NJ codifies a woman's right to choose

[MrSquished]

Legislation was signed by the governor making a woman's right to choose the law in the state. It also expanded how much contraception private insurance and Medicaid must cover. Another very sane policy.

I enjoy living in a non regressive state that respects the rights of women and better healthcare.

Amen.

 

[ivwshane]

Sadly this will probably be the only way forward to bring about change this country needs. The states will have to go it alone if they want to help their residents.

Universal Health care should be next.

 

[nickqt]

Democrats Should Weaponize Federalism

If Democrats truly believe in the power of their policies, they should be ready to weaponize federalism.

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I'll continue to post this anywhere it is relevant.

 

[dank69]

Sadly this will probably be the only way forward to bring about change this country needs. The states will have to go it alone if they want to help their residents.

Universal Health care should be next.

UHC I think would require a large coalition of states to have a chance of being successful.

 

[ivwshane]

UHC I think would require a large coalition of states to have a chance of being successful.

I think California could pull it off.

 

[dank69]

I think California could pull it off.

5th largest economy in the world? Yeah you're probably right.

 

[nOOky]

Democrats Should Weaponize Federalism

If Democrats truly believe in the power of their policies, they should be ready to weaponize federalism.

www.politicalorphans.com

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States that allow abortion etc. should deny services to residents of states that ban it. Maybe people would then remember why legal and safe abortions are allowed versus back alley coathangerings. But at least it would only happen in shitty red states, who cares about them, they get what they vote for.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I think California could pull it off.

Didn't CA start its own state health insurance program?

In any even, to @dank69's suggestion, get all the CARB states in on it as well.

Want clean air and healthcare? We got you.

 

[feralkid]

States that allow abortion etc. should deny services to residents of states that ban it. Maybe people would then remember why legal and safe abortions are allowed versus back alley coathangerings. But at least it would only happen in shitty red states, who cares about them, they get what they vote for.

Not every one in "Red States" votes Red.

Let's be careful not to fuck over the minority.

 

[nOOky]

Not every one in "Red States" votes Red.

Let's be careful not to fuck over the minority.

Don't care, move then. Sounds awfully Republican doesn't it?

 

[Sunburn74]

Not every one in "Red States" votes Red.

Let's be careful not to fuck over the minority.

The reality is that in most red states there are more Dems that republicans. Dems just don't vote. So yeah you get what you vote for.

 

[hal2kilo]

The reality is that in most red states there are more Dems that republicans. Dems just don't vote. So yeah you get what you vote for.

Sure. Maybe, the ones who votes for Dems, have special emphasis on how they get to vote in the south? Maybe? Just maybe?

 

[Jaskalas]

Universal Health care should be next.

I still think starting with Healthcare is backwards. However pressing the need, a Basic Income and Housing program would more... readily present itself as a benefit. A taste of what can be achieved, why "insurance" works, and why government "handouts" are not evil incarnate as Republicans would lead you to believe. Food and a Roof, people understand that. Granted, access to Healthcare is a need that is barely fulfilled at all, while the other two are somewhat covered through much pain and suffering. Which is the most pressing need, a difficult question to answer. But strategically, UBI direct payment wets the pallet for more complex investments.

Secondly, not having the US currency to back these plans, to provide the necessary loans to ensure program viability and long term stability.... State programs would REALLY be hurting without that shield to cover for them. Large scale insurance is best done through a currency, and not individual balance sheets that can run empty. They need a guarantee in good times and bad.

 

[ivwshane]

I still think starting with Healthcare is backwards. However pressing the need, a Basic Income and Housing program would more... readily present itself as a benefit. A taste of what can be achieved, why "insurance" works, and why government "handouts" are not evil incarnate as Republicans would lead you to believe. Food and a Roof, people understand that. Granted, access to Healthcare is a need that is barely fulfilled at all, while the other two are somewhat covered through much pain and suffering. Which is the most pressing need, a difficult question to answer. But strategically, UBI direct payment wets the pallet for more complex investments.

