nintendo's next console

[Anarchist420]

Do you think it will be a powerhouse, a souped-up 360, roughly equivalent to a 360, or less than a 360?

If I were nintendo, then I'd borrow the X360 GPU and double the clock speed for their next console and have more eDRAM (like 32 MB instead of 10MB), and I'd use the same Power PC architecture as the Wii except only make it 3 or 4 cores and make them each about 200MHz faster. Then I'd use 240MB 1T-SRAM for system memory and another 240MB for textures. Finally, I'd use a proprietary medium with about 13-18GB of storage. Is all of that a good idea?

They could use a 32 nm process and the double clock speed won't have a high tdp. Wasn't Xenos originally 90nm?

I'm sorry if this was a retarded thread, but I'm hoping that nintendo's next console won't be a pos hardware-wise.

 

[RavenSEAL]

LOL, nintendo has never been known for innovating hardware.

 

[warcrow]

LOL, nintendo has never been known for innovating hardware.

You sure about that? What about the Gamecube controllers (first to impliment analog sticks)? Wii Remotes? The original DS (touch screens)? 3DS (projected 3D imaging without glasses?

Despite what we, as the hardcore, think about motion controls--it really picked up a TON of new gamers (or at the very least customers) for Nintendo. Move isnt that impressive beause it's just a Wii remote in higher fidelity, but I think Kinect is catching Nintendo's attention. I wonder how (if at all) it's going to effect their next console.

The next generation (which I think is still a ways off) is going to be very very interesting. It terms of processing power, who knows, but you can bet Nintendo is going to drop a ton of R&D resources into the controller/controlling aspect like they always do. Look what it did for the Wii, right?

One thing I do sort of hope for is some kind of Acheivement/Trophy system (Mario stars!), mainly beause I think Nintendo would try to do something unique there.

 

[RavenSEAL]

You sure about that? What about the Gamecube controllers (first to impliment analog sticks)? Wii Remotes? The original DS (touch screens)? 3DS (projected 3D imaging without glasses?

Despite what we, as the hardcore, think about motion controls--it really picked up a TON of new gamers (or at the very least customers) for Nintendo. Move isnt that impressive beause it's just a Wii remote in higher fidelity, but I think Kinect is catching Nintendo's attention. I wonder how (if at all) it's going to effect their next console.

The next generation (which I think is still a ways off) is going to be very very interesting. It terms of processing power, who knows, but you can bet Nintendo is going to drop a ton of R&D resources into the controller/controlling aspect like they always do. Look what it did for the Wii, right?

One thing I do sort of hope for is some kind of Acheivement/Trophy system (Mario stars!), mainly beause I think Nintendo would try to do something unique there.

Touch screens had been around for a while, as a matter of fact, i think Palm was the first to introduce them to the mainstream market(I might be wrong though, could have been another company).

3D has been around since like the 70s? Maybe 80s? I don't know how well this 3d without glasses thing is gonna work, only time will tell.

Also, nintendo seems to be running out of ideas for games, all they are living off of is Mario/Zelda/Metroid.

All this motion sensor, motion control stuff is really not that great...sure, it's inovating, but it can be rather pathetic and doesn't appeal to the true core of the people that support the video game industry.

I truly don't expect anything game changing from nintendo any time soon...

 

[blurredvision]

You sure about that? What about the Gamecube controllers (first to impliment analog sticks)?

*cough* N64 *cough*


I'm not sure even the N64 was the first to bring an actual analog stick to console gaming, but it was probably was the first to make it standard and bring it to the masses.

 

[reallyscrued]

You sure about that? What about the Gamecube controllers (first to impliment analog sticks)? Wii Remotes? The original DS (touch screens)? 3DS (projected 3D imaging without glasses?

Despite what we, as the hardcore, think about motion controls--it really picked up a TON of new gamers (or at the very least customers) for Nintendo. Move isnt that impressive beause it's just a Wii remote in higher fidelity, but I think Kinect is catching Nintendo's attention. I wonder how (if at all) it's going to effect their next console.

The next generation (which I think is still a ways off) is going to be very very interesting. It terms of processing power, who knows, but you can bet Nintendo is going to drop a ton of R&D resources into the controller/controlling aspect like they always do. Look what it did for the Wii, right?

One thing I do sort of hope for is some kind of Acheivement/Trophy system (Mario stars!), mainly beause I think Nintendo would try to do something unique there.

As much as I hate to say it, RavenSEAL is mostly correct. There are very few examples of when Nintendo actually innovated or was the first to bring something new to the gaming world. Most of their classic ideas were already implemented in earlier consoles that happened to fail.

