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Nividia King of Doom ATI king of ???

Who cares, my friend's Radeon 9200 plays Doom great, I'm gonn make a guess ehre that my 5700u is gonna run HL2 just fine. As long as the games run on both cards, i'm happy, a card can't be judged on its' performance on ONE game 😉
 
Nividia King of Doom ATI king of caca.

But as long as they are around 10-15% of each other I dont see why it would matter.
 
I wouldn't care. The numbers don't exactly translate to gameplay. Vanilla Coke was proven better than Pepsi Blue through benchmarks and I don't give a damn either.

EDIT: besides, drivers are ever changing. The new ATI driver is giving people about 20% extra frames, which probably puts them around where nV is. Next thing you know, nvidia's going to counter with a driver optimization that gives them 800 times the performance of ATI.
 
Benches without AA/AF are meaningless for such expensive cards. Your UT2k4 analysis is highly flawed due to CPU limitations as well.

The 6800 U can give equal or better performance in pure speed conditions, but what's the point if it can't compete under eye candy tests?
 
Get motherboard dual pci-express. ATi X800 in one 6800 in the other. Use whichever is better for the game being played. I can hope. Otherwise dual 6800 best for anything.
 
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Benches without AA/AF are meaningless for such expensive cards. Your UT2k4 analysis is highly flawed due to CPU limitations as well.

The 6800 U can give equal or better performance in pure speed conditions, but what's the point if it can't compete under eye candy tests?

I agree, for once with you 100%!!! Wow this is new eh.

But however i think it is getting less and less accurate while doing AA and AF as both companies are optimizing their cards so it is not an accurate representation of speed. It is a representation of who can hide the cheating better, so far ATI seems to be winning hide the cheating.

Also please remember that the 6800 is new architecture and therefore is no where near mature whereas the X800's are running off and extremely mature architecture.

Some of those results are well within the margin of error, i mean how can you say one card beats another card when it beats it by 1-5%. yeah winning is winning but in computers there is still the margin of error.

-Kevin
 
There is no real crown king this generation. They both win some and lose some, but still handle everyhting well. As far as ATI's improved drivers for Doom3 go, I hope that someone looks at them really carefully to see if there is any cheating going on. I'm not saying there is, but I think that this should be looked into. Currently, I have neither Doom3 nor an ATi card, but I'm still curious.
 
Those benches show me 2 things.

1, Nvidia really botched up with the GT, because it is so good not bad so how would buy and ultra or extreme.

2. ATI really needs to release a GT equivalent with 16 pipes. The XP is competitive but the Pro is far worse.

And ore on topic, I think ATI will win HL2 easily. The initial DOOM3 benches long ago showed Nvidia ahead and early HL2 benches showed ATI way ahead and I don't think it will change, much.
 
Originally posted by: elkinm
Those benches show me 2 things.

1, Nvidia really botched up with the GT, because it is so good not bad so how would buy and ultra or extreme.

2. ATI really needs to release a GT equivalent with 16 pipes. The XP is competitive but the Pro is far worse.

And ore on topic, I think ATI will win HL2 easily. The initial DOOM3 benches long ago showed Nvidia ahead and early HL2 benches showed ATI way ahead and I don't think it will change, much.


One thing you forget, new benchmarks of the leaked alpha/beta show good news for Nvidia owners on HL2. Another thing, the older benchmarks that were shown having ATI win by a large margin were not run using the new 6800s. Big difference.
 
Originally posted by: FluxCap
Originally posted by: elkinm
Those benches show me 2 things.

1, Nvidia really botched up with the GT, because it is so good not bad so how would buy and ultra or extreme.

2. ATI really needs to release a GT equivalent with 16 pipes. The XP is competitive but the Pro is far worse.

And ore on topic, I think ATI will win HL2 easily. The initial DOOM3 benches long ago showed Nvidia ahead and early HL2 benches showed ATI way ahead and I don't think it will change, much.


One thing you forget, new benchmarks of the leaked alpha/beta show good news for Nvidia owners on HL2. Another thing, the older benchmarks that were shown having ATI win by a large margin were not run using the new 6800s. Big difference.

Yes... all the benchmarks froma while ago were done ojn NV3x hardware. THis is the new stuff and from what i have seen Nvidia wins, though it may be marginal, HL2.

-Kevin
 
The "alpha" version was nowhere near done, it was missing textures blah blah blah, I don't know how you guys can say "Nvidia" or "ATI" is winning hl2. I mean, Valve said something like the testers prefered teh x800 pro because it outperformed nvidia by 30% but that can be crap. Therefore, wait for some freaking benchmarks to come out before passing judgement!!!!!!!

Oh yes, and ATI seems to be better on some Direct X applications (Farcry), and supposedly, it's image quality is better. (i have neither card)
 
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