NM Figured it out! Deciding between a CRT 65" Toshiba or picking up a Projector (DLP)

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I know you said HD, but the projector you linked to wasn't HD, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I love my Infocus 4805.

You can get one for about $1000 and the bulb that is rated to last about 3000 hours.
With the money saved, you could get a replacement bulb.

I've used the 4805 with a 720p signal and it looked excellent. It also has a very good deinterlacer that would help SD stuff look pretty good.

If you're going to use this projector for watching HDTV and movies, I would suggest a 16:9 one instead of a 4:3.

EDIT: btw, you're getting/have a nice sound system to match, right? 😛

I think there is a hot deal going on with an Infocus 4805 refurb (but with warranty) for $700. Might be something else to look into.

Again I would but the rainbow effect, needing to be in a darker room and agin that it would be on at a min 12 hours perday (My youngest and I would be gaming, watching tv on it and then we would watch movies or tv at night, would cost me alot more in the long run then just getting the CRT 65".

Thanks to all that helped in making up my mind what is more cost efficiant for me if I went big screen goodness.

Just checking - have you looked at any DLPs to see if the rainbow effect bothered you? The 4805 has a faster color wheel in its list of improvements over the X1 (4800).

I can see RBE if I try to see it (moving my eyes around rapidly when there's bright text on a black background), but I can't see it 99% of the time.

Not having a dark room is a big drawback though, so I guess a front projector wouldn't be too great of a choice.

 

[dartworth]

Are we taking donations for this new DLP...?

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I know you said HD, but the projector you linked to wasn't HD, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I love my Infocus 4805.

You can get one for about $1000 and the bulb that is rated to last about 3000 hours.
With the money saved, you could get a replacement bulb.

I've used the 4805 with a 720p signal and it looked excellent. It also has a very good deinterlacer that would help SD stuff look pretty good.

If you're going to use this projector for watching HDTV and movies, I would suggest a 16:9 one instead of a 4:3.

EDIT: btw, you're getting/have a nice sound system to match, right? 😛

I think there is a hot deal going on with an Infocus 4805 refurb (but with warranty) for $700. Might be something else to look into.

Again I would but the rainbow effect, needing to be in a darker room and agin that it would be on at a min 12 hours perday (My youngest and I would be gaming, watching tv on it and then we would watch movies or tv at night, would cost me alot more in the long run then just getting the CRT 65".

Thanks to all that helped in making up my mind what is more cost efficiant for me if I went big screen goodness.

Just checking - have you looked at any DLPs to see if the rainbow effect bothered you? The 4805 has a faster color wheel in its list of improvements over the X1 (4800).

I can see RBE if I try to see it (moving my eyes around rapidly when there's bright text on a black background), but I can't see it 99% of the time.

Not having a dark room is a big drawback though, so I guess a front projector wouldn't be too great of a choice.

No but because I am disabled I cant just go to the store and look and I have to be sure that what I pic out wont need to be returned or if the effect bothers me wont have to be returned. I need to make a safe sure purchase at this point. But thanks!

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: dartworth
Are we taking donations for this new DLP...?

Learn how to read. Look up a few on what I wrote.

 

[ultravox]

Samsung DLP ......you can't use a projector as a regular TV.
Before buying anything check out the Samsung.....let your eyes be the judge not some statistics. I had in mind a Sony when I bought my projection TV and after looking at the pictures of a row of sets where I couldn't see the name I found myself constantly looking at the Toshiba...then another brand and only 3rd choice was Sony yet that was what I came in to buy ! I do the same for speakers....to hell with the stats ...go for what you like!

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: ultravox
Samsung DLP ......you can't use a projector as a regular TV.
Before buying anything check out the Samsung.....let your eyes be the judge not some statistics. I had in mind a Sony when I bought my projection TV and after looking at the pictures of a row of sets where I couldn't see the name I found myself constantly looking at the Toshiba...then another brand and only 3rd choice was Sony yet that was what I came in to buy ! I do the same for speakers....to hell with the stats ...go for what you like!

But you missed that I cannot. Where I am moving I will be 1 hour away from anyhting. I am disabled as well so getting out of the house is very hard and painful for me hence why I was asking for help in deciding and just decided to go the safe easy route plus should be cheaper in the long run as well.
Thanks anyway.