HOWEVER, they usually are the first ones to APPLY such technologies and techniques in a way that adds to gameplay. Analog stick in the 64, shoulder buttons and diamond face button pattern on the SNES, Rumble Pak, analog triggers on Gamecube, the whole Wii thing, etc.

As for OP, it's pointless to speculate what they are going to stuff in their next console. Honestly, I hope it's a graphical powerhouse but I don't want to get my hopes up to save myself from disappointment.

BTW, what exactly makes you think they can just "borrow" the 360's GPU? How old are you?

 

[Illusio]

Touch screens had been around for a while, as a matter of fact, i think Palm was the first to introduce them to the mainstream market(I might be wrong though, could have been another company).

3D has been around since like the 70s? Maybe 80s? I don't know how well this 3d without glasses thing is gonna work, only time will tell.

Also, nintendo seems to be running out of ideas for games, all they are living off of is Mario/Zelda/Metroid.

All this motion sensor, motion control stuff is really not that great...sure, it's inovating, but it can be rather pathetic and doesn't appeal to the true core of the people that support the video game industry.

I truly don't expect anything game changing from nintendo any time soon...

That's stuff may have been around, but Nintendo was the first to utilize it in a game changing way (no pun intended).
And you might not be that impressed with motion control, but millions of people shoveling money at Nintendo would disagree with you. And apparently so do Sony and MS since they both just came out with their own motion control systems.

 

[purbeast0]

guys we can't forget the power glove and virtual boy!

and in all seriousness, with the 3DS and the Wii, looks like their motion and 3d ideas are finally paying off

 

[reallyscrued]

Also, nintendo seems to be running out of ideas for games, all they are living off of is Mario/Zelda/Metroid.

...Btw, this comment really annoys me. All the damn FPSes that have been coming out for the PS360 are the same re-hashed shit you've played 5 years ago on the PC. Same with the racers, same with well...basically everything.

The last two Mario games were probably the greatest games of this decade, if you got your head out of your ass you may just happen to realize it.

 

[warcrow]

*cough* N64 *cough*

I'm not sure even the N64 was the first to bring an actual analog stick to console gaming, but it was probably was the first to make it standard and bring it to the masses.

I meant the N64 of course. If there is another gaming console that brought an analog stick to gaming I'm unaware of it.

That's stuff may have been around, but Nintendo was the first to utilize it in a game changing way (no pun intended).
And you might not be that impressed with motion control, but millions of people shoveling money at Nintendo would disagree with you. And apparently so do Sony and MS since they both just came out with their own motion control systems.

^^^^this!

 

[Beev]

I think the next gen Nintendo console will be more powerful than the Wii (obviously), but still less powerful than the 360. We probably won't see huge jumps in console power ever again until we change mediums to virtual reality . My speculation on next gen:

Sony: Releases first. Blu-Ray. Full backwards compatibility with PS3, possibly PS1/2 if it isn't costly, which I wouldn't think it would be at this point...

Microsoft: Releases second, only because Sony released a new console. Blu-Ray (I really can't see them doing DVD again). Full backwards compatibility with 360, maybe even Xbox 100% this time.

Nintendo: Releases last. Way last. Wii's are still selling at a stupid rate. They have no need to make a new console. Though the DS is still selling insanely well and they are releasing the 3DS... DVD based still. Exact same controls as the Wii with maybe a couple of additions. Fully backwards compatible with Wii/Gamecube.

The PS4 and XBox 720 might even use digital distribution as their proprietary form of game delivery (take that, Gamestop).

 

[Beev]

The last two Mario games were probably the greatest games of this decade

I do not agree with this at all, and I loved both of those games. What did either of them do that was special, aside from being good Mario games?

 

[Homerboy]

All this motion sensor, motion control stuff is really not that great...sure, it's inovating, but it can be rather pathetic and doesn't appeal to the true core of the people that support the video game industry.

You realize that with Nintendo Wii, DS and casual games, the "core" of the industry is now not 25yr old males playing the latest installment of CoD right?

 

[Beev]

You realize that with Nintendo Wii, DS and casual games, the "core" of the industry is now not 25yr old males playing the latest installment of CoD right?

I know, and that makes me sad . I liked it before it was mainstream, like way back when only nerds played. I realize it's good for the industry for games to be widely used, but I miss when games were made with the geek in mind. Mario RPG, old Final Fantasy's. We just don't get very many games like them anymore. I guess I should be happy we get some from time to time.

