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Nissan GT-R Gets a Significant Price Increase

Kromis

Kromis

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http://www.edmunds.com/insidel.../News/articleId=144266

New base price: $81,790 ($76,840)
New premium price: $84,040 ($79,090)

In its pricing statement, Nissan pointed out several modest upgrades to the 2010 GT-R, including five additional horses, boosting output to 485 horsepower. Front-seat and side curtain airbags are now standard on both models. The 2010 GT-R also gets an enhanced suspension with redesigned shocks, new wheel finishes and new transmission control module programming "which optimizes clutch engagement for improved acceleration from a standing start with the vehicle dynamic control on," Nissan said in a statement.
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Yikes!

Wonder if the "value" component of the car will go up in flames...
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Kromis
Wonder if the "value" component of the car will go up in flames...
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That was in question with the whole glass tranny debacle.
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One whiny bitch who destroyed his transmission through extreme abuse != 'glass tranny'. Seriously, this shit is getting pathetic each and every time anyone mentions the effing GT-R. Change the record.
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Kromis
Wonder if the "value" component of the car will go up in flames...
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That was in question with the whole glass tranny debacle.
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One whiny bitch who destroyed his transmission through extreme abuse != 'glass tranny'. Seriously, this shit is getting pathetic each and every time anyone mentions the effing GT-R. Change the record.
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Woah I was just saying that people were saying it wasn't a good deal when that tranny/launch control issue was the top news. I didn't know you felt that way about the GT-R :heart:
 
So $7,000 price increase last year. $5,000 price increase this year. I guess Nissan is trying to follow the Acura NSX model. NSX went from $55k to $90k.
 
Originally posted by: Rick James
Z06 still costs 70K
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I have a few engineer friends (single males) who have the money for such things and was able to sit in and drive one of those for an afternoon.
While I admit it was powerful I have to say I wasnt impressed with anything else. It was uncomfortable, had relatively poor visability, didnt have much for features and overall I wouldnt drive it again or buy one for myself.

Last week I had some free time and went over to the Nissan dealership for some test drives. I felt bad going in there when I knew I wasnt buying, but they werent exactly busy either.
Drove a fully loaded 2009 Maxima and Murano, and got to sit in a GT-R. The Maxima had a buttload of nice features like rearview camera, all 4 seats heated, air conditioned drivers seat, heated steering wheel, voice-navigation and a bunch of other things I loved but could not afford. Looks like electronic key is going to be standard from now on.
The Murano was even better with DVD players in the headrests for the rear passangers. 4 way climate control (meaning the people in the third row had nothing) and the rear camera had an overlay so as you turned the steering wheel you could see exactly where you would back up. Which is a good thing because rear visibility is not nearly as a Toyota Highlander.
Where was I? OH YES!
I liked it a lot but could not afford it. Both cars handled extremely well in the city and on the highway. The dealer was kind enough to let me take the Maxima from a 3 mile odometer to about 17. I almost felt guilty about it.

Got to test the GTR (just around the block) and while it may not be quite as fast it was a heck of a lot more impressive than the Corvette. Better ride and more comfortable, a LOT more features and overall felt like a car that was built to be driven. The Z06 is really only good on a race track in short intervals. After I get off the race track the Nissan GT-R is the vehicle I would want to drive around.
If I could afford it.
Which I cant.
🙁

The Maxima would be an OK substitute but as nice as it was I still dont think it is a good deal for the money. If I could get it about 5 thousand cheaper and with an excellent bumper-to-bumper service plan it would be a winner.

Along those lines another engineer friend let me sit in his Viper. Wouldnt let me drive it but I dont blame him and didnt want to anyway. It was even less comfortable. Again I think I'd only want to use it on a race track for an hour on the weekends. Any other time I'd prefer a Nissan or Toyota. The GT-R if I could afford it.
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Seriously, this shit is getting pathetic each and every time anyone mentions the effing GT-R.
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Touch a nerve did he? Good grief...it got the reputation because of a design flaw, not because someone "abused" it. Don't put a feature in the car and market it if you don't want people to use it, simple as that.

Reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Peter is standing in front of a button with a sign next to it that says "DO NOT PUSH." So he looks around, pushes it, and a little karate master walks out, bows, and kicks him in the the groin.

Guess we all can't resist the temptation to use that button...
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Shortylickens speaks the truth.
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To each his own. I've rode and/or driven many different sports cars and C6 and Z06 are about the most comfortable. I've heard and agree about the Cobalt like interior but poor visibility complaint is a first. The solid comfy ride along with insane power/torque throughout the entire powerband was my first and lasting impression. The only other car that gave me the same thrill was the Viper. My one small complaint about the C6 series is the somewhat lack of precise feedback from steering which you get with German cars like Porsche and BMW. So it takes little longer to develop a trust and learn the limits so you can drive it little more aggressively. Another is the wide turning radius at very slow speed which can effect how you get around the tight parking lots. But other than that, I really have no complaints. GM scored a homerun with the C6, Z06, and ZR1. Best thing about the Corvette is that it's a Chevy so you can fix anything with a hammer. Parts are cheap and plentiful and the engine is pretty much bulletproof.
 
Originally posted by: kabob983
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Seriously, this shit is getting pathetic each and every time anyone mentions the effing GT-R.
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Touch a nerve did he? Good grief...it got the reputation because of a design flaw, not because someone "abused" it. Don't put a feature in the car and market it if you don't want people to use it, simple as that.

Reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Peter is standing in front of a button with a sign next to it that says "DO NOT PUSH." So he looks around, pushes it, and a little karate master walks out, bows, and kicks him in the the groin.

Guess we all can't resist the temptation to use that button...
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I'm not the one writing 3 paragraphs about it. Exactly how many transmissions have failed as a direct result of LC abuse?
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: kabob983
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Seriously, this shit is getting pathetic each and every time anyone mentions the effing GT-R.
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Touch a nerve did he? Good grief...it got the reputation because of a design flaw, not because someone "abused" it. Don't put a feature in the car and market it if you don't want people to use it, simple as that.

Reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Peter is standing in front of a button with a sign next to it that says "DO NOT PUSH." So he looks around, pushes it, and a little karate master walks out, bows, and kicks him in the the groin.

Guess we all can't resist the temptation to use that button...
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I'm not the one writing 3 paragraphs about it. Exactly how many transmissions have failed as a direct result of LC abuse?
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Neither am I. I wrote one paragraph about it and one + a sentence about Family Guy...

While Nissan technically didn't do anything wrong they messed up big time designing that LC. Call me old school but if all it takes is pushing a button to break your $80K car then something is extremely wrong...Nissan, while they won't outright admit it proved that's the truth with the ECU flash fix.
 
Originally posted by: kabob983
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: kabob983
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Seriously, this shit is getting pathetic each and every time anyone mentions the effing GT-R.
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Touch a nerve did he? Good grief...it got the reputation because of a design flaw, not because someone "abused" it. Don't put a feature in the car and market it if you don't want people to use it, simple as that.

Reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Peter is standing in front of a button with a sign next to it that says "DO NOT PUSH." So he looks around, pushes it, and a little karate master walks out, bows, and kicks him in the the groin.

Guess we all can't resist the temptation to use that button...
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I'm not the one writing 3 paragraphs about it. Exactly how many transmissions have failed as a direct result of LC abuse?
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Neither am I. I wrote one paragraph about it and one + a sentence about Family Guy...

While Nissan technically didn't do anything wrong they messed up big time designing that LC. Call me old school but if all it takes is pushing a button to break your $80K car then something is extremely wrong...Nissan, while they won't outright admit it proved that's the truth with the ECU flash fix.
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Why does it matter if the reflashed cars are quicker in a straight line than the old cars? Edmunds Inside Line tested their GTR after the reflash and 0-60 times were faster for the new car, even without using LC.

You're still getting the same (or better) performance with more peace of mind, so I don't see how that's a problem.

