Nitrogen chemical?

[SagaLore]

I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

 

[jagec]

Nitrogen at high pressure.


...what for?

 

[bobdole369]

nh3? not mostly, but definitely there.

 

[destrekor]

not many Nitrogen compounds are liquid at room temperature, and the majority of the ones that are, are also very dangerous, and I'm searching right now to try and find one that is composed mostly of Nitrogen and not finding much luck, but one that is liquid, but not a majority Nitrogen compound, is Hydrogen Cyanide. A number of cyanide (CN) compounds exist, and if you keep it cold it'll stay liquid (becomes gaseous at a temp a little warmer than room temp.).

I'm interested in what you are looking for here. Ammonia (NH3) is probably the better bet, it's much safer to work with, although depending on the uses and the reasons for needing the Nitrogen can also produce toxic vapors. But acquiring NH3 basically means purchasing household ammonia, which is a mostly water low-concentration to keep it liquid.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Trying to plot a terrorist plot?

Why are you a terrorist? Who are your terrorist friends? Where are your terrorist bases?

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: bobdole369
nh3? not mostly, but definitely there.

ammonia is mostly nitrogen...





although it boils at -33 C.

 

[krylon]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: bobdole369
nh3? not mostly, but definitely there.

ammonia is mostly nitrogen...





although it boils at -33 C.

Ammonia in pure form is also a gas at room temperature/pressure.

 

[krylon]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

How much is mostly?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: krylon

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

How much is mostly?

Over half?

A lot of liquid chemicals are a mix of hydrogen and/or carbon. I just want to find one that is nitrogen. It needs to be liquid at normal pressure too - or a solid that is readily soluble.

 

[Amoreena]

Ammonium Nitrate :evil:

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: krylon

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: bobdole369
nh3? not mostly, but definitely there.

ammonia is mostly nitrogen...





although it boils at -33 C.

Ammonia in pure form is also a gas at room temperature/pressure.

Gosh darn it... I hadn't realised that it would be a gas above its boiling point...

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Amoreena
Ammonium Nitrate :evil:

Is a solid.

I can think of two more compounds which come closer to being liquid at room temp, but none that are actually liquid at room temp.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

Nitric acid?


or NI3 and KNO3 are solid at room temp.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

Nitric acid?

but is not mostly. It's HNO3


So, SagaLore, are you also okay with soluble salts? That opens up the options a good deal as far as I can tell.

But, we really need a little help here. How will you use the salts? Make a water-based solution? Or place the salts directly into a liquid chemical to react with?

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

Nitric acid?


or NI3 and KNO3 are solid at room temp.

HNO3 isn't mostly nitrogen and the salts are both solids. Although 70% conc nitric acid is fun...

 

[SagaLore]

Well so far I've looked up Ammonium Nitrate and Nitric Acid, and I'm realizing that these are super dangerous and probably not my best bet...

Looking at their molecular pictorial representations, I also see that the N is typically the base for a lot of non-N atoms. There isn't anything that uses N chains, kind of like C chains?

 

[PlasmaBomb]

I have win!

What is it worth?

 

[dullard]

Hydrazine. N2H4. It has hydrogen, but I think it is very close to what you want. It is dangerous though.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

All the nitrogen compounds are pretty nasty, some are toxic, some are very very toxic and some are explosive, then you have the ones which are really really toxic and explosive.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

Nitric acid?


or NI3 and KNO3 are solid at room temp.

HNO3 isn't mostly nitrogen and the salts are both solids. Although 70% conc nitric acid is fun...

im aware they are both solids...

Originally posted by: SagaLore
A lot of liquid chemicals are a mix of hydrogen and/or carbon. I just want to find one that is nitrogen. It needs to be liquid at normal pressure too - or a solid that is readily soluble.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: dullard
Hydrazine. N2H4. It has hydrogen, but I think it is very close to what you want. It is dangerous though.

You made that too easy for him!

The other possibility is Hydrazoic acid (N3H).

**WARNING** Hydrazoic acid extremely explosive liquid at room temperature and pressure.

Hydrazine isn't much better as it is highly toxic and unstable, although it is used in rockets.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

Nitric acid?


or NI3 and KNO3 are solid at room temp.

HNO3 isn't mostly nitrogen and the salts are both solids. Although 70% conc nitric acid is fun...

im aware they are both solids...

Originally posted by: SagaLore
A lot of liquid chemicals are a mix of hydrogen and/or carbon. I just want to find one that is nitrogen. It needs to be liquid at normal pressure too - or a solid that is readily soluble.

They are both solids that aren't mainly nitrogen was the implied point. Sorry if it didn't come across that way.

I like the idea though, as at least they are reasonably safe...

Edit: If we are suggesting solids that are mostly nitrogen, I go with sodium azide - NaN3.

Guess what its highly toxic, dangerous for the environment and unstable too.

SagaLore do you see a pattern emerging here?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
extremely explosive liquid at room temperature and pressure.

Yea I don't want something unstable or too toxic.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Well so far I've looked up Ammonium Nitrate and Nitric Acid, and I'm realizing that these are super dangerous and probably not my best bet...

Looking at their molecular pictorial representations, I also see that the N is typically the base for a lot of non-N atoms. There isn't anything that uses N chains, kind of like C chains?

Nitrogen will chain with Sulfur, but generally is < 50% nitrogen.

the geometry of nitrogen bonding is not tetrahedral like carbon, and chains would be very strainuous bonds, likely resulting in very volatile compunds if they did exist.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm looking for a molecule that is mostly comprised of nitrogen atoms, and is liquid at room temperature.

Ideas?

Nitric acid?


or NI3 and KNO3 are solid at room temp.

HNO3 isn't mostly nitrogen and the salts are both solids. Although 70% conc nitric acid is fun...

im aware they are both solids...

Originally posted by: SagaLore
A lot of liquid chemicals are a mix of hydrogen and/or carbon. I just want to find one that is nitrogen. It needs to be liquid at normal pressure too - or a solid that is readily soluble.

They are both solids that aren't mainly nitrogen was the implied point. Sorry if it didn't come across that way.

I like the idea though, as at least they are reasonably safe...

NI3 is not safe, not even close.