 

[Homerboy]

I know, and that makes me sad . I liked it before it was mainstream, like way back when only nerds played. I realize it's good for the industry for games to be widely used, but I miss when games were made with the geek in mind. Mario RPG, old Final Fantasy's. We just don't get very many games like them anymore. I guess I should be happy we get some from time to time.

Heh. I'm the opposite. As I get older, I've gotten away from twitch games and FPSes. I will still play occasionally, but they do not hold my interest on any level... AT ALL. I play lots of indie games and more simple games (think XBLA and indie games off Steam etc). Big budgets created for the masses bore me to no end (minus sports games). THey completely lack personality and creativity.

These last two items I think is where Nintendo shines. What they do with their Mario and Zelda games, when it comes to personality and creativity and design are unrivaled.

 

[dguy6789]

LOL, nintendo has never been known for innovating hardware.

In terms of hardware, the N64 demolished the PS1 and the Gamecube demolished the PS2.

 

[RavenSEAL]

...Btw, this comment really annoys me. All the damn FPSes that have been coming out for the PS360 are the same re-hashed shit you've played 5 years ago on the PC. Same with the racers, same with well...basically everything.

The last two Mario games were probably the greatest games of this decade, if you got your head out of your ass you may just happen to realize it.

Lol, who the hell said anything about FPS? I know what FPS are today! But look at the PS3 lately...

LBP, Infamous, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy(Partially), Metal Gear Solid.

Honestly...all nintendo has is pokemon, mario and zelda. And haha, going back to the comment you made about FPSs, WTF has Nintendo doing for the past 5 years? Making and remaking mario and zelda games, no new original IPs from their First party studios have been anything close to successful.

 

[RavenSEAL]

In terms of hardware, the N64 demolished the PS1 and the Gamecube demolished the PS2.

Yea, that went well, hardware is like 30-40% of the equation...everyone knows that.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

LOL, nintendo has never been known for innovating hardware.

Yeah, cause, you know, MS and Sony haven't been pissing themselves for the last 2-3 years to get a motion control solution in place that would compete with Nintendo or anything.

I think what you call innovating is just improving on what's already there. Innovating is bringing something completely new to the table, which, for better or worse, Nintendo has done over and over again since the NES.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Touch screens had been around for a while, as a matter of fact, i think Palm was the first to introduce them to the mainstream market(I might be wrong though, could have been another company).

3D has been around since like the 70s? Maybe 80s? I don't know how well this 3d without glasses thing is gonna work, only time will tell.

Also, nintendo seems to be running out of ideas for games, all they are living off of is Mario/Zelda/Metroid.

All this motion sensor, motion control stuff is really not that great...sure, it's inovating, but it can be rather pathetic and doesn't appeal to the true core of the people that support the video game industry.

I truly don't expect anything game changing from nintendo any time soon...

Touch screens had been around, but a touch screen that's as precise as the DS screen, not so much, and definitely not in a handheld gaming system until Nintendo did it.

The 3DS is going to be huge. I can tell you firsthand if it works for you, you will literally shit yourself with excitement at what that technology brings to the table. Also, if you go back and look at the technical specs behind the Virtual Boy, whether it was a good system or not from a consume standpoint, it was way ahead of its time for what it was able to accomplish at the price point they offered it at.

As for motion control, again, yeah, the initial Wii motion control pales in comparison to what a Move controller can do, but there's a reason Sony and MS have been scrambling to bring a comparable option to the market for the last 2+ years, and it's because Nintendo nailed what the mainstream was looking for in a game console, which was ease of use and a social aspect.

I think if you look at the 3 big console developers, there's no question that Nintendo has always been the company to innovate while the other two just keep iterating on the same mechanics. Like the Wii, hate the Wii, whatever, it came first, and it spurred an entire market into existence.

 

[warcrow]

WTF has Nintendo doing for the past 5 years? Making and remaking mario and zelda games, no new original IPs from their First party studios have been anything close to successful.

Nothing close to successful? How about Nintendogs, Animal Crossing, Wii Fit, Picross 3D, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Party, Brain Age and Wii Play.

And of course there's not just "Pokemon, Mario and Zelda".

You're forgetting:
- Metroid
- Donkey Kong (Country Returns)
- Kid Icarus (Uprising)
- Kirby
- Advanced Wars
- Super Smash Bros
- Pikmin
- Fzero
- Layton

...and there is probably more too.

 

[darkxshade]

You can say that Nintendo is known for implementation, not innovation.