And nobody "broke" an $80k car just by pressing the LC...the one guy bitching about it on forums admitted to abusing his car over and over and over with high RPM launches. If you did the same thing on an Audi R8 or any other car with a dual clutch gearbox, you'd probably have to send those in for repair too...
 
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Shortylickens speaks the truth.
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To each his own. I've rode and/or driven many different sports cars and C6 and Z06 are about the most comfortable. I've heard and agree about the Cobalt like interior but poor visibility complaint is a first. The solid comfy ride along with insane power/torque throughout the entire powerband was my first and lasting impression. The only other car that gave me the same thrill was the Viper. My one small complaint about the C6 series is the somewhat lack of precise feedback from steering which you get with German cars like Porsche and BMW. So it takes little longer to develop a trust and learn the limits so you can drive it little more aggressively. Another is the wide turning radius at very slow speed which can effect how you get around the tight parking lots. But other than that, I really have no complaints. GM scored a homerun with the C6, Z06, and ZR1. Best thing about the Corvette is that it's a Chevy so you can fix anything with a hammer. Parts are cheap and plentiful and the engine is pretty much bulletproof.
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Agree about the viper. Friend had let me borrow one for the weekend and its just a different animal then i had ever driven before. It had so much torque and wherever i would go people would just stare at it.
 
Originally posted by: 996GT2
Why does it matter if the reflashed cars are quicker in a straight line than the old cars? Edmunds Inside Line tested their GTR after the reflash and 0-60 times were faster for the new car, even without using LC.

You're still getting the same (or better) performance with more peace of mind, so I don't see how that's a problem.
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It matters because the product/feature should never have been released in the first place, why add/market any feature that will break your car that easily after only a few uses? (few meaning 5-30 or whatever). Even if you put it in the manual and such that's lacking the foresight to see that eventually it's gonna break and people are going to want answers. I saw the Edmunds article, glad they can still deliver the performance they promised.

And nobody "broke" an $80k car just by pressing the LC...the one guy bitching about it on forums admitted to abusing his car over and over and over with high RPM launches.
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That I didn't know, I thought it was only a few times he used the LC and it broke.

Originally posted by: Rick James
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Shortylickens speaks the truth.
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To each his own. I've rode and/or driven many different sports cars and C6 and Z06 are about the most comfortable. I've heard and agree about the Cobalt like interior but poor visibility complaint is a first. The solid comfy ride along with insane power/torque throughout the entire powerband was my first and lasting impression. The only other car that gave me the same thrill was the Viper. My one small complaint about the C6 series is the somewhat lack of precise feedback from steering which you get with German cars like Porsche and BMW. So it takes little longer to develop a trust and learn the limits so you can drive it little more aggressively. Another is the wide turning radius at very slow speed which can effect how you get around the tight parking lots. But other than that, I really have no complaints. GM scored a homerun with the C6, Z06, and ZR1. Best thing about the Corvette is that it's a Chevy so you can fix anything with a hammer. Parts are cheap and plentiful and the engine is pretty much bulletproof.
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Agree about the viper. Friend had let me borrow one for the weekend and its just a different animal then i had ever driven before. It had so much torque and wherever i would go people would just stare at it.
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Buddy of mine thought about buying a GTS but took an all day test drive in one and did a 180 degree about face, he said anything more than a short drive it was extremely uncomfortible. He picked up a C6 and is looking at upgrading to either a Z06, Viper SRT, or (hopefully) a Porsche 996 Turbo w/X50.
 
Who cares if a guy used the feature that much on the GTR, that's what it's there for, TO BE USED. He didn't abuse the car you stupid nissan fanboy fucks, he used the car for what it's intended, GOING FAST. Guess what, the car failed because it can't go fast too much or you'll break it.

just because he used the launch feature 20-30 times doesn't mean abuse, jesus fucking christ, HOW IS LAUNCHING THE CAR THE WAY NISSAN SAYS YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO ABUSING IT? dumb fucking ignorant retards, go read the 100 page thread at the nissan forums about it.

