NK Army Minister Executed by Mortar

[Anonemous]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...army-minister-executed-with-mortar-round.html

Gangnam style!

Talk bad about the great leader, that's a mortaring.

Kim Chol, vice minister of the army, was taken into custody earlier this year on the orders of Kim
Jong-un, who assumed the leadership after the death of his father in December.
On the orders of Kim Jong-un to leave "no trace of him behind, down to his hair," according to South Korean media, Kim Chol was forced to stand on a spot that had been zeroed in for a mortar round and "obliterated."
The execution of Kim Chol is just one example of a purge of members of the North Korean military or party who threatened the fledgling regime of Kim Jong-un.
So far this year, 14 senior officials have fallen victim to the purges, according to intelligence data. Those that have fallen from favour include Ri Yong-ho, the head of the army and Ri Kwang-gon, the governor of the North Korean central bank.
Analysts suggest that Mr Kim, who took over as head of state after the death of his father late last year, is acting to consolidate his own power base and deter any criticism of his youthfulness and inexperience. Mr Kim is believed to be either 28 or 29.
"When Kim Jong-un became North Korean leader following the mourning period for his father in late December, high-ranking military officers started disappearing," a source told the Chosun Ilbo newspaper. "From information compiled over the last month, we have concluded that dozens of military officers were purged."
It also appears that Mr Kim ordered his loyal officials to use the excuse of misbehaviour during the mourning period for his father to remove any potential opponents.
Other officials have been executed by firing squads, including Ryu Kyong, a senior intelligence expert.
Since being elevated to second-in-command of the nation by his father in September 2010, Kim has reportedly been behind the dismissal of at least 31 senior officials.

 

[Jaskalas]

Don't you wish you lived in a country like that?

 

[The Boston Dangler]

surely the complete failure of that state isn't far off now. we need to keep a tough military deterrent and watch them destroy themselves. then there will be a unified, free korea to help us keep the chinese in place.

 

[lxskllr]

He must study American corporate procedure. Get rid of everyone who knows what they're doing, and bring in new people.

 

[uhohs]

heh, I remember when people were hoping/dreaming that he would be a halfway decent human being unlike his father.

 

[brianmanahan]

what do you suppose would happen if that dude died before he had any kids? would there be any hope for NK?

my guess is that everyone under him would vie for the top in a bloody war. if it got bad enough, the UN would eventually step in and try to set things straight there.

but i dont give that much of a chance of happening. pretty sure that in 50 years, NK will still be the joke that it is now. a modern country run like its in the freakin dark ages.

 

[brianmanahan]

(also this belongs in P&N)

 

[Pocatello]

Everybody knows North Korea is best Korea!

 

[jagec]

Don't you wish you lived in a country like that?

KEEP VOTING FOR <Party I hate> AND IT'LL HAPPEN!!!

 

[The Boston Dangler]

(also this belongs in P&N)

this is news (OT), not bullshit (P&N)

 

[Baked]

Death by mortar... that's a new one.

 

[Gibsons]

He's just ronery.

 

[Ricochet]

heh, I remember when people were hoping/dreaming that he would be a halfway decent human being unlike his father.

So sad to see kids lamenting their fate. The shit hole that is NK has got to be close to hell on earth.

 

[slayer202]

our "economy" is much more important

 

[jagec]

So sad to see kids lamenting their fate. The shit hole that is NK has got to be close to hell on earth.

They look so sad, and he looks so happy, that the only conclusion that I can come to is that he's taking them to the kitchen so that he can eat them.

 

[destrekor]

heh, I remember when people were hoping/dreaming that he would be a halfway decent human being unlike his father.

While it's unlikely he will really bring about any of the true changes the world would love to see, it's also possible this is just the methods he's using to clear the old leadership that would cling to the old ways. Once fresh/loyal blood is at all levels of command, he would have a better chance to make more sweeping changes. A lot of the older regime would probably have him killed for even thinking of changing all that much; if he has loyal followers who are more prepared to follow his lead than risk their own necks to squash the idea of change, we could see a very different NK under his leadership in a few years.

Hell, it's also possible he doesn't even know how these people were dispatched. He could have been told "they'll disappear, they'll be exiled" and that's all he knew or perhaps even cared to know. Some of these things are details the top-most leader very likely wouldn't know, or even the number two or number three; i.e. #3 would be in charge of, among other things, persons who take care of dirty details, and that group of said persons has an overall leader who directly interfaces with #3. So, #3 says "Make these people disappear, however you see fit" and #3-1 understands that either murder or exile out of country are the two options. Old die-hard bastards typically require Option 1 (Murder) simply to minimize risk of issues down the road from said bastard.