Secondly, not having the US currency to back these plans, to provide the necessary loans to ensure program viability and long term stability.... State programs would REALLY be hurting without that shield to cover for them. Large scale insurance is best done through a currency, and not individual balance sheets that can run empty. They need a guarantee in good times and bad.

Basic income is still in trial and it wouldn’t be wise to roll it out yet until it’s fully researched.

Homelessness is something the state can definitely handle as there have been several cities who have completely eliminated homelessness and now we have a template for what works. That is not something that needs to be done first before health care though.

 

[Aikouka]

One thing that I think we really need to have revised is the Hobby Lobby contraception decision. If you're a business that is not explicitly focused on religion (church, ministry, etc.), then you should not have the right to push your religious values upon others.

The reality is that in most red states there are more Dems that republicans. Dems just don't vote. So yeah you get what you vote for.

You sure about that? As a registered Democrat, I'm pretty sure that I'm a minority in Alabama. Now, it is worth noting that we aren't that small of a minority as Biden won 36.5% of the state, and ~45% of my county.

 

[Mai72]

Legislation was signed by the governor making a woman's right to choose the law in the state. It also expanded how much contraception private insurance and Medicaid must cover. Another very sane policy.

I enjoy living in a non regressive state that respects the rights of women and better healthcare.

Amen.

I live in NJ as well. Now imagine if Murphy didn't win reelection? Many people here in south jersey are devout Republicans. They hate Murphy.

 

[MrSquished]

I live in NJ as well. Now imagine if Murphy didn't win reelection? Many people here in south jersey are devout Republicans. They hate Murphy.

Dunno how Murphy feels, but I and other Democrats hate them. Fuck those people.

 

[Pohemi]

One thing that I think we really need to have revised is the Hobby Lobby contraception decision. If you're a business that is not explicitly focused on religion (church, ministry, etc.), then you should not have the right to push your religious values upon others.

Why do you believe that religious organizations and churches should retain this ability? In my opinion, it should be stated as:

"If you're a business OR religious organization, then you should not have the right to push your religious values upon others."

Conservatives continue to fight for the further erosion of separation of church and state, as they have for decades. Their faux moral superiority tells them they should be able to tell everyone else how to live based on their bible that they don't live by themselves.

 

[nickqt]

States that allow abortion etc. should deny services to residents of states that ban it. Maybe people would then remember why legal and safe abortions are allowed versus back alley coathangerings. But at least it would only happen in shitty red states, who cares about them, they get what they vote for.

Part of the argument is that yes, Red States should get the policies that their politicians are constantly voting for. And I'm someone living in a Blue City in a Purple State, so I'd be right in the line of fire.

There's countless arguments for why we should fight to help everyone, but it's time for Red States and Blue States to get exactly what they vote for. It allows Arkansas to crucify abortion providers on street posts and for Colorado to legalize all drugs. If people don't like it, get the fuck out and vote, move, or tough shit, blame the framers of the Constitution.

What we have now is the worst of both systems. Republican fascists who are perfectly fine operating in a Death Cult are happy to destroy everything if it means the oligarchs can buy it all up. And Democrats, ever fighting to just stop or slow the Republicans, enable Republican voters to continue voting for a Death Cult trying to destroy everything since they never feel the full effects.

 

[Jaskalas]

That is not something that needs to be done first before health care though.

The crux of the Republican hold over people is scaring them that BIG BAD Government is taxing and taking and stealing from "you".
To provide what? NOTHING. Taking it all and giving it to OTHER people.
Healthcare is highly susceptible to such BS. It is not something Americans natively appreciate until they get sick.

You are banking on a subset of the population that I fear is not large enough. But the margin of victory in elections can be small. I just think those who can appreciate Healthcare coverage already vote Democrat. Those whose lives could be improved by UBI and Housing are a lot more, and many of them vote Republican. And a home loan fueled by UBI is not comparable to anything that exists today. It would flat out pay for McMansions in Alabama. The scale of the idea may be beyond what you have imagined. Between the monthly payments, and a nest egg when people turn 18, $600,000 homes would be within reach. That and everything below, automatically paid for. No risk of losing it for financial reasons.