 
Originally posted by: kabob983
Originally posted by: 996GT2
Why does it matter if the reflashed cars are quicker in a straight line than the old cars? Edmunds Inside Line tested their GTR after the reflash and 0-60 times were faster for the new car, even without using LC.

You're still getting the same (or better) performance with more peace of mind, so I don't see how that's a problem.
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It matters because the product/feature should never have been released in the first place, why add/market any feature that will break your car that easily after only a few uses? (few meaning 5-30 or whatever). Even if you put it in the manual and such that's lacking the foresight to see that eventually it's gonna break and people are going to want answers. I saw the Edmunds article, glad they can still deliver the performance they promised.

And nobody "broke" an $80k car just by pressing the LC...the one guy bitching about it on forums admitted to abusing his car over and over and over with high RPM launches.
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That I didn't know, I thought it was only a few times he used the LC and it broke.

Originally posted by: Rick James
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Shortylickens speaks the truth.
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To each his own. I've rode and/or driven many different sports cars and C6 and Z06 are about the most comfortable. I've heard and agree about the Cobalt like interior but poor visibility complaint is a first. The solid comfy ride along with insane power/torque throughout the entire powerband was my first and lasting impression. The only other car that gave me the same thrill was the Viper. My one small complaint about the C6 series is the somewhat lack of precise feedback from steering which you get with German cars like Porsche and BMW. So it takes little longer to develop a trust and learn the limits so you can drive it little more aggressively. Another is the wide turning radius at very slow speed which can effect how you get around the tight parking lots. But other than that, I really have no complaints. GM scored a homerun with the C6, Z06, and ZR1. Best thing about the Corvette is that it's a Chevy so you can fix anything with a hammer. Parts are cheap and plentiful and the engine is pretty much bulletproof.
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Agree about the viper. Friend had let me borrow one for the weekend and its just a different animal then i had ever driven before. It had so much torque and wherever i would go people would just stare at it.
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Buddy of mine thought about buying a GTS but took an all day test drive in one and did a 180 degree about face, he said anything more than a short drive it was extremely uncomfortible. He picked up a C6 and is looking at upgrading to either a Z06, Viper SRT, or (hopefully) a Porsche 996 Turbo w/X50.
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The non SRT10's are very uncomfortable and horrible on more then a test drive.
 
Originally posted by: kabob983

Buddy of mine thought about buying a GTS but took an all day test drive in one and did a 180 degree about face, he said anything more than a short drive it was extremely uncomfortible. He picked up a C6 and is looking at upgrading to either a Z06, Viper SRT, or (hopefully) a Porsche 996 Turbo w/X50.
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Vipers are uncomfortable. It has little creature comfort, A/C doesn't blow cold air, and side exhaust can get hot and burn you. It has basically no driver aid or nannies and is true driver's car. It's the antithesis of the GTR which the computer basically drives the car for you. I wouldn't want it as a daily driver but as a weekend/toy car, it's great. The attention the car gets is unreal and it can be good or bad depending on if you enjoy that sort of thing. You would have to drive an European exotic like Ferrari or Lambo to get more attention.

Compared to the Viper, Z06 is like a Caddy. It's comfortable, civilized, has all the newest safety and driver aids, and has all the tech and toys like Heads Up Display, Nav, and heated seats. A/C and heat works great even when you're pushing the car. C6 and Z06 make great touring cars with its comfortable ride and great gas mileage, and ample luggage space. That's why you see so many retired folks going on extended road trips with it. When I hear people say Z06 is uncomfortable and has a brutal ride, I question whether they actually rode or driven the vehicle or just regurgitating the BS they heard from Jeremy Clarkson. I mean majority of vette owners are retired over the age 60 crowd. They have bad backs, knees, and arthritis. GM caters to this crowd with chrome wheels and other outdated bling. You really think they would make harsh riding, uncomfortable car? Vette has spacious interior built for large, tall, overweight American body. It's one of the roomier and comfortable sports car on the market. People criticizing the uncomfortable ride need to go back to driving their Lincoln Town Car or Toyota Avalon.
 
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