 

[ultravox]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: ultravox
Samsung DLP ......you can't use a projector as a regular TV.
Before buying anything check out the Samsung.....let your eyes be the judge not some statistics. I had in mind a Sony when I bought my projection TV and after looking at the pictures of a row of sets where I couldn't see the name I found myself constantly looking at the Toshiba...then another brand and only 3rd choice was Sony yet that was what I came in to buy ! I do the same for speakers....to hell with the stats ...go for what you like!

But you missed that I cannot. Where I am moving I will be 1 hour away from anyhting. I am disabled as well so getting out of the house is very hard and painful for me hence why I was asking for help in deciding and just decided to go the safe easy route plus should be cheaper in the long run as well.
Thanks anyway.

My mistake ...... (I am right about the Samsung though.......it's a real pearl 🙂

 

[Ophir]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: Ophir
Huh? Isn't this you? How the hell can you afford a $2000 projector and HT setup. Spend $100 on a used tube and the rest on your family, home.

Did you win the lottery? If you didn't you really should save it, or quit lying.

Yes just so you all can stop trying to find dirt on me if you had looked for that you would of seen how my workers comp lawsuit is over finnaly and I bought a house. ALSO since I am such a big lyer you should of also looked up where I am asking for help in our move because I cant do it. I am such the huge lyer I am asking for my fellow aters to come to my house and see me walking errect lifing several items into the moving truck not using my cane or wheelchair. Again I been truthful since day one, never hid anything from anyone EVER, its all there for all to look me up and see and yet still some asshats try to discredit me. I guess all the doctors, needles, xrays, PAIN, My family living in poverty since I got hurt, my wife having to find a job to keep us all afloat was all a lie amd I am a sick individual to put my family and friends through all of that 😛

Give it all up.

OH and lets not forget the people from the forum that a few years ago saw our condition first hand IN PERSON when I was hurt and going through paxil withdraws. Funny how all of that isnt found anywhere and just fades out of the minds because everyone is sooooooo gun hoe of proving I am something I am not. I get asked a question and I answer it I am making up excusses. I dont answer the questions and I am lying, people come to my house and see first hand and it all of a sudden never happened and no one ever showed up. Just as long as some get to find dirt on someone and make out thier twisted truths to be true is all that matters.


Stuck it in bold for the ones that can seem to read.

Settle down.

I have been out recently and missed your recent moving thread. I did, however, read the thread I linked and remember feeling quite a bit of sympathy for your situation. Not only that but in that thread you go on and on about not finding an end to your financial difficulties:

I see no way to get us out of where we are at.

Mind you that thread was started less than 2 months ago. Then I saw you posting that you want a $1500+ HT setup; understandably, I was a little confused and, quite frankly, upset.

Congrats on getting your financial problems straightened out, but you really should try going back and reading through that thread before getting your panties in a bunch.

Still, IMO, unless that money is truly disposable you should spend that money on your home and family, NOT on an HT setup. Before you say so, buying a TV is NOT spending money on your family.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: Ophir

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: Ophir
Huh? Isn't this you? How the hell can you afford a $2000 projector and HT setup. Spend $100 on a used tube and the rest on your family, home.

Did you win the lottery? If you didn't you really should save it, or quit lying.

Yes just so you all can stop trying to find dirt on me if you had looked for that you would of seen how my workers comp lawsuit is over finnaly and I bought a house. ALSO since I am such a big lyer you should of also looked up where I am asking for help in our move because I cant do it. I am such the huge lyer I am asking for my fellow aters to come to my house and see me walking errect lifing several items into the moving truck not using my cane or wheelchair. Again I been truthful since day one, never hid anything from anyone EVER, its all there for all to look me up and see and yet still some asshats try to discredit me. I guess all the doctors, needles, xrays, PAIN, My family living in poverty since I got hurt, my wife having to find a job to keep us all afloat was all a lie amd I am a sick individual to put my family and friends through all of that 😛

Give it all up.

OH and lets not forget the people from the forum that a few years ago saw our condition first hand IN PERSON when I was hurt and going through paxil withdraws. Funny how all of that isnt found anywhere and just fades out of the minds because everyone is sooooooo gun hoe of proving I am something I am not. I get asked a question and I answer it I am making up excusses. I dont answer the questions and I am lying, people come to my house and see first hand and it all of a sudden never happened and no one ever showed up. Just as long as some get to find dirt on someone and make out thier twisted truths to be true is all that matters.


