Nissan 350Z gets raped in Top Gear review *video*

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Siddhartha

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He said he did not evaluate the Nissan's handling because the road he was on was the same road a drummer crashed his Corvette. What kind of crap is that? Why did he chose that road in the first place? Was it the only road in the UK that he could have driven on or was he trying to make a point?
 

alphatarget1

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it's not tiff! well, he started dissing the zs in the beginning so i got the sense that he is just biased. the review lacks substance and it nitpicks on the 350z.
 

styrafoam

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: styrafoam
He did not really evaluate its performance because he did not like the engine sound. Really what kind of sh!t is this? How could he evaluate a performance car this way?

This combined with the introduction leads one to think he had his mind made up before even looking at the car. The first Z was acceptable because it was small? Every following model was a flop so this one must also be if you follow his logic.
Flop?

I was under the impression that the 240 and 280Z(X) did well, the 260 not so.

I'm only basing this from the statments he made in the introduction. The cars got worse with every revision because they were designed for the Amercian market according to this car reviewing prune.
 

jjyiz28

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inho, car is ugly, point blank. its looks like a vw beetle with his very roundy shape, its discusting. 300zx don't look that bad though.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
tiff gave the honda NSX (acura) a pretty good review... so maybe it's just him

How can anyone give the NSX a bad review?!?! Yea, it's overpriced and aged, but if you judge it based on the vehicle's performance, the NSX is a great vehicle. Maybe not in the top of it's class, but great non the less.
 

freebee

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One thing that many people are forgetting is that these reviewers generally test the two extremes of cars, the high dollar exotics and lightweight sports cars. The middle bracket (ie, 350zs, Mustangs, Camaros, etc.) doesn't really fit the profile that they are used to. In a way, its a social and cultural gap, rather than any specific performance lapses.

For example, lets say someone that is used to dating 6' tall, 120lb blonde models, with an occasional 4'10'' asian mistress for variety, is suddenly given a 5'6'' 140lb all-american white girl. He's not going to know what to do....he may not even like it. That is the problem with testing the 350z.
 

DPmaster

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The only argument he made that I would fully agree with would be the stereo system. I've listened to the sound system in a 350Z, and it definitely could be better. Doesn't matter much to me though as I would have replaced the factory sound system on any car I would have purchased. Personally, I love this car and hope to have one some day. Some people either love it or don't...the car provides great bang for the buck though. Come on! Look at this, this, or this!
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I am not a Nissan fan boy but this review is pretty typical of the British motor press bias against Japanese and American cars. As a rule no matter how good a Japanese and American car is one way or another, they will trash it

He did not like the stereo. Golly all he had to do is turn down the bass.

He did not like the styling. Neither do I but that is a matter of taste.

He did not the like the engine sound. If this were a Lotus, I am sure this would not have been a big deal.

He thought it was too heavy. I have read this criticism in other reviews. If this were an Aston Martin, it would not have been a big deal.

He did not really evaluate its performance because he did not like the engine sound. Really what kind of sh!t is this? How could he evaluate a performance car this way?

He did not like who designed it. Hmmmm, sounds like snobbism to me.

He did not think the trunk was large enough. If this had been a Ferrari, it would not have been a big deal.
Not so. He gave VERY high praise to the Ford GT, Mistubishi Evo, and Subaru STi when he reviewed those.

And as for the trunk, the original marketing of the earliest Z's was that they were a true sports car that could easily hold 2 golf bags or 2 suitcases. That was rare in those days and I can attest that old Z's had plenty of rear cargo space.

When shopping for my last car, I test-drove the 350Z. In fact, I waited for it to come out, and I was seriously intent on buying one, with fond memories of the old 240Z I owned back in school. Then I drove one. I will say that I actually liked the 350Z's exhaust noise, and I thought the car performed well. But it has no glove box, no cupholders, no cargo area, and cheapness all over the interior. 2-seater I expected, but the rest was quite a surprise. And I wondered how I could justify such a car as my daily driver... especially for $30k+.
So I didn't buy one. And I spent thousands less and bought an equally-well performing but MUCH more practical WRX.

edit: btw, his opinion of the early Z's is dead-on. The 240Z had the best hp-to-weight ratio of any later Z model until the 300ZX TT.
 

PCboy

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
tiff gave the honda NSX (acura) a pretty good review... so maybe it's just him

How can anyone give the NSX a bad review?!?! Yea, it's overpriced and aged, but if you judge it based on the vehicle's performance, the NSX is a great vehicle. Maybe not in the top of it's class, but great non the less.

go to urbandictionary.com and type in NSX and take a look of all the ignorant assholes. I logged in a dummy account just to save my bebe!!
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: psteng19
Here's another Top Gear 350Z review.
Tiff apparently likes it a lot more.
text <- low quality video

Seems like a MUCH more unbiased review.
 

MustangSVT

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never had any respect for him in the past, and I guess it will stay that way.

all of the review was based on his "likings" over facts.

