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No Blind Spot Rear View Mirror

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thescreensavers

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When I back up I use my side and rear view mirrors. I don't need to turn my head around.

Only reason I am getting a backup camera is so that I can gauge distance from the curb/wall better when backing up. I still have issue with that in any car really.
 

phucheneh

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Yes, you need to turn your head around. Those of us that do so are not just simply too retarded to use the small reflective rectangles stuck to our windshields.

You have no awareness while only using your mirrors. Just because you're backing up straight, does not mean you are only concerned with what is straight behind you.

You are every parking lot 'accident' that has ever happened.
 

JulesMaximus

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Yes, you need to turn your head around. Those of us that do so are not just simply too retarded to use the small reflective rectangles stuck to our windshields.

You have no awareness while only using your mirrors. Just because you're backing up straight, does not mean you are only concerned with what is straight behind you.

You are every parking lot 'accident' that has ever happened.

:thumbsup:
 

Mark R

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When I back up I use my side and rear view mirrors. I don't need to turn my head around.

Only reason I am getting a backup camera is so that I can gauge distance from the curb/wall better when backing up. I still have issue with that in any car really.

You mirrors don't give acceptable coverage in reverse. Turning round is better, but still not ideal.

I did some advanced driver training, and one of the tips they taught was that you can't rely on looking behind you when reversing in high-risk areas like parking lots. They taught, always drive past the space you want, check it is clear and then reverse in. You can then drive straight out.

If you drive into a spot, then you usually have to reverse out. After you've put the kids in their seats, loaded up the car, set the radio, started the car, you've only got the limited view from the driver's seat to help you out.
 

phucheneh

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I dock points for turning the head and not using mirrors.

Like I said, it's about awareness. Using mirrors for positioning is a skill, yes. But it's like comparing 'point shooting' to a sniper's scope. Yeah, proper practice with the latter can make you a great shot. But you're a lot more vulnerable to someone walking up next to you and clubbing you in the head.

We may be thinking/talking about different things. Backing into your garage without turning your head? Sure. Backing out of a space in a busy parking lot? No.
 

Pardus

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Adjusted mirrors properly and it works well, takes time getting used to it. Now i could figure out a way to get out of intersection when there is a huge ass suv parked on the corner blocking your view. Times like this, a periscope would work.
 

SparkyJJO

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Like I said, it's about awareness. Using mirrors for positioning is a skill, yes. But it's like comparing 'point shooting' to a sniper's scope. Yeah, proper practice with the latter can make you a great shot. But you're a lot more vulnerable to someone walking up next to you and clubbing you in the head.

We may be thinking/talking about different things. Backing into your garage without turning your head? Sure. Backing out of a space in a busy parking lot? No.

With the larger side mirrors and wide angles on them I can actually see more around my SUV than turning around. Turning around I am looking through the small-ish rear window a seat row and truck space back, and the tinted side windows. The side mirrors let me see more because I'm not limited vision-height of the side windows.

Now in my car the visibility of the small side mirrors is pretty bad, so I turn around more often with it. Although it has a wide sail panel that makes it hard to see through also and a short and long rear hatch window, so there is only so much I can see regardless of which way I look :p

Sorry that you feel your way is the only way, but, no, it isn't. Depends on the vehicle which way gives you more visibility.
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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With the larger side mirrors and wide angles on them I can actually see more around my SUV than turning around. Turning around I am looking through the small-ish rear window a seat row and truck space back, and the tinted side windows. The side mirrors let me see more because I'm not limited vision-height of the side windows.

Now in my car the visibility of the small side mirrors is pretty bad, so I turn around more often with it. Although it has a wide sail panel that makes it hard to see through also and a short and long rear hatch window, so there is only so much I can see regardless of which way I look :p

Sorry that you feel your way is the only way, but, no, it isn't. Depends on the vehicle which way gives you more visibility.

The problem is that unless you have multiple mirrors (as in a semi tractor or bus or other oversize vehicle) it's impossible to have the side mirrors in a position where they are useful for both driving and reversing.

If you have the side mirrors on a typical car or SUV adjusted so that you can use them for reversing, they will be worthless for detecting vehicles in your blind spot when you're driving down the road. Additionally, the side mirrors will still never show what's directly behind you and even the center mirror will still me limited by the size of the rear window and the vehicle's belt line, so you don't actually see any better directly behind you with the mirrors. You may see a bit better as far as where the sides of your car are relative to the side of a garage door opening with the mirrors, but they won't help prevent you from driving over something.

I suppose that if you adjusted the mirrors, reversed, stopped to re-adjust the mirrors, and then drove you'd be OK, but that's a lot of work every time you put the vehicle in reverse.

ZV
 

SparkyJJO

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I have those wide-angle spot mirrors on it, and they aren't the tiny little 1" things either. At first I didn't like them (they were on there when I got it), but now I'm used to them and they actually are quite helpful. With where I have the mirrors set at even a motorcycle can't get in a blind spot on the side as I'll still see him in the wide angle. They work well for reversing also with where they are at (I do move my head around a bit to spot something down lower like a parking spot line for example).

I know the mirrors still give limitations on visibility directly behind me due to the size of the rear window, but turning around doesn't do anything for the belt line or rear window either. Reversing I do have a blind spot directly behind the rear and down low, but aside from retrofitting a reverse camera there is no avoiding that anyway. Whenever I come out to my truck to go anywhere I always take a quick look behind it.

I do have blind spots on the Camaro so I have to turn and look over my shoulder before changing lanes, or when backing up, etc.
 
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