Stuck it in bold for the ones that can seem to read.

Settle down.

I have been out recently and missed your recent moving thread. I did, however, read the thread I linked and remember feeling quite a bit of sympathy for your situation. Not only that but in that thread you go on and on about not finding an end to your financial difficulties:

I see no way to get us out of where we are at.

Mind you that thread was started less than 2 months ago. Then I saw you posting that you want a $1500+ HT setup; understandably, I was a little confused and, quite frankly, upset.

Congrats on getting your financial problems straightened out, but you really should try going back and reading through that thread before getting your panties in a bunch.

Still, IMO, unless that money is truly disposable you should spend that money on your home and family, NOT on an HT setup. Before you say so, buying a TV is NOT spending money on your family.

Since you felt the need to explain yourself and feelings allow me to do the same.



Im sorry but it gets a little old when you have the life rug pulled out from underneath you and you get shoved in a corner where your having trouble trying to get out, all the people that are set up to help you wont or if they do its set up so that you can never get out. You dont ask for help (I never have) and people find out about your situation and alot of people come out from no where to help. You become obligated at that point to make your life story public so you dont come off as a lyer/troll because people you dont know wanting to help would feel better about themselves knowing that they are helping someone trully, at the time, in need of help. But instead to have asshats all the time for the last 4 years try to discredit you because thier lives suck or have nothing better to do but kick a wounded horse when hes down even further.

Since being hurt I have lost everything. I went from a 6 bedroom 2 bath house to a sh!t hole 2 bedroom trailer near Gary Indiana because my job decided to go under new management forcing us to do a major downsize and fired everyone. I got laid off of atleast 4 other jobs after that till I got my last one and started to see the light to become perminaty disabled, work screwing me, workers comp screwing me by not paying me, not getting the help and medical attenetion I desperatly needed.

I had to sell off everything I owned to pay the bills, my wife couldnt find a job, welfair took my wife and I off insurance because of a technacality(SP), I went through paxil withdrawls, people came to our aide, at that time, which if they hadnt we would of been homeless. Workers comp was shoving it deep up may A$$ because worker comp laws in Indiana are set up for the employer not the employee. Then We fall in hard times again during christmas 03, my stuff isnt selling, I was 2 months late on my cable bill and several on the others, people started being asshats saying you can aford internet but didnt understand I wasnt paying the bills. I couldnt afford food at the time (because again my welfair case worker kicked us off) let alone any christmas presents for my childreen and the the asshats come out of the wood work trying to discredit me because I had some pictures posted of me on the internet with my family on the floor saying "OH your so hurt and you can do this and that" when it was put up before I was injured and stuck it on the net so my biological father who lives a hour away from me could see me and my boys because I wasnt there with him for over 18 years of my life and was, and still am, trying to make a relationship with someone I dont know.

At this point I was contacted by some people who were going to help us get out of our hole by setting up an account, getting us a better car, even talk of a home, getting us food, basicaly get us back on our feet till my stuff with the lawyers, welfair, and workers comp got taken care of and more asshats jumped the lets fvck this poor guys life up more and find more crap on him and twist it bandwagon putting doubt in thier minds and backed out. I had people come to my house and see first hand our situation but no one wanted to hear that just the bad. Found stuff like when I buying broken crap to fix not keep so that I can make a few extra bucks since my stuff wasnt selling, more pics of me before I was hurt. Trading my stuff that isnt selling for other stuff that would sell. I would tell people the truth and I get told its excusses and shut up and if I keept my mouth shut it fueled thier fire trying to discredit me because I dint give an answer.

2 years ago when all that happend I lost all help that was to help us. We were given a little bit of food, the lttle money that did come my way that I HAD never asked for was enough to keep the heat and lights on that month, lost my internet so what little I had left I was selling I could no longer sell (check my heat and see the 6 month gap), my childreen got NO CHRISTMAS at all, GOT NO CHRISTMAS dinner, and when people start bringing this old crap up when ever I to do something or ask a question the asshats come back out trying to discredit me and I am supposed to forget the hell and emmotional bull crap that my wife, childreen, and I had to indure.