That's why I like Best Motoring :) all about performance and real facts and real driving skills to back it up!
 

johnjbruin

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That guy is a fvking @ss and his reviews are usually crap.
Where is Tiff when you need him? :(

edit: just saw Tiff's review. That is much more realistic.
 

Techie333

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HAHAHAHHAHA! WOW! I don't think it deserves that much, but it is still not good quality and build. If I may suggest, buy a used Mercedes SLK instead. much more useful and pmp w/ retractable hardtop. I DID! LOL! And I know somebody else that traded in their new 350Z for a 3-4 year old SLK!
 

Mingon

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Originally posted by: ski2slow
Hey let's see if the Brits build anything remotely like this. Oh... I don't think any of the cars are quite affordable. In fact I believe most of the car companies were bought by outsiders such as Americans, Germans and Japanese. They still can't get rid of their imperial mentallity.


Nice attitutte! You should try a TVR. Quicker than any car for the money. As for imperial mentatlity howabout non-imperial stubborness :p ever wondered why your cars are LHD!

As for JC (Jeremy Clarkson) he is perhaps the most influential writer/presenter in europe if not the world. I doubt any other writer could cause Vauxhall to lose 10's of millions by reviewing a car and not saying a thing. For those that dont watch Topgear, JC is one of 1000 english peopel who have a deposit on a ford GT. The running joke in his last series was to praise any ford so as to get in thier good books.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: psteng19
Text <-- don't know why it was zipped, savings of maybe 300KB?
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All other magazine reviews I've read on the 350Z didn't seem to have the gripes he encountered, other than the plastic interior.

300 KB on a 56k modem will shave a few seconds off :D
 

Jeff7181

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I've lost some respect for that guy... not just because he can't pronouce the make or model of the car properly, but because he called it a muscle car, and because he called the Corvette a muscle car. I think he's just bitter because the make is asian and it was designed in America. He complains about no back seat... why? Nissan never claimed it could seat 4. He complained about the sub woofer... why? Learn to use the radio to turn the bass down. He complained about the lack of trunk space for his dog! I will agree with him on one thing though... the French engine... stupid sissy French boys. :D
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: ski2slow
Hey let's see if the Brits build anything remotely like this. Oh... I don't think any of the cars are quite affordable. In fact I believe most of the car companies were bought by outsiders such as Americans, Germans and Japanese. They still can't get rid of their imperial mentallity.

STFU n00b. Ever taken a ride in a TVR?

[Edit] A point I'd forgotten:
You wonder why Rolls-Royce and Bentley cars are unaffordable? If you want one and have to ask how much it is, you can't afford it. They're expensive because they're the best cars in their class in the world.
Nothing comes close to drawing up somewhere vaguely important in a Bentley.

Nice attitutte! You should try a TVR. Quicker than any car for the money. As for imperial mentatlity howabout non-imperial stubborness ever wondered why your cars are LHD! As for JC (Jeremy Clarkson) he is perhaps the most influential writer/presenter in europe if not the world. I doubt any other writer could cause Vauxhall to lose 10's of millions by reviewing a car and not saying a thing. For those that dont watch Topgear, JC is one of 1000 english peopel who have a deposit on a ford GT. The running joke in his last series was to praise any ford so as to get in thier good books.

Exactly.
 

Haircut

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That was almost praise as far as reviews by Jeremy Clarkson go, you should see his review of the Chrysler Crossfire if you want to see him really slate something.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I've lost some respect for that guy... not just because he can't pronouce the make or model of the car properly, but because he called it a muscle car, and because he called the Corvette a muscle car. I think he's just bitter because the make is asian and it was designed in America. He complains about no back seat... why? Nissan never claimed it could seat 4. He complained about the sub woofer... why? Learn to use the radio to turn the bass down. He complained about the lack of trunk space for his dog! I will agree with him on one thing though... the French engine... stupid sissy French boys. :D

I hope you're joking about the pronounciation part. They're British... i dont know what else you can expect. As for the other things... I think you missed his sarcasm. :p
 

imported_Phil

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not just because he can't pronouce the make or model of the car properly

I agree with BoyRacer. What's the correct pronunciation of Nissan then, the "American-English" way? Just because another country of people with an entirely different accent (who, BTW, gave you your language) pronounces something different from you, it's the wrong way?

Jeez, wake up and smell the coffee.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
tiff gave the honda NSX (acura) a pretty good review... so maybe it's just him

How can anyone give the NSX a bad review?!?! Yea, it's overpriced and aged, but if you judge it based on the vehicle's performance, the NSX is a great vehicle. Maybe not in the top of it's class, but great non the less.

That car only gets bad reviews from magazine racers in the US... ;)
 

TekDemon

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I'm fairly certain that the VQ engine is NOT a Renault engine. I mean, the engine's been in the Maxima forever. So just based on that I'm figuring that JC is a moron. French engine? FRENCH ENGINE?!!?

LOL, I love how he criticizes the 0-60 by saying that it does seem to post the claimed times but that it didn't "feel" fast. *sigh*

And a subwoofer is a negative? And he actually scores a sports car for practicality?
I wonder if someone at a competing car company paid him off to bash the 350 or something, because half of his points really don't make sense.