That is a direct return on investment, something people can understand and appreciate. Before we move onto a complex topic, such as insurance. That which you do not need today, but will one day. By and large, our opponents are too stupid to appreciate that they WILL eventually get sick. But they could appreciate direct payments and being freed from the shackles of slave wages. It is a shattering of the idea that no one cares for the working class, derived from the destitution and poverty wrought by the Reagan Revolution.

We must dream big if we are to reach hearts and minds. If we have but one shot to enact change, let it be revolutionary. That we may gain favor and continue to press forward.

 

[ivwshane]

The crux of the Republican hold over people is scaring them that BIG BAD Government is taxing and taking and stealing from "you".
To provide what? NOTHING. Taking it all and giving it to OTHER people.
Healthcare is highly susceptible to such BS. It is not something Americans natively appreciate until they get sick.

You are banking on a subset of the population that I fear is not large enough. But the margin of victory in elections can be small. I just think those who can appreciate Healthcare coverage already vote Democrat. Those whose lives could be improved by UBI and Housing are a lot more, and many of them vote Republican. And a home loan fueled by UBI is not comparable to anything that exists today. It would flat out pay for McMansions in Alabama. The scale of the idea may be beyond what you have imagined. Between the monthly payments, and a nest egg when people turn 18, $600,000 homes would be within reach. That and everything below, automatically paid for. No risk of losing it for financial reasons.

That is a direct return on investment, something people can understand and appreciate. Before we move onto a complex topic, such as insurance. That which you do not need today, but will one day. By and large, our opponents are too stupid to appreciate that they WILL eventually get sick. But they could appreciate direct payments and being freed from the shackles of slave wages. It is a shattering of the idea that no one cares for the working class, derived from the destitution and poverty wrought by the Reagan Revolution.

We must dream big if we are to reach hearts and minds. If we have but one shot to enact change, let it be revolutionary. That we may gain favor and continue to press forward.

You are being logically inconsistent. Providing UBI is in fact taking money from the people and redistributing it. It would be an even harder sell because people are already ingrained with the idea that poor people are lazy and don’t deserve any handouts let alone a monthly income with no strings attached.

People understand that health care is expensive and getting more expensive, people understand all the red tape people have to go through for what should be basic care. Our health care system sucks for almost everyone except the super rich. Universal health care would be an easy sell in California which is why Bernie destroyed Biden in the California primaries. If getting universal health care requires more taxes, Californians are likely to vote to raise their taxes as they have done in the past.

 

[soulcougher73]

Democrats Should Weaponize Federalism

If Democrats truly believe in the power of their policies, they should be ready to weaponize federalism.

www.politicalorphans.com

I'll continue to post this anywhere it is relevant.

I like this. Let them wallow in their fithy views until they realize it's filth they have to deal with. Plus it really hits home with the whole states rights crap they love.

 

[Aikouka]

Why do you believe that religious organizations and churches should retain this ability? In my opinion, it should be stated as:

"If you're a business OR religious organization, then you should not have the right to push your religious values upon others."

Conservatives continue to fight for the further erosion of separation of church and state, as they have for decades. Their faux moral superiority tells them they should be able to tell everyone else how to live based on their bible that they don't live by themselves.

My approach is to try to look at this from a point at which it could be argued legally. I don't understand how the defense could ever be applied to Hobby Lobby outside of it being argued in front of fundamentalist/conservative judges, but I could see them making it as a more valid argument in regard to a religious institution. Although, you could argue that Sally the church accountant is arguably just as separated from the religion as Sally the cashier at Hobby Lobby. So, I think there are certainly some positions even in a religious institution that you could make the debate about too.

..and no worries, as an atheist in the South, I am certain for separation of church and state. I already have enough fun undoing some of the garbage that I hear religiously oriented schools teaching kids.