It was great watching my childreens faces when the tree was lit and there wanst sh!t under it from thier parrents. The fact that they didnt get the traditional dinner they should have gotten. The crap we had to eat durring that time with no snacks for the kids. For alot of the younger kids going "so what that you didnt" become a parent and your kids are saying they are hungy and you have nothing for them to munch on between the little crappy meals they do get. Or have grown up your entire life as a child like that knowing first hand how it felt as well. Its gut wrenching when your 3 year old doesnt understand why he is hungy and his parent wont feed him because they have nothing to feed him. Or your 11 year old is crying because before I got hurt I told him once we could afford it I would take him bowling and now that we sorta can but physicaly cannot anymore and he brings up the promise I made to him. Having him cry because I cant do anything with him. My wife takes them out and most of the time I have to stay home because where they are going I would becomne a burden on them. I mean really who wants to push the fat a$$ or be near him as he gets the stares from people going around walmart in his fat a$$ wheelchair. I try to push myself for as long as I can till my hands turn red, start to pull the skin off, start to bleed, and hurt before I ask my wife to push me. Which at that point looks strange and uncompfortable for her because she gets stared at pushing my huge fat a$$ around. Or how about my youngest who doesnt understand why daddy wont get on the floor and play with him and I start cying because he keeps asking me to be the good guy bad guy, play with his blocks on the floor and I have to tell him no. ANYONE here know what that really does to you to have to tell your child you cant play with him???? I DO and I am crying as I write this because it kills me inside know that he doesnt understand it but rather thinks his father wants nothing to do with him and I get asked everyday. Then to have your 4 year old when you start crying tell you its ok dadda its ok. And yet I am not supposed to go off when peeople start talking sh!t about me or to me. I wouldnt wish my worst enemy the hell, pain, emotional bull sh!t I and my family have gone through or will continue to go through. My back is decinegrating and untill it does so I cant get insurance or go on SSI. I sit here and look forward to my wife having to wipe my a$$ like I am a child because I wont be able to. And the hell she will further be put through till I die which should be to long of a weight since coming down with high cholosterol, diabeties type 2, and extreame high blood pressure (180/110). Not being able to excersize or eat right to lessent the time my family will have to be put through hell. I am happy I got the house and everything is taken care of so she wont loose any of it when that time comes.

But anyway now my wife is working and were just barely making enough to pay the bills, I been sitting in the damn chair for the last 4 year being able to do nothing more then watch tv or go on the computer. I cant play with my boys ever again, I cant take my boys to the park, the amusment park, swimming pool, shoping, bowling, teach my youngest how to play sports, PICK THEM UP IN THE AIR OVER MY HEAD (kills me when my youngest son looks at me and asks me to pick him up and hold him when I can barly hold myself up), I had the life rug pulled right out from underneith me. Workerscomp could take care of my back because I was going through court, welfair wouldnt look at my back because its a workers comp case, I in no way could pay for it myself and because of it I have gotten worse and am going to get worse for the rest of my life. I cant do sh!t around the house to help my wife,l and yet if I do anything, buy anything, ask a question, or want to do something for myself for once because of all the hell I am put through people find it thier job to say you dont need that or dont see why I would want something for me or my family. They way I look at it if I want to spend $2000 on a tv WHY THE HELL NOT? I cant do anything else to spend money on so the price of the tv is small compaire to what I could of been buying or doing with it if I could get around. But people dont see this before they decide to discredit me. In thier perfect world everyone is rich or can take care of themselves, if it ever happened to them nothing would ever change so why should that be any different for anyone else. And its funny how I get this all the time and when I flip out its like dude chill out its no big deal whats your problem. Well I hope you took the time to read and see why to me it is a big deal and a huge problem.