More likely than anything, Dear Leader knew enough details.. and aside from putting on a happier face for the world, and maybe sharing just a teeny bit more info from the inside, has no plans to bring about any sweeping reforms for his people.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

boom

 

[Udgnim]

well that senior leadership certainly regrets not attempting a coup

 

[sdifox]

surely the complete failure of that state isn't far off now. we need to keep a tough military deterrent and watch them destroy themselves. then there will be a unified, free korea to help us keep the chinese in place.

Lulz, you think South Korea wants unification? They have their own debt problem, they don't need the bottomless pit that is North Korea.

 

[Triumph]

our "economy" is much more important

you think what happens within the borders of some useless isolationist country is more important than how things are going here at home?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

surely the complete failure of that state isn't far off now. we need to keep a tough military deterrent and watch them destroy themselves. then there will be a unified, free korea to help us keep the chinese in place.

Eh? This guys no Stalin and Stalin's purges didn't end up causing failure (came close a couple of times (like WW2)). It's probably weakening his state, but it's a bit early to call it imminent failure.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Lies! Lies!

"The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a genuine workers' state in which all the people are completely liberated from exploitation and oppression. The workers, peasants, soldiers and intellectuals are the true masters of their destiny and are in a unique position to defend their interests."

Sounds like paradise, doesn't it?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

heh, I remember when people were hoping/dreaming that he would be a halfway decent human being unlike his father.

The girl second to the left of Kim in this picture appears to be smiling. Very unfortunate indeed -- I'm sure a mortar will be coming down her chimney this Christmas, not Santa Kim.

 

[Doppel]

While it's unlikely he will really bring about any of the true changes the world would love to see, it's also possible this is just the methods he's using to clear the old leadership that would cling to the old ways. Once fresh/loyal blood is at all levels of command, he would have a better chance to make more sweeping changes. A lot of the older regime would probably have him killed for even thinking of changing all that much; if he has loyal followers who are more prepared to follow his lead than risk their own necks to squash the idea of change, we could see a very different NK under his leadership in a few years.

Hell, it's also possible he doesn't even know how these people were dispatched. He could have been told "they'll disappear, they'll be exiled" and that's all he knew or perhaps even cared to know. Some of these things are details the top-most leader very likely wouldn't know, or even the number two or number three; i.e. #3 would be in charge of, among other things, persons who take care of dirty details, and that group of said persons has an overall leader who directly interfaces with #3. So, #3 says "Make these people disappear, however you see fit" and #3-1 understands that either murder or exile out of country are the two options. Old die-hard bastards typically require Option 1 (Murder) simply to minimize risk of issues down the road from said bastard.


More likely than anything, Dear Leader knew enough details.. and aside from putting on a happier face for the world, and maybe sharing just a teeny bit more info from the inside, has no plans to bring about any sweeping reforms for his people.

This is an interesting idea. Do I understand it right? You are saying maybe he really still could be a half way decent guy but if he tries to be the old guard will say heck no, so he needs to remove them first and things like mortaring them to death (psycho alert) is the only ways that he can then be the great guy we all know he can be?

 

[destrekor]

This is an interesting idea. Do I understand it right? You are saying maybe he really still could be a half way decent guy but if he tries to be the old guard will say heck no, so he needs to remove them first and things like mortaring them to death (psycho alert) is the only ways that he can then be the great guy we all know he can be?

Not quite like that, but... sorta.

The entire government of NK is literally the definition of psycho (by our standards).

It really is a very different world over there. They run an old-school powerful kingdom-style government, and try their damnedest to lock up their little micro-world from the world at large, leaving only the top leadership to see and interact with everyone else.

Their intra-system politics and scheming ways are going to resemble that which they have always known. Those things used to always be messy business, some would say the developed world has become very soft and too politically correct. NK simply adheres to a more old-school ideology (in some fashion, quite akin to strict adherents to the Islamic Sharia Law methods). We shun it, as it is morally wrong and offensive to what we have grown up with today... I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but it's difficult to truly paint an accurate profile when you only compare to what we know of first-world modern politics and governments.

The fact that NK's current regime feels it must dispose of the old regime's top leaders should be a quite telling fact. And frankly, while I am not entirely sold on the concept that this means NK will become a garden paradise of a State, it should be quite telling that the die-hards of the old regime (do remember what these men stood for) must be killed - I cannot imagine the son is planning on turning things into an even more barbaric and hellish place... those old-regime members would have probably fist-pumped with gleeful abandon if the new regime proposed such a move.