant. To imply/suggest otherwise just shows everybody what a partisian hack you really are.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: zendari
Awww, upset your guys are in the front pages due to their corrupt actions?

At least these people are elected representatives, unlike the Democrats bashing on a whitehouse aide.

They're not "my guys" ... in fact I'm a registered independent. I only despise the Dems a little less than the GOP. As I've mentioned in numerous threads (not that you actually read any of them before spouting your usual nonsense), corruption is corruption regardless of party.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DonVito
What I gather Zendari doesn't understand is that this case was prosecuted by the D.C. U.S. Attorney, who was nominated by John Ashcroft and President Bush. If anything this was, in my professional opinion, a slightly overambitious prosecution in that it was pursued as a felony rather than a misdemeanor. As I pointed out above, the grand jury in this case was essentially interchangeable with the one that elected not to indict Karl Rove. You can't approve of one and disapprove of the other on any principled basis .

You talking about Howard Dean?

"Good news for the White House, not so good news for America,"

I wonder if this is

"Good news for violent congresswoman, not so good news for America,"

So you're saying Rove should also have been indicted?

At least then you'll be holding a consistent position, and hey, there's a first time for everything.

One would have to ask Howard Dean.

No, one would not have to ask Howard Dean, unless one cared whether Howard Dean held a consistent position on this matter.

Since I don't care at the moment about Howard Dean, but rather about whether you have finally developed an opinion which is neither hypocritical nor severely irrational, I am in fact asking my question of the correct person: you.

Edit after DV's post:

I agree that it's perfectly possible for one case to result in an indictment, and another to result in no indictment, but you can't hold the position that the Grand Jury is somehow corrupt and untrustworthy in one instance, but 'rightly exhonerated' an individual in another closely timed instance. This is especially true when the only people conceivably able to affect the makeup of the jury would have more reason to do so in the case of Rove than McKinney.

*crickets*

another troll'n'run.

just answer the question zen!

Has the whole institution of the Grand Jury somehow been corrupted by the evil democrats even though the only political oversight is republican?

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: mcvickj
I can smell the BS all the way over here in Michigan. I certainly don't agree with the outcome. She should have been charged. Just one more politician who thinks they are above the law.

So it's her fault she wasn't prosecuted?


EDIT: prosecuted

 

[Mill]

Most of you are rather hilarious. McKinney's case was brought before a Grand Jury. The prosecutor can't force them to indict her. They returned a "no bill" which essentially says a case does not exist to be answered. In other words, they found that there wasn't enough evidence that a crime occurred or that a crime did not occur. It had nothing to do with "the government decided not to bother her" or that the prosecutor was a wimp. In a Grand Jury, a decedent typically does not testify or have access to the proceedings. The prosecutor makes their points and then the jury decides whether to indict or not. If anything, a Grand Jury is harder on a defendant than a preliminary hearing by a judge.

Anyway, kudos to DonVito as he provided the actual truth and logic this thread needed. For the record, I think the Grand Jury made a mistake. It could be what DonVito suggested in that they overcharged her and they felt her actions didn't warrant a felony.

 

[classy]

Here's a thought, maybe the officer was in the wrong and her hitting him while on the surface was wrong, but understandable. If the grand jury didn't indict her, that says volumes about the incident and the officer.

 

[JRich]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Grand jury saw the evidence and decided it wasn't enough. Case closed. People in America need to grow a thicker skin. Somebody touches them the wrong way, and bam they charge assault.

Go hit a cop and report back to us.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize
Probably no harder than a skinny overaged emo can hit, why does that matter? I admittedly don't seek out this stuff - but I thought she apologized to him afterwards? <shrug>

She apologized for playing the race card. As she should have.

Frankly, it seems, based on responses in this thread, that it's become yet another partisan issue. She's a democrat, mid-terms are coming up, the wingnuts need to be able to point to something wrong on the other side of the aisle.

So there's this. And then there's Jefferson. What else they got?

You're right. We need to stop this thread and get back to important things. Did you hear Bush made fun of a blind reporter? 😀

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: classy
Here's a thought, maybe the officer was in the wrong and her hitting him while on the surface was wrong, but understandable. If the grand jury didn't indict her, that says volumes about the incident and the officer.

Maybe everybody assumed the worse about her because she's such a loon.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize
Probably no harder than a skinny overaged emo can hit, why does that matter? I admittedly don't seek out this stuff - but I thought she apologized to him afterwards? <shrug>

She apologized for playing the race card. As she should have.

Frankly, it seems, based on responses in this thread, that it's become yet another partisan issue. She's a democrat, mid-terms are coming up, the wingnuts need to be able to point to something wrong on the other side of the aisle.

So there's this. And then there's Jefferson. What else they got?

You're right. We need to stop this thread and get back to important things. Did you hear Bush made fun of a blind reporter? 😀

Yeah, that jerk! Why doesn't he go kick a puppy while he's at it? 😛

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize
Probably no harder than a skinny overaged emo can hit, why does that matter? I admittedly don't seek out this stuff - but I thought she apologized to him afterwards? <shrug>

She apologized for playing the race card. As she should have.

Frankly, it seems, based on responses in this thread, that it's become yet another partisan issue. She's a democrat, mid-terms are coming up, the wingnuts need to be able to point to something wrong on the other side of the aisle.

So there's this. And then there's Jefferson. What else they got?

You're right. We need to stop this thread and get back to important things. Did you hear Bush made fun of a blind reporter? 😀

LOL i did see that, that was pretty bad. That whole press conference was weird, he was trying to be funny but nobody was laughing (well you could tell it was force laughter).