So now that my lawsuit is finnaly over and instead of using the money to try to get my back fixed, go through the barratics to get my stomach taken out, I decided to use the money and buy my family a real house, a real non rusted out billion mile van, I am buying my wife and childreen what ever in the hell they want, and for me a fvcking tv and some better computer parts because I feel that the 5 years that since my wife and I have been marring NOTHING has ever gone right and we fvcking deserve it all. I have made it with the house and having no car note, no morgage, paid all that has helped us back that didnt have the means to do so but did it anyway to keepus from being homeless, so that we can live well and not cost us even near $800 a month which is about $600 less then what we have now in this crappy hell hole. I am in the works as we speek trying to start an at home employment so that this will never happen again, my wife wont have to work, and I can make something of myself. All the stuff that was going to happen 2 years ago that someone was going to help us do but because of ingnorant people we lost that and alot more. Why I decided to do this is because I been told that even if I went through the operation I would need several more suring my lifetime that no having insurance or being able to afford me any would still screw me up. The money i used on doing that would still have to keep us in this house and all the money would of gone towards somethign that would cost me more in the long run and there was a higher chance that it wouldnt of helped or made me worse off then what I am right now. So using the money for that I felt wouldnt help out our situation in the longer run. Besides that when my back really gets worse to the point I cant walk or take care of myselfe anymore I would qualify for SSI and get the insurance at that point paid for I would need. Right now its spend the money on my back on a "IF" with a chance I can be worse off and broke because I spent it all trying to get better or do what I decided to do which was buy my family a house, a car, a at home job, a better life and wait and wait for my back to full go out and then get insurance and operations to correct it.

So please before you go judging me PM me ask me anything you want. I feel that since Anandtech members came to our aid more then anyone your intitled to know what is going on in my life but dont go trying to discredit me without knowing the entire truth and then expect me not to get bent out of shape when you do.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: funboy42
...wont cost me an arm and a leg or die out quickly.

I am leaning towards a crt hdtv because there is no bulb to change. If I am going with a DLP I would rather it be a projector on a huge screen. I been looking and getting confuised and I need some of you to show me what you would reccomend and how long a bulb costs and lasts.

The tv will be used for over 12 hours per day so if I go DLP I need the pic to be good but a bulb thats not going to give 2000 hours and cost me $500 per pop. Hence why I will lean towards a crt 65". But have always wanted 100"+ pictures my entire life and since I cant do much more then computer and tv I may as well go all out provided I wont get nickle and dimed to death on each bulb. It will be used for HT viewing and computer as well since I may turn my current rig into a HT set up.

SO show me your thoughts and cost per bulb and a link would help giving me something to ponder 😀 Thanks and cannot wait to see what some of come up with!


Would this be a good buy? Comes with a 100" screen and another lamp. Bulbs for this one are $261 and supposed to last 5000 hours

CRTs are even worse with that kind of use. Given that 5" to 9" little CRTs have to give off enough light to light a 65"+ screen, they burn extremely hot, so phospher wear and tear and image burn is a problem, even in RPTVs. This is why you can't/shouldn't play games on any kind of projection system (front or rear) unless it's LCD or DLP.

Instead of replacing 1 $300 bulb youll have to replace 3 $500+ CRT units (thought they last longer if you don't abuse the brightness/contrast)... The blue is usually the first to show phospher burn and reduced light output.

You really don't want to use your computer on a CRT based unit of any kind given the static desktop, start menu, etc... so regardless of front or rear projection, you'd be best served with DLP or LCD.

 

[exdeath]

I decided on a Sanyo PLV-Z3 after extensive research. I chose LCD over DLP for because the advantages of LCD over DLP are suited to gaming, namely sharper image and color saturation. Basically go LCD for gaming, and DLP for movies.

This is a 1280 x 720p 2000:1 contrast LCD projector with the new dynamic iris for contrast control. I chose this model over others like the Panasonic 700 because of the reviews on how perfect and clean the LCD panels are (absolutely pixel perfect uniformity with no banding, streaking, etc) and sure enough thats what I got. The Panasonic 700 I looked at in a store had a fuzzier image (due to processing to hide screen door effect) and vertical banding.

First the projector, on bare wall with composite (when it first arrived)

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http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/3.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/5.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/6.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/t2.jpg

Now permenant wall mounted screen 56" x 96" 16:9 106" DaMat 1.0 gain screen with component from a PS2. Projector on low light high contrast mode from 11 feet away. It looks nearly high def in person:

http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/nemo1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/nemo2.jpg

Note: looks better in person, it's hard to get a decent picture in the dark with a CMOS camera without a flash without the contrast being crushed or the image being over exposed due to longer shutter delay.

