No 2800+ until 2003

[NOX]

I thought the RDRAM bundle was before the P4? It was shortly after the i820 was released; because of the Intel MTH when using SDRAM. That?s when Intel began to include a stick of RDRAM with the i820 (VC820). I don?t ever remember Intel including RDRAM with the P4/i850, because if that were the case they would have included two sticks (which I don?t think they did). ASUS includes a stick of RDRAM 4200, but that is not Intel.

When the retail P4 1.5 was released I bought it, and I never got a stick or RDRAM.

It may appear that the Athlon XP 2800+ processors that will be sold in retail in the first quarter 2003 are based on the Barton core. This information is not confirmed by AMD, but looks quite logical, since the current Thoroughbred based processors will be supplied exclusively to certain computer vendors only.

I thought we all knew this already. The 2800+ is not readily available and won?t be until Q1 2003. Newegg could possibly be an ?exclusive? vendor, and in being an exclusive vendor must follow strict OEM guidelines set forward by AMD. Thus the reason why you MUST buy a certified AMD mother board before you can even purchase the 2800+. So even though your current motherboard can support a 2800+ with a simple bios upgrade you have to buy a new board or wait until they are readily available.

Believe it or not this makes sense for AMD. That way none of the few OEM vendors offering AMD processors don?t get disappointed and cause hostility towards each other, retailers and or AMD.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: sparks
What a big dissapointment. According to Xbitlabs, we wont see the 2800+ til 2003. By that time Intel may even be at 3.3HGz.

This sounds like FUD to me. You can get a XP2800+ from Newegg. Yes you have to buy an "approved" motherboard with it but you can still get the cpu if you want one.

 

[DaFinn]

Both 2700+ and 2800+ are listed at wholesalers/ in stock in Finland? I've allways though you Americans get all the good stuff first?
The quantities are small, but available so Xbitlabs is can s.... it!

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: sparks
What a big dissapointment. According to Xbitlabs, we wont see the 2800+ til 2003. By that time Intel may even be at 3.3HGz.

This sounds like FUD to me. You can get a XP2800+ from Newegg. Yes you have to buy an "approved" motherboard with it but you can still get the cpu if you want one.

The original post is almost a month old (10-24). Newegg didn't get the chips in until about a week ago.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: nemo160
might be a way to avoid returns caused by people running it on boards that are too old to support it

That does make sense; example - there was just a BIOS released for the Shuttle AK35GTR motherboard that allowed XP2600 compliance, but the revision history said nothing of anything higher.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: nemo160
might be a way to avoid returns caused by people running it on boards that are too old to support it

That does make sense; example - there was just a BIOS released for the Shuttle AK35GTR motherboard that allowed XP2600 compliance, but the revision history said nothing of anything higher.

But the scenario is no different than with the 2.16ghz Athlon, the 3.06ghz P4, or any new cpu.

 

[BFG10K]

Sure it is, in the simplest, purest, business/economics sense, they both serve as barriers to entry

Uh, no.

If I sell you a motherboard with anti-virus bundled with it, is that anti-virus program "a barrier to entry" for you?

Heck no.

OTOH if I require you to buy a specific motherboard before you are allowed to buy any form of anti-virus, that is a barrier to entry. Just like you can't buy the 2800+ in any form unless you buy a specific motherboard first.