No gaming pics yet. I've tried but due to the slow shutter speed needed to get good pics, the movement in the game graphics blurs the image. Rest assured it's mind blowing playing Metroid Prime. The 4:3 image is ~87" when proper aspect ratio is maintained. In "through" mode with no scaling I get 1:1 pixel mapping via component and you can see every pixel and every scanline as if playing a game on PC. The intro video to FF X2 looks high def (esp the close up of Riku, you can see every crack in her lips shining with lip gloss and see the stray hairs in her braids!) and you can see the "anti aliasing" they use on the PS2 where they use dual CRTC read and blend circuits with one at 70% and the other at 30% blended together with the 30% intensity image shifted down exactly 1 scanline. I've used this myself, and it looks great on an interlaced NTSC TV but unfortuneately it is annoying on a high resolution display.

I've just installed the screen and the component/HDMI wall plate box. I will be ceiling mounting the projector and routing cables this week.

Projector: $1500
Screen: $500
25' component cable: $100
HDMI/Component wall plate: $70

Also factor "hidden" costs for window treatment (tint, shutters, whatever you need), installing a power outlet in the crawl space above the ceiling, etc.

 

[codeyf]

I <3 my $850, 40", 306lb, Sony Wega XBR.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: codeyf
I <3 my $850, 40", 306lb, Sony Wega XBR.

Yeah those were nice. It's a shame Sony stopped making them 🙁

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: exdeath
I decided on a Sanyo PLV-Z3 after extensive research. I chose LCD over DLP for because the advantages of LCD over DLP are suited to gaming, namely sharper image and color saturation. Basically go LCD for gaming, and DLP for movies.

This is a 1280 x 720p 2000:1 contrast LCD projector with the new dynamic iris for contrast control. I chose this model over others like the Panasonic 700 because of the reviews on how perfect and clean the LCD panels are (absolutely pixel perfect uniformity with no banding, streaking, etc) and sure enough thats what I got. The Panasonic 700 I looked at in a store had a fuzzier image (due to processing to hide screen door effect) and vertical banding.

First the projector, on bare wall with composite (when it first arrived)

http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/3.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/5.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/6.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/t2.jpg

Now permenant wall mounted screen 56" x 96" 16:9 106" DaMat 1.0 gain screen with component from a PS2. Projector on low light high contrast mode from 11 feet away. It looks nearly high def in person:

http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/nemo1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/csbaker-az/nemo2.jpg

Note: looks better in person, it's hard to get a decent picture in the dark with a CMOS camera without a flash without the contrast being crushed or the image being over exposed due to longer shutter delay.

No gaming pics yet. I've tried but due to the slow shutter speed needed to get good pics, the movement in the game graphics blurs the image. Rest assured it's mind blowing playing Metroid Prime. The 4:3 image is ~87" when proper aspect ratio is maintained. In "through" mode with no scaling I get 1:1 pixel mapping via component and you can see every pixel and every scanline as if playing a game on PC. The intro video to FF X2 looks high def (esp the close up of Riku, you can see every crack in her lips shining with lip gloss and see the stray hairs in her braids!) and you can see the "anti aliasing" they use on the PS2 where they use dual CRTC read and blend circuits with one at 70% and the other at 30% blended together with the 30% intensity image shifted down exactly 1 scanline. I've used this myself, and it looks great on an interlaced NTSC TV but unfortuneately it is annoying on a high resolution display.

I've just installed the screen and the component/HDMI wall plate box. I will be ceiling mounting the projector and routing cables this week.

Projector: $1500
Screen: $500
25' component cable: $100
HDMI/Component wall plate: $70

Also factor "hidden" costs for window treatment (tint, shutters, whatever you need), installing a power outlet in the crawl space above the ceiling, etc.

Whoa... you can get a quality 25' component cable for like $25.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Whoa... you can get a quality 25' component cable for like $25.

Where can you get them for $25? This is high res 1920x1080p bandwidth 3 x 75 ohm shielded coax broadcast grade cable? The cheap ones I've seen are just flimsy composite RCA A/V cables with different color tips and not suited for the upper limits of high def. Normally I could care less, but the distance is unusually long for a analog video signal.

I got my cable for $50, I just threw out a $100 figure to allow some variance in cable choice since I've seen long component cable runs from anywhere from $50 to $200; DVI/HDMI even more (and no not monster lol).

I know I paid way too much for the wall jack but I couldn't find them anywhere else but dvigear.com (HDMI + component + s-video wall plate)

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Whoa... you can get a quality 25' component cable for like $25.

Where can you get them for $25? This is high res 1920x1080p bandwidth 3 x 75 ohm shielded coax broadcast grade cable? The cheap ones I've seen are just flimsy composite RCA A/V cables with different color tips and not suited for the upper limits of high def. Normally I could care less, but the distance is unusually long for a analog video signal.

I got my cable for $50, I just threw out a $100 figure to allow some variance in cable choice since I've seen long component cable runs from anywhere from $50 to $200; DVI/HDMI even more (and no not monster lol).

I know I paid way too much for the wall jack but I couldn't find them anywhere else but dvigear.com (HDMI + component + s-video wall plate)

Got mine from cablesforless

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Whoa... you can get a quality 25' component cable for like $25.

Where can you get them for $25? This is high res 1920x1080p bandwidth 3 x 75 ohm shielded coax broadcast grade cable? The cheap ones I've seen are just flimsy composite RCA A/V cables with different color tips and not suited for the upper limits of high def. Normally I could care less, but the distance is unusually long for a analog video signal.

I got my cable for $50, I just threw out a $100 figure to allow some variance in cable choice since I've seen long component cable runs from anywhere from $50 to $200; DVI/HDMI even more (and no not monster lol).

I know I paid way too much for the wall jack but I couldn't find them anywhere else but dvigear.com (HDMI + component + s-video wall plate)

I bought this one and it works very well.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Whoa... you can get a quality 25' component cable for like $25.

Where can you get them for $25? This is high res 1920x1080p bandwidth 3 x 75 ohm shielded coax broadcast grade cable? The cheap ones I've seen are just flimsy composite RCA A/V cables with different color tips and not suited for the upper limits of high def. Normally I could care less, but the distance is unusually long for a analog video signal.

I got my cable for $50, I just threw out a $100 figure to allow some variance in cable choice since I've seen long component cable runs from anywhere from $50 to $200; DVI/HDMI even more (and no not monster lol).

I know I paid way too much for the wall jack but I couldn't find them anywhere else but dvigear.com (HDMI + component + s-video wall plate)

I bought this one and it works very well.

That looks exactly like my python cables... is that what it is?

Here's more specs

http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=254-525IV

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Whoa... you can get a quality 25' component cable for like $25.

Where can you get them for $25? This is high res 1920x1080p bandwidth 3 x 75 ohm shielded coax broadcast grade cable? The cheap ones I've seen are just flimsy composite RCA A/V cables with different color tips and not suited for the upper limits of high def. Normally I could care less, but the distance is unusually long for a analog video signal.

I got my cable for $50, I just threw out a $100 figure to allow some variance in cable choice since I've seen long component cable runs from anywhere from $50 to $200; DVI/HDMI even more (and no not monster lol).

I know I paid way too much for the wall jack but I couldn't find them anywhere else but dvigear.com (HDMI + component + s-video wall plate)

I bought this one and it works very well.

That looks exactly like my python cables... is that what it is?

Here's more specs

http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=254-525IV

The outside sheath looks exactly the same. It's a pretty stout cable too so it's probably the same one.

 

[whoiswes]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: Zombie
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[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Whoa... you can get a quality 25' component cable for like $25.

Where can you get them for $25? This is high res 1920x1080p bandwidth 3 x 75 ohm shielded coax broadcast grade cable? The cheap ones I've seen are just flimsy composite RCA A/V cables with different color tips and not suited for the upper limits of high def. Normally I could care less, but the distance is unusually long for a analog video signal.

I got my cable for $50, I just threw out a $100 figure to allow some variance in cable choice since I've seen long component cable runs from anywhere from $50 to $200; DVI/HDMI even more (and no not monster lol).

I know I paid way too much for the wall jack but I couldn't find them anywhere else but dvigear.com (HDMI + component + s-video wall plate)

I bought this one and it works very well.

That looks exactly like my python cables... is that what it is?

Here's more specs

http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=254-525IV

The outside sheath looks exactly the same. It's a pretty stout cable too so it's probably the same one.

Yeah, I was really surprised how heavy the cables were.

I'm using a 50 foot to my projector, a 12 foot from computer to receiver, and a 3 foot from DVD player to receiver. (all for like $65